Discussing the Future of MAGA


I discussed the elections, the political impact of coronavirus, and the likely course of US-Russian relations under a Biden vs. Trump Presidency with Vile Varangian.

Twitter users Gaslight, Constantine, fashy zizek, Zero Schizo, and Calm European also took parts at various points in this 5 hour livestream.

Anatoly Karlin is a transhumanist interested in psychometrics, life extension, UBI, crypto/network states, X risks, and ushering in the Biosingularity.


Inventor of Idiot’s Limbo, the Katechon Hypothesis, and Elite Human Capital.


Apart from writing booksreviewstravel writing, and sundry blogging, I Tweet at @powerfultakes and run a Substack newsletter.


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  2. Supply and Demand says

    How about Tucker Carlson tries again in 2024 with actual MAGA instead of fake and gay MIGA? Looking forward to watching the stream Mr. Karlin.

  3. 2024? Tucker Carlson will have been memoryholed.

    You will only get colorful DeepFake news announcers on all channels chirping about the Great Bidenreich as Kamalaforces check your door to see whether you are taking the mandatory AstraDiversica HappyPills(tm) (now with added Anti-COVID-21 strenghener).


  4. Supply and Demand says

    I’m living in China at the moment. That’s why I voted for Joe instead of Zion Don.

  5. The Spirit of Enoch Powell says

    I’m living in China at the moment. That’s why I voted for Joe instead of Zion Don.

    Implying Biden isn’t just another Zionist shill

    US Jews contribute half of all donations to the Democratic Party


    Also, Tucker Carlson is literally a pressure valve which is why he is even allowed a show on Fox News, a channel owned by hardcore Zionist and crypto-Jew Rupert Murdoch.

  6. The Spirit of Enoch Powell says

    First time I’ve heard you speak Anatoly, didn’t expect your voice to be like that.

  7. Supply and Demand says

    Biden’s loyalties seem to change to whoever is paying him more. Hunter definitely knows where his bread gets buttered: East of the Vistula and West of the Bohai Bay.

    He was once a white segregationist, now the 3rd black President.

  8. The demographics will be terrible in 2024, the only plus side is the economic fallout of the shutdowns will be have to be dealt with by the Democrats, bailouts of NY and Illinois will be demanded. Short $, long gold. A contested election like this will be pure poison.

  9. Re: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/2020-election/donald-trumps-reelection-strategy-was-real-winner-last-night-171935

    Among other things, reference made to the vote counting in the 1960 Nixon-Kennedy election. Also reminded of the saying that Goldwater won in 1980.

  10. Philip Owen says

    Russia didn’t vote for Trump this time. Serves him right for not building up Putin last time?

  11. I think it’s the mic, it’s not that high-pitched

  12. E. Harding says

    In the predictions thread, I, like Karlin himself, appear to have been off by two states (but more electoral votes than Karlin, in a reverse of 2016, in which I was off by one more state, but less electoral votes than Karlin due to calling Florida correctly), four people were off by one state.

    Hispanics appear to have been chased into Trump’s arms by the BLM riots; even Ted Cruz and George W. Bush didn’t do nearly that well in the Rio Grande counties.

  13. This country is in deep crap. I don’t see an electoral solution to this…we are too far gone. This has been coming for decades.

  14. Kent Nationalist says

    Hispanics appear to have been chased into Trump’s arms by the BLM riots; even Ted Cruz and George W. Bush didn’t do nearly that well in the Rio Grande counties.

    Part of America’s unstoppable divergence into Pick-up truck race vs. Bugman race

  15. As I was writing last month that bipartisan politics in the USA, is one of the main cross-over entertainment industries. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/us-elections-2020-the-first-debate/#comment-4195991 Some parts are like wrestling, although its position in American resembles most football fanaticism, where the spectators increase their enjoyment by emotionally identifying themselves with their favourite teams.

    The current election is the most representative of the entertainment industry so far. It has all narrative “twists”, “comebacks” between the two teams – and they have managed to extend episodes of the game across multiple days.

    In terms of its purpose as entertainment (and it’s not controversial to notice that this is large part of its purpose in America) – it seems to be the most successful election.

  16. The future of the MAGA people is public shaming sessions, mandatory collective self-criticism and re-education camps.


  17. another anon says

    Now, what is your prediction about the Qanon movement? No Q drops since the elections, is the whole thing over?


    My take and my prediction is: Q will announce that Trump and Biden are best friends, good guys working together against the pedo conspiracy, and the elections were just plot to distract the pedophiles.
    Joe will sit in the White House, while Donald will go down to the tunnels and personally lead the final assault against the pedos.
    Trust the plan!


  18. The Wild Geese Howard says

    You will also need to renew your monthly, DNA-verified loyalty oath to BLM, comrade!

  19. According to this article in the Atlantic, people who have voted for Trump have cast a ballot for a sociopath.


    Why did they do such a horrible thing?

    Because according to the author they are probably like Trump: immature, narcissistic and unreasonable. Half of US of A adult population is not to be trusted. They are a continuous menace against the democratic process and the rule of law.

    I was only half joking about re-education in my comment above.

    If you have voted for Trump, do not tell it to anyone…