Open Thread 130

Because Japan is the only non-white country that reached a higher level of cultural development in the modern epoch (in the 20th century). So there is an unusual perspective for European observers, of perceiving a non-white country which doesn’t have a low modern cultural level.

We perceive that Japan is almost as advanced as a West European country, has a connoisseur culture, and portrays self-confidence about its uniqueness and idiosyncrasies.

Self confidence about cultural eccentricity, is probably correlating to being an island, and it’s similar to Great Britain in this aspect. Japan and England are the two countries where eccentricity is idealized, and these are possibly the two cultures which are romanticized most easily by the rest of the world.

In addition, Japan has aspects of connoisseur culture, which is similar to Italy (in visual culture and cuisine), and aspects of high quality engineering and manufacturing culture which resemble modern German culture (for example, in pianos, optics) .

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Our perceptions also transfer in a fetishistic way onto objects, and object fetishism is one of the easiest ways to see how people feel about countries. If you open your fridge and see it is full of a row of Asahi Super Dry bottles, somehow your fridge looks more attractive, than if you had bottles of Heineken.

I have an unopened bottle of Suntory whisky and my tendency is to leave the bottle unopened in kitchen as a visual decoration. On the other hand, I receive often bottles of Polish liquid like cherry vodka, and my unconscious tendency is to hide the Polish alcohol on the bottom of the cupboard. Here you can see where you brain is cargo culting about inanimate objects, based on whether you received positive or negative national stereotypes.

view Japan just a few decades ago

And these 1950s views, seem strange and dated when we see them now. It reminds me of reading a 1920s novel by Scott Fitzgerald, where a character in the novel is talking about they should hire a poor Swedish servant girl. (I was thinking “poor Swedish servant”? This concept of poor Swedish servants, sounds strange for modern ears, although not in 1920s USA).

In terms of Hollywood films, the last negative films about Japanese I’ve seen are “Bridge on the River Kwai” (1957) and “Breakfast at Tiffany’s” (1961).

“Breakfast at Tiffany’s” is ironic, because a film is beloved with Japanese women, who try to copy the clothing of Audrey Hepburn. Her character suffers under a rude Japanese peasant housemaster. But this peasant Japanese housemaster, doesn’t match to our modern stereotypes . Since 1980s perhaps, our stereotype that Japanese people are polite, wear clean suits, and will not be seen without a packet of Lucky Strike cigarettes.

“Bridge on the River Kwai” is almost a propaganda idealization of an English gentleman pretending to be criticism of him, and contrasts to this primitive Japanese peasant soldiers (who are claiming to be samurai). It’s like watching English gentleman stereotypes trying to defeat Japanese samurai stereotypes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdycEK_38Y.

The theory of TQM may have come from the US, but only in actually implementing it, could the Japanese discover how to practically use it to both quality and cost advantage.

I have worked in a wonderful TQM environment in my younger days–an amazing experience that would be a great benefit to everyone.

The Japanese had a huge advantage because they did not have to try to implement it in a “diverse” US environment.

The “dead wood” gets super-obvious very quickly when that type of teamwork is required.

In the US it becomes necessary to quietly create sub-groups (with no “diversity”) to deal with the very tough tasks.

Our team accomplished true miracles in its day–it finally died because the leaders moved on to other pursuits and were replaced by idiots. We worked around the clowns as best we could, but eventually they insisted on being in the room–and we were doomed.

I keep your powerful takes in a folder for posterity.

China have inherently appealing qualities

Probably China will start to seem more attractive to us, if/when it becomes an economically developed country. Political system has a role in its current lack of attraction, but the economics is likely more significant.

I will be labelled as a “barbaric materialist” to say this – but economic development level is one of the preconditions in the 21st century for successful “soft power”. As a case study for comparison, we might look at South Korea, which became a developed country, and subsequently their popular culture became more appealing to middle class youth around the world in the last decade.

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In this forum, people often don’t understand a distinction between GDP and GDP per capita. GDP refers to the size of an economy, while GDP per capita is result of dividing GDP by population. It’s the latter measurement which can roughly indicate economic development in a country.

China has a large GDP (due to large population), but the GDP per capita is still low (in the sense of being the same as lower-middle income level countries – e.g. Mexico).*

As China becomes more developed economically, then we will start to see more externally aspects of bourgeois culture. This is what Karlin has used the term to describe the extreme embourgeoisement in central Moscow – “Stuff White People Like”.

Modernization and industrialization at the lower level of economic development, provides more dystopian aspects, than in wealthy countries.

Reason the dystopian prefabricated housing in the Soviet Union of Khrushchev’s epoch onwards is less aesthetically attractive than the equivalent epoch buildings in Switzerland, is not because of lack of taste – but because of what could be afforded in terms of architecture for mass housing in the middle income Soviet Union, compared to high income Switzerland.

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• China only recently climbed past Mexico in this measure. Except in some urban centres, you would not expect yet a lot of the embourgeoisement that would be attractive to European hipsters (“Stuff White People Like”, as Karlin describes this).

When/if China reaches to the Portugal level, then we might expect change in the demographic that their cultural production will be attractive to (even assuming no political changes). There has been already such a situation with South Korea’s culture.

https://i.imgur.com/JDaZKiW.jpg

You have an outmoded Marxist view about the communication here. It does not occur between rational corporeal entities. First there is no communication. Second the exchanges are parts of a sequence of concatenated texts. Each text has an emergent lyrical subject. The lyrical subjects are in search of intimacy. Since fucking somebody is not possible in the realm of textual existence fucking with somebody becomes the highest attainable form of intimacy. Text entities that delay the emergence of the lyrical subject are Turing test flunkees whether of AI or HI kind.

Mr. Doom, Ursula K. Le Guin’s The Dispossessed came to my mind. It is about you and your fantasy. A farewell by the western intelligentsia to the dream of just and equal world. It was 45 years ago.

Chinks put themselves on the level of Negros

Does not sound plausible based on my experience. I had four Chinese post-docs and one Chinese graduate student. Four out of these five were in the upper quartile of the people I had in the lab. All worked hard and behaved like normal people. One former post-doc is already an Assistant Professor in another University (in the US, as a rule, every step of your career is in a different place; in contrast to Europe, permanent positions in the US are exclusively at cemeteries), and two more have PI potential.

I also think you over-generalize about Negroes. My best tech was a black girl from Cameroon. In fact, I interviewed a black American guy for this position right before her. He certainly did not measure up. After her interview the choice was easy. The results showed that my choice was correct. She worked very hard (having two kids and a husband) and behaved absolutely normally. I hired her to manage our colony of genetically modified mice (genotype, set up necessary breeding pairs, separate litters, keep good records, alert me and others when desired genotypes are available, etc.), but within a month she came to me and said that it only takes about half of her time and she wants to do something in addition. After spending just a year and a half in my lab she earned authorship on three papers. Good thing is that not even the most deranged libtard could accuse me of racism. She was blacker than 95% of American blacks (she is a real African, not a hyphenated pretender). Our department had a black graduate student from Africa, and his PI was extremely happy with his performance and attitude. Your description of Negroes fits degenerate American blacks, not the normal ones. I believe that PC BS and freebies made them pathetic degenerates, not their race.

How to organize a petition to deny the vaccine to Sweden until the time countries that tried to reduce mortality get it first? Norway and Finland have 10 times lower mortality than Sweden. If Sweden did what Finland and Norway did 6000 Swedes would be still alive. Bud Sweden did not do it because it does not care for lives of its citizens. Sweden should not get vaccine until countries that care for the lives of their citizens get it first.

One way you can settle this. State your race.

Is your blood Indian or is it white?

Jared Taylor was born in Japan and speaks fluent Japanese. He wrote a book on Japan in the 80s.

I see “help wanted” and “now hiring” signs in most factories, retail stores and even some restaurants.

Indeed, traveling to Michigan from TN in August, I was surprised to see numerous “help wanted” and “now hiring” signs on restaurants and other establishments. My conclusion was that lugenpresse stories and “stats” on unemployment are just as false as everything else American MSM spread.

The help wanted signs are a feature of legacy Boomer management, most jobs of this type are usually applied online.

These businesses were also competing with government stimulus checks, and with newfangled work from home positions.

2. “Sher Singh posting”? I’m not on 15 lvl cope that whiteoid Desh with pop of my left nut matters..
The entire Balkans & Baltics together has less people than NY, who gives a fk??

New York State population 2019: 19.45 million
Balkans Population : 32 million

Wtf has their post-christian history been?

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/media/__sized__/report_images/Map_Balkans_1-crop-c0-5__0-5-1340×828-70.jpg

If they say so, I’m at the guard again!
No one can harm you Serb Republic!

If they call, I’m in the trenches again!
No one can harm you Serb Republic!

Nothing is hard for me!
For you the heart beats!

Whenever you need, call and your Hawks will be there!

You are the land of our dreams!
The land of Serb knights!
For you life is given!
May your name last for eternity!

Defend Republika Srpska!

The clock is ticking, show me that you are descendant of karoliner!

He’s had long enough to answer. His conspicuous refusal to do so is noted. The fact that he hasn’t posted anywhere else since the question was put to him doesn’t get him off the hook. Identity is taken very seriously on this site, and one has a responsibility to closely follow all threads in which one’s identity is in dispute.

Speaking of Chinese influence, I wonder if western countries would have applied lockdowns had China not previously done so.

Trump lost, Indian is going to be 3rd largest minority after Black/Mexi soon..

Can’t argue with that. You open the floodgates to these macacas and every Ranjeet, Sanjeet and Goop-tah is gonna want in.

The Great Hinundation.

Now, listen, don’t go getting all bent out of shape about anything I’ve said here. You’re an okay dude. Just because I ‘hate’ you doesn’t mean I hate you, see.

And besides, if there’s one good thing I can unreservedly say about India is that it offers the most favorable prospects of delivering a mass spanking to the minions of Mahound liable to occur this century; that one such act being sufficient to absolve your breed of a thousand aesthetic sins.

Are you not seeing the joke or are you really so serious and humourless?

Btw, DforDoom, did you enjoy the recent rendition of the national anthem in the Eora language by the Wallabies – even the white players – as much as I did?

The potential this offers for cost-free virtue-signalling is practically unlimited.

Question for the ex-USSR members here: Has membership in the Eurasian Economic Union by and large been beneficial for its various members?

Any native speaker of English will notice that its not my native language, but you were clearly implying that I take Thulean Friends identity too seriously, which means that you didnt detect that I was half-joking with my question making.

Therefore you are humourless!

And not just that, I suspect.

What’s the Eoran word for ka-ching?

Daniel, wtf bro? This barely coherent remark, which succeeded only in betraying a greater lack of reading comprehension than I initially estimated, somehow merited a LOL? Sheesh, that’s some slap in the face, coming from one of the sharper minds in these parts.

I’m not quite sure what to make of this Altan chap yet. I’ve only recently even bothered reading his posts, since when you see a username beginning with altan… there’s hardly much incentive to continue reading, combined with the fact that when he first came to my attention the war with hapless, friendless Armenians had just commenced, which further dampened my interest. Despite possible appearances to the contrary, it takes much more than a simple miscommunication to incur my ire.

Orthodoxy is too mystical, services last too long, you
have to stand or even prostrate yourself, etc

Its mysticism is one of its few strengths. (Its major strength being its role as an ethnic marker, although this isn’t strictly an ecclesiastical feature.) People want mystical. They can get their logical rules from the rest of their culture. Catholicism’s weakness is its pretense of having derived logically airtight rules for everything – which is fine if you control the cultural levers, but the moment it becomes possible to rationally scrutinize it, you’re quickly reduced to a laughing stock.

And you don’t have to stand the entire time. You can sit down when the priest goes behind the altar (whatever that room is called*), which he does quite a lot. The few Greek churches I’m familiar with have installed pews, and I’ve seen some people (not just the elderly) sit through an entire service.

*One of the graver weaknesses is surely that so many people are like me, exposed to church services from the very youngest, and yet as adults still fundamentally clueless about what is taking place – and believe it or not, there was a time when I even took it quite seriously. Also, very few people can understand what the hell is being chanted, besides the obvious phrases like “amen” and “God bless.” Then again, this used to occur regularly in the middle ages in catholic churches, where inadequately trained priests who couldn’t speak Latin would just make up words and the congregants were none the wiser.

Beyond not understanding the liturgy, people are even uncertain about such ritual basics as when to cross yourself during the service (and there is a lot of this). The priest himself performing the sign of the cross is an obvious cue, but otherwise it’s far from clear. I think after an “amen” is an appropriate time (I can’t remember, it’s been a while). Mostly though, people just follow-the-leader, who I think often just crosses himself because inspiration struck him, much the way baptists blurt out hallelujahs without apparent rhyme or reason.

I used to have fun seeing if I could “fake people out” by pretending to start crossing myself and getting onlookers to follow me, but then stop before I completed it (as in just reach my hand to my forehead and then abruptly stop) and see if they went on to complete it. This only worked during regular services, when the number of attendees was smaller. During Christmas and Easter it was too packed, and half the people were just there to socialize, so they’re weren’t paying enough attention to be able to catch them out with a faked cross.

You definitely have a strange way of “having fun”. You’re probably one of those individuals who likes to attend funerals, even for individuals that you’ve never known, because there might be an opportunity to attend a free memorial lunch after the burial.

Viktor Vekselberg Loses Swiss Sanctions Lawsuit

A commercial court in Zurich has backed Swiss private bank Julius Baer in its treatment of Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian investor who was put under sanctions by the U.S. in 2018. The bank had decided to freeze assets of the Russian investor in order to comply with the sanctions regime. The court has now decided that the bank was in its right to do so, according to a report by «Tages-Anzeiger» on Friday (behind paywall).

Vekselberg had demanded access to a securities depository account at the bank in a bid to sell some assets. He wanted to use the money to close a loan worth $160 million. The assets at Julius Baer were denominated in U.S. dollars and therefore subject to the sanctions regime. Julius Baer might have violated the sanctions had it given in to the demand of Vekselberg, the court said, adding that the bank not only had a right to do so, but a duty.

Its wonderful that USA does its very best in stopping of capital outflow from Russia and constantly encourages Russian oligarchs to invest in their own country. American leadership is the best friend for those who support protectionist policies in Russia!

It seems that the common sense logic itself is collapsing or disappearing during this era.

That’s an optimistic way of seeing things. There’s a pessimistic way of seeing things; that is as long as Russia uses US $ it is not free or immune from direct American interference in its politics and economy (Nord Stream II comes to mind). And then there is the realistic way of seeing things: Russia is integrated into the global economy and must abide by certain rules that are not decided in Moscow. The news this year are that these rules are probably not decided in Washington either. Americans can’t even decide the election outcome for themselves, the US of A are just a tool. Question is; who makes the rules?

Russian oligarchs need to band together and sue US government for anti-semitism and discrimination.

All those Vekselbergs, Rotenbergs, Abramoviches… they will have a case – US Treasury is pursuing Jewish people and their money with vigor not seen since 1930’s Germany.

You think I went to church for the sole (or main) reason to do that? Lol. I was a kid, dragged there by my father. Another good point that anon had about the Orthodox church is that the services definitely last too long. What’s a bored but curious kid supposed to do if not pay attention to what’s going on and try to figure out an explanation of how things work there and perhaps have a bit of fun at the same time, especially when the priest, who was a family friend and would visit our home almost weekly, never even tried to explain anything to me?

There was a time there when I was quite devout (around 11-12yo), and some people casually floated the idea of the priesthood for me (lol as if – I was very dutiful about keeping up appearances for the sake of my parents, which gave family friends the completely wrong impression of me), so it’s quite remarkable he never attempted to impart any religious instruction to me. That’s something Catholics do – that everyone does – vastly better than us.

Now, as for attending the funerals of complete strangers in order to score a free meal, I had no idea that was even a thing. Though now that you mention it, I vaguely recall seeing a documentary about it; or it may even have been the plot of a movie, not sure. It’s actually a pretty cool idea, definitely worth doing for the sheer thrill value (and may as well have the meal if it’s there – it’d be rude not to). I have an ex-girlfriend who’d be perfect as an accomplice. She would back me up seamlessly if I was bullshitting someone, and even make some unique contributions of her own. I reckon I could rekindle that old flame on the strength of this idea alone. Thanks!

You failed to address the crux of the matter.

If you don’t like Venezuela, we can take any other random country. Morocco, Turkey, Montenegro,… Their governments should stop wasting time and send helicopters to poor neighborhoods every morning to drop bags of freshly printed cash.

As a matter of fact, let’s imagine Russia. Mr Mishustin should issue a 50 million ruble check (I know that you said unlimited but let’s be careful with the initial batch) to every domestic household. Inflation and the value of the ruble may take a little hit but it doesn’t matter, GDP would go brrr…

Anyway, this is what I said from the beginning that I wanted to avoid: debating crackpot monetary policy. Thanks for the discussion though, the idea that the distribution of the stimulus packages has been suboptimal possibly has merit.

I think the debate over what is “Balkan” and what isn’t is a bit dumb and pointless imo. I also don’t really care whether Romania and/or Greece are considered as “Balkan” or not.

To me what’s more important is that the term “Balkan” is usually used in English language media to cover up anything good or positive about Serbia and Serbs, to pretend as if its some sort of universal regional phenomenon, while when anything bad or negative is about Serbia and Serbs, it is explicitly referred to as being of ethnic Serb origin.

The term “West Balkans” is even more ridiculously loaded because it implies that there is something Western about all the countries in the Balkans that exclude Greece, Bulgaria and Romania. Of course, the purpose of this is to legitimize and justify “Euro-Atlantic integration” of the part of the Balkans that is still not integrated or resisting (mostly Serbs and Serbia).

From what I understand, Balkan is a Turkish word/phrase although of which exact combination, I’m not sure. There’s also the Latin Haemus Mons which could perhaps be a more accurate or appropriate term. Still, anyone that uses “Haemus Mons” is usually some sort of ancient-Illyrian LARPer and it’s an excellent sign of a mentally unhinged and deranged person.

In all seriousness, I think that Thulean Friend could be telling the truth about himself. That is, if he meets at least three of the following criteria:
1.)an Indian donated an organ to him
2.)pulled him from a burning building
3.)rescued him from a desert island
4.)pushed him out of the way of a speeding car (perhaps, this is why he hates cars?)
5.)he looks like the Elephant Man and this endears him to his Indian girlfriend
6.)the Indians have developed a chip which they implant into people’s brains
7.)there is a new retrovirus out there that turns you into an Indian
8.)African migrants made a voodoo doll of him, and buried it in a jar of curry
9.)Indians have turned him into a Manchurian candidate to give Harris a promotion.

I was going to try to go for ten, but I can’t do it.

And on the other side, he could honestly say that he has Swedish blood, if he got a bone marrow transplant from a compatible Swede.

Damn. The burn could be felt from across the internet.

Happy to help:
10)He is a member of some strange Hindu sect, which has brainwashed him.

Even I thought about a week ago that he is a Swede, but why a Swede would speak so personally and emotionally about the founders and leftists of India?
A liberal or progressive Swede would feel a natural affinity towards the Indian left.

Only an utterly delusional idiot would claim that there arent smart Africans. Its just that their share/proportion of population is much smaller in comparison to Europeans and Asians.

African migrants to USA are normally high achieving folks, but no wonder, its just statistics, if you collect just the cream of the milk you will get just cream, duh!

Progressive Swede married to an Indian woman?

Is economic development a precondition for soft power, or are both expressions of an underlying dynamism?

As you note, China is not actually a wealthy country. Its just a huge country, and its rising from a very low base. China also benefits from a unique moment in history – all advanced economies offshored their manufacturing to China, creating a unique wealth creating situation that doesn’t necessarily speak to an underlying capacity for dynamic creativity.

In other words, the kind of creative dynamism that leads to both wealth and soft power, is not in evidence in China. There is a desperate effort on Unz to persuade us that China is a leading technology creator, but if this were true, it would be undeniable. No persuading would be required. There is some evidence it is beginning to move in that direction, as both you and TF note that China has become a top developer of some electronic music equipment etc. But this feels, as of now, more niche, and less characteristic.

I’m not saying the Chinese don’t have potential. As you know, I’m a huge admirer of ancient Chinese culture. But the heavy hand of the CCP may be preventing that potential from breaking through. It may be, that China simply can’t make the leap to dynamic creativity under the repressive CCP. China may have gone aa far as it can under the CCP.

After all, how can there be something cringeworthy in it simply reciting facts and expressing pride in them?

I thought I explained this with the Freddy Corleone reference. It’s not the facts themselves I take issue with, nor even the idea of taking some basic pride in them. It’s the idea of using them to pretend to be much greater or more important than you are. When you’re a primitive peasant backwater culture like Serbia, the very idea of grandiose self-importance is intrinsically pathetic.

I’ll grant that the extent of Serbian primitiveness may not have been quite evident to a Serbian patriot in 1918 – the kind of Serbian patriot who penned the song in question, let’s say – so I’ll make an allowance for patriots back in those days who felt this way. But the fact that this song was passed down to me, some three generations later, strongly suggests to me that Serbian patriotic attitudes changed very little in the intervening seventy years – when, by rights, they should have changed a great deal. And this was far from the only such song I heard growing up; songs like it were part of the air I breathed, though I’ve forgotten most of them. (One I remember – Ovo Je Srbija – not an old song, dating perhaps to the early 80s, is hauntingly beautiful and was one of my dad’s favorites. He’d get near teary-eyed listening to it.)

And yes, it is a fact that Serbia won in all those wars from 1912-1918

Yes, and singlehandedly too, in Serbian nationalist mythology. I grew up having virtually no idea of the role played by other, typically more important, contributors to those (and earlier) war efforts – efforts without which pipsqueak Serbia would have found herself stomped. That’s pretty amazing, when you think about it.

Still, I’m curious, who exactly where your ancestors?

Any Croats in your ancestry by chance?

Oh FFS, I wrote a big long effort post for you on this, and then apparently deleted the fucking thing attempting to insert a “MORE” tag.

No way am I rewriting all that again. Briefly: no Croat; some Greek and Vlach on mother’s side, all from Macedonia and Greece, and some Vlach on father’s side too, from Macedonia. Father’s side grandparents, great-grandparents (not sure) relocated to Macedonia long ago. Still have (had) family in Nis and Pristina, and in Greece from mother’s side. Grew up in nationalistic Serbian home.

We cracked the code – Thulean Friend is Yuri Bezmenov! Of course he would counter that Bezmenov has been dead for a while, but that’s exactly what he would want you to think! He is the undead Yuri Bezmenov.

🙂

I suspect that he is a progressive Swede, married

I was going to say “common law wife”, but I think “in an open relationship with an Indian girlfriend, who enjoys cucking him” would be more appropriate. That is, if he is a Swede.

Though, I, for one, think that his parents are still trying to find him a bride from the right jati.

Of course they’re a part of the Balkans, 100%. Not only geographically, but racially and culturally too. Balkans nations look the same, behave the same, mostly worship the same. If they were saner, there’d be a healthy movement towards a more unified Balkans identity. Sadly, sanity is in short supply there. In many ways, they are only geographically European. If they were an island, like Britain, say, I believe far fewer people would bother to attach the label “European” to them. It’s like the Caucasus. It’s quite a stretch, but if you were up to it, you could attempt to include them as European; but no one really bothers – not even lefties – because they’re so culturally repellent.

Maybe TF is a shared account between a genuine Sweede and his Indian wife.

All of the cringey Hindoo posts are from his wife?

The more China manages to compete in higher technology the more Westerners feel the need to claim that China can only steal technology and that they don’t have any ability to invent anything by themselves. Your posts exemplify this behavior.

Well my own opinion on TF is that he is a very light skinned Indian from a high Brahman caste.

And since Indians were the original Aryans this makes him basically a Swede.

As for blond hair, yes I agree. I still have hard-wired preference for people who look like me

I remember this comment. I assume he was fibbing, in order to tweak us all, but there are other possibilities:

1.)Dyes his hair
2.)has light brown hair, being a mischling and other Indians call him “blondie” in celebration of it.
3.)notice the punctuation between “yes I agree” and “I still have a hard-wired preference for people who look like me.”

Alright, I have worked it out of my system. I promise I will make no more posts about crypto-Indians – at least on this thread. Though, since I still have this box to fill:

It is perhaps a bit alarming that Dmitry, being keen-eyed, and of sharp memory, found that past damning comment that Polish Perspective made, revealing his true nature. (Though, I think even with the personality differences, they do not have the same textual fingerprint – I assume he was a different Indian.) Dmitry’s idea that they are the same person strikes me as eccentric. In fact, I should say, the idea that nobody ever leaves this blog, but is just re-incarnated as a new personality, is a very charming notion, or, at least, it would be, if only it weren’t based on Indian mythology.

Dmitry, it seems, thought he could throw off the scent by tossing one of his own off the sled! Or what would be the Indian equivalent? The elephant?

Dmitry is also Indian?

What do you think Blinky Bill is?

The only question is distribution – who gets it. Why should only the rich get free money?

Of course it is unjust–but policymakers actually have no choice.

If they gave all the free money to the poor, then the poor would spend it and the velocity of money would explode.

Then we would have off the charts inflation that would be impossible to hide.

(I think they are all stinking kleptocrats who deserve the guillotine–don’t get me wrong–but giving the money to the poor would blow up the economy very quickly–and no public policy type would intentionally go there unless their New Zealand dacha had already been secured.)

Deep down inside, we all have a little Indian inside of us, don’t we?

That’s the whole point though – we want the velocity of money to explode. If velocity of money increases we will not need to create as much debt to drive GDP growth which in turn will lower our debt to GDP ratios. So will inflation by the way.

And basic incomes can be easily throttled and manipulated via interest rates just like we regulate money supply from commercial banks currently.

So the odds of hyperinflation are remote. And moderate inflation will grow nominal GDP so we want that anyway to make debt loads more reasonable.

The way we do macroeconomic policy today is just dumb. In US alone we created $80 trillion of free money that is utilized highly inefficiently and we need dozens of $trillions more in the future just to keep afloat and we wouldnt need that if we got money velocity going again.

because they’re so culturally repellent.

I got the impression that your heritage is from the Balkans? Do you despise your own heritage? Can I ask why? Because you complain lot about the Balkans, but with my limited English I havent yet gotten anything substantial. Just that church was boring and theres lots of chauvinistic nationalism. But such is quite common among the cultures of Eurasia. I mean national fantasies and rivalries, old religious traditions that dont always make outwardly sense and so on.

I agree with you that they should unite, at least the Christian parts + Bosnia.

Yes because he uses “wh*toids”

https://youtu.be/XfR9iY5y94s?t=121

I agree that under current policies inflation is impossible because “average folks” don’t have the money to spend.

All I am saying is that if they suddenly had the money–they would spend it and spend it quickly–which would drive inflationary expectations.

Academic economists could (correctly) point out that such expectations are totally irrational–but people act on irrational beliefs–in fact all hyper-inflation scenarios are people acting on irrational beliefs.

Indians are not the original Aryans, but some northern Indians, like Punjabis and Dardic peoples are partially descended from them.

Hmm, if so, why was the West quite willing to recognize the technological achievements of the Japanese. European states were also quite competitive and hostile towards each other, but England was quite prepared to recognize the achievements of Germany and France, and vice versa.

The USA was also very willing to recognize the scientific breakthroughs of the Soviet Union, and was so threatened by them that it spurred massive educational reforms and government efforts to catch up at the highest level. There is no comparable sense of technological threat from China- instead, there is a sense that Chkna steals Westerm technology.

So, there isn’t a history of political competition leading to denying the technological achievements of hostile competitors. Rather, it hass frequently spurred internal reform. Secondly, the scientific community is generally intellectually more curious and broad minded than the average person, and leans left. They tend not to care about politics.

I submit that dynamic creativity cannot be achieved under a repressive regime like the CCP, which doesn’t permit the needed level of anarchism and free thought.

Under the CCP, China will become more powerful and wealthy, but will hit a wall. Which may be ok. Maybe the CCP was needed for a time to achieve that.

But I don’t expect China to become interesting until it becomes less repressive.

https://youtu.be/82akDxNihhU

Did you know that there was one Daurian or Manchurian noble family in the Russian empire? Gantimurov they were called.

https://scfh.ru/files/medialibrary/c53/c539a4868041b385b30d0346b52a8510.jpg
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B

Do you despise your own heritage? Can I ask why?

Not my “heritage” (if that’s taken to mean “ancestry”), but the cultural practices, the beliefs, the ‘ways of being,’ the customs, the common attitudes, and other things of that nature, I generally find it idiotic and stultifying; I grew tired of it a long time (I burned out during the Yugoslav wars) and have no patience for it today. Part of it, I guess, is also a reaction to the ways I was raised, to the things I taught were of importance but which I came to have a contemptuous disregard for.

Yet despite all that, in the diaspora, where I was born and raised, people of these ethnic backgrounds are my preferred company, especially when they’re as acculturated to western ways as I am. Just having the identity itself, without any other accoutrements, is enough for me. I also care very little about goings on in the balkans themselves, unlike Totally Anonymous, who appears to live and breath it.

Also, if I’m willing to be self-critical, it’s a mistake to interpret it as a sign of self-loathing. There’s a certain power in it. You develop the ability to see yourself more clearly, to understand the criticisms of others, to lose the instinct to become agitated when others criticize you. It’s a trick I indirectly learnt off the Anglos – though I’d never take it as far as those cucked out fools have.

I knw about the Berbers. There are even people who claim connections between Berber and Celtic languages. I did not know about the Georgians or the Southern Italians. The British stone circles are an odd number, 9, 11 or 13 being the most common with a larger isolated stone, called the Heel Stone to the North West. *Most isolated Menhirs/Maenhirs are Heel Staones which have lost their circles. Nearby will be a “hill fort”, probably used for sky burials like modern Farsees and, as you show, a tumulus; we use the word Barrow; to act as the final grave. The passage into the barrow is aligned with the sun at Midsummer. No surviving British Barrow is as magnificent as the one you show, although the Barrow at Newgrange in Ireland certainly is.

Reminds me of that English historian who popularised the stories about China inventing everything and was in a menage à trois with his English wife and Chinese student

Should have made it more clear that I was being sarcastic.

Some Indians who are as dark skinned as Mexicans see themselves as white people because relative to their darker kin, they are light skinned.

China has become a top developer of some electronic music equipment etc. But this feels, as of now, more niche, and less characteristic.

There are segments of China’s population, which will develop connoisseurship about aspects of culture. For example, classical music is popular in China, and by learning piano a proportion of the next generation will become connoisseurs about classical music.

For example, China is the now the second largest market for sales of pianos. (By comparison, in Russia piano sales are in very bad decline, despite that in Russia there is inherited one of the world’s most important traditions of piano pedagogy).

A strange thing is that the proportion of acoustic piano sales is higher in China, than the world average. Buying even the lowest entry range of Yamaha acoustic pianos, is expensive relative to China’s incomes. So this is counter-intuitive.

China’s piano market hits the right note for Yamaha

TOKYO — Yamaha, a major manufacturer of pianos, now sells more of the instruments in China than in its home market of Japan.

This reflects both China’s size and its growing enthusiasm for children’s music education. Yamaha’s instrument business in China, led by pianos, more than tripled over the decade ended in March. The country now accounts for 17% of Yamaha’s total instrument sales, up from just 5% 10 years ago..

Yamaha’s 30,000 yuan ($4,250) upright pianos make up about 15% of the instruments Yamaha sells in China. “The typical customer is a married couple in their 30s with a monthly income of a little over 10,000 yuan, who are buying the piano for children aged 3 to 5,” said Teruhiko Tsurumi, executive general manager of Yamaha’s musical instruments unit.

Many couples choose to have only one child despite the end of China’s one-child policy. This allows parents to splurge on their child’s education. A quarter of the pianos Yamaha sells overall are acoustic, but in China the figure is 40%..

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/China-s-piano-market-hits-the-right-note-for-Yamaha

Interesting.

China will be an interesting test case of whether a repressive society, with things like social credit and surveillance, can nurture creativity.

Intuitively, one would say no. Historically, the record says no.

But, it may be that China needed a period of social repression to get back on track after the ravages of the cultural revolution. The Chinese people, as I have argued elsewhere, are more chaotic, anarchich, individualistic, non-cooperative, unruly, and hard to rule than Westerners, which is precisely why China needs a very strong, authoritarian government on occasion to get the people in line, whereas more cooperative Westerners can be trusted with more freedom, and thus end up being more creative.

However, there are periods where China gets the balance between anarchy and authoritarian rule right, like during the highly creative and glorious Tang dynasty, when anarchic, free spirited Taoism nicely balanced out the rigid rules of Confucius.

So the repressive CCP may just be a transitional phase, a necessary evil to be discarded later. Chinese creativity may yet get a chance to make interesting and impressive contributions to world culture.

However, I don’t think it will be the kind of Promethean creativity that has characterized the West. As much as China seems to have broken with its past and modeled itself on Enlightenment ideals, it seems not to have absorbed the Promethean spirit, and instead borrowed legalistic, bureaucratic elements of Western culture that mirror elements in its own history.

Cultures tend to repeat themselves, with a twist. I think China will have a New Tang Dynasty, with a strong anarchic, naturalistic, Taoist flavor, in a modern technological setting. China will humanize technology and show how it can integrate with nature, rather than dominate it, as the West has conceived of technology.

This will be a new theme in world culture, a departure from the Western theme of technology dominating nature and being in a fight with nature. The next step in the evolution of workd culture, which, as so often, will actually be a step back from the excesses of the domination of nature paradigm, which has led to the destruction of sl much beauty.

I think too this will be a world trend. Already, apparently, cities in Europe are restricting technology for humanistic reasons, like beauty and livability, as TF points put, whereas a few decades ago the idea that we should control technology, rather than following wherever it may lead, would have been unthinkable.

However, for the time being, China is still boring, and it will take decades till it fulfills its promise, which is a recreation of the beautiful things of its past in modern setting, like all cultures.

Wait a minute. Is Thorfinneson and Thulean Friend the same guy?

Both claim to be white but are obsessed with India.

I honestly thought Dmitry was jewish. If he is Indian, it also explains it.

It’s not the facts themselves I take issue with, nor even the idea of taking some basic pride in them. It’s the idea of using them to pretend to be much greater or more important than you are.

The original video (can’t seem to find it anymore) of that song I watched actually showed you how the size of Serbia grew slowly but gradually, and how it indeed became larger and larger, both in territorial size and population through successful military victories in wars.

That is, Principality of Serbia 1817, 1833. Kingdom of Serbia 1878, 1912, 1913. Kingdom of Serbia 1918 and then Kingdom of Yugoslavia 1918.

Perhaps maybe I could post images of these respective territorial sizes, but if you know any history and bothered to read at least a little, I’m sure you’ll understand what I mean and roughly what sort of map changes I’m talking.

Still, it’s clear that Serbia and Serbs absolutely can be larger and more important then they really are, but internal flaws in the character of Serbs aside, the reason this isn’t the case is because they’re being constantly artificially and relentlessly pushed down by large and powerful foreign empires.

When you’re a primitive peasant backwater culture like Serbia, the very idea of grandiose self-importance is intrinsically pathetic.

That’s an arrogant and condescending modernist-Liberal attitude to have. The assumption that there is something “primitive” or “backward” about “peasant culture” is very obnoxious and factually problematic.

It actually looks very good and even better with each passing day compared to how well this “advanced” and “progressive” Western Liberal-Multicultural Zionist empire and system is literally in a spiral of downward decay with all its pathologies, desperately trying to maintain its power and relevance through all sorts of malevolent and dirty tricks.

But the fact that this song was passed down to me, some three generations later, strongly suggests to me that Serbian patriotic attitudes changed very little in the intervening seventy years – when, by rights, they should have changed a great deal.

Why should they have changed a great deal though?

Traditions aren’t really traditions at all if they can be easily changed.

The fact that they didn’t is actually a very good thing because it suggests that despite being the fodder for forming a demented anti-Serb Yugoslav project, Serbs managed to survive yet another round or two of denationalization, de-ethnicization and deracination efforts in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and Communist SFR Yugoslavia. In fact, given all the disasters and catastrophes Serbs and Serbia have undergone in the 20th century, it’s actually a miracle that they even exist at all today, which may not have been the case if things had gone a little bit differently in WW1, WW2 or even the 1990’s.

And this was far from the only such song I heard growing up; songs like it were part of the air I breathed, though I’ve forgotten most of them.

Seems like I have more in common with your dad than you …

I grew up having virtually no idea of the role played by other, typically more important, contributors to those (and earlier) war efforts – efforts without which pipsqueak Serbia would have found herself stomped.

You could have just read a bit of history if you were truly interested, you know. Although I do understand that those were pre-internet days.

More importantly though, the thing about “pipsqueak Serbia” is that despite having a bunch of “reliable” Western allies, it did end up getting “stomped” but still somehow came out on top despite that in military terms, although not political ones (e.g. WW1 and Thessaloniki/Solun Front especially).

Oh FFS, I wrote a big long effort post for you on this, and then apparently deleted the fucking thing attempting to insert a “MORE” tag.

That’s why you should be a bit careful with, and maybe even save longer Unz Review comments, or be prepared to improvise fast and creatively when you edit your comment in the 5 minute time limit.

Briefly: no Croat; some Greek and Vlach on mother’s side, all from Macedonia and Greece, and some Vlach on father’s side too, from Macedonia. Father’s side grandparents, great-grandparents (not sure) relocated to Macedonia long ago. Still have (had) family in Nis and Pristina, and in Greece from mother’s side. Grew up in nationalistic Serbian home.

This tells us 2 interesting things.

First, some of your ancestors were possibly Greek Phanariotes, who are infamous among non-Greeks of the Balkans for their Jewy behavior in the times of the Ottoman Empire, and that some of your other ancestors or relatives in Macedonia (if you have any in North Macedonia currently) are maybe some sort of Monkeydonians LARPing as a real nation.

Much more importantly, this betrays just how much of a Former Serb you really are. An interesting phenomenon, although also truly despicable and disgusting. You’re not actually very different from Milo Djukanovic (he literally changed from being a Serb to becoming a “non-Serb Montenegrin” in the middle of his political career), all the so-called “non-Serb Montenegrins”, Bosnian Muslims and Croats who all hysterically and pathologically hate Serbs because, even though they’ll never consciously admit it, they are all too well aware of the fact that their ancestors were all Serbs, that they are pathetic traitors, fake trash and worthless scum (although some of them were coerced into being non-Serbs to be fair). Some of them have managed to come around to acknowledging and embracing their true ancestry and heritage, but most are still far from that.

Of course, I’m sure that if Serbs and Serbia were more successful, more prosperous and had fared differently in the 1990’s (especially by using the missed window of opportunity to decisively win the war in Bosnia in the 2nd half of 1993), then you would likely feel very differently. Your complex of being a Former Serb would not exist if Serbia and Serbs were more successful, prosperous and well-off.

You’d be better off to either go all the way to disconnect yourself from any ties with your roots and assimilate into whatever you fancy, or just return to your roots and repent from you pathetic “Однарођивање”.

Teenage boy “nationalism and patriotism” is cheesy and a sensible man will quickly grow out of it. However, once a man starts to go to work, they can easily be lost in the ultimate nihilism of a corporate job where one is used and then discarded at any time driven by shareholder demands expected of management. Similarly, what is the point of many other jobs. However, when raising a family, patriotism matters a lot because you have to impart an identity on your kingdom. And there is nothing really arbitrary about ethnicity. It is deep-seated and in most cases ancient. In fact, studies of kin selection and in-group bias suggest it is also based in nature. Being able to relate to millions of people you have never meet should not seen as somehow tiresome but amazing that a thread, sometimes obvious but sometimes tenuous, runs through such a large group of seemingly unconnected people.

AK’s opinions on a lot of topics must be understood in the context of him being mostly Russian. I think he has valuable things to say on some issues but I discount a lot of what he opines on in his neighbourhood.

I was reading the archive lately from 2014. The initial posts on Ukraine were just deranged and obviously driven by emotional fervor. To his credit, he later revised his views and came to a more sensible conclusion. But that took a long while and it doesn’t excuse the initial nonsense he pushed early on.

I view his comments on China possibly taking in a large amount of Central Asians in similar veins: more wishful thinking – he wishes for China to offload Russia – than grounded in a hard-nosed reading of China’s internal dynamics.

Once you accept this defect of his, you can move past it and still read some of his takes on other topics which can be worthwhile.

You’re correct that Russia’s oil & gas rents are much more worth than EU gibs. I’ve remarked that Russia’s poverty cannot be explained away by concepts like ‘resource curse’. Australia is highly dependent on commodities.

Russians may be less competent than Anglos. But even if you accept that, they are definitely punching way below where they could. Russia should be doing far better than barely above Mexico, which is what they are doing now. Clearly this is wounding the pride of Russian nationalists, that should be self-explanatory.

That said, AK’s argument is actually better than he realises. It’s too bad he is too incompetent to make it. Namely: the big benefit of the EU isn’t the gibs. It’s trade. You see, the EU’s main strength isn’t just a free-trade area. It’s a common single market.

The difference between a free trade and single market may not be obvious but this article does a good job explaining it. If Russia had been part of the single market, I think Russia and Poland would be a lot closer. Russia would still likely be poorer, though, due to lower human capital. Gibs are nowhere near as impactful as Russia’s oil and gas rents, as you rightly point out. But trade is the great equaliser and the single market is the supercharger of this.

I also care very little about goings on in the balkans themselves, unlike Totally Anonymous, who appears to live and breath it.

Even though I’m diaspora like you, don’t exaggerate the extent to which I care.

For instance, I don’t care about “black chronicles” news like who committed what violent crime where, or tabloid news about how e.g. in Novi Sad some guys got drunk and brutally beat each other up over gambling money several weeks ago, etc.

I care about the important stuff which really matters. The geopolitics of the Balkans and the wellbeing of ethnic Serbs. All of that is unfortunately bound to deteriorate very rapidly when what looks like a Joe Biden presidency comes to power. Especially the wellbeing and existence of Republika Srpska and Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina as I’ve highlighted earlier in this thread (also likely efforts to reinstate Milo Djukanovic and the DPS in Montenegro, more pressure over Kosovo, etc).

Even if another round of catastrophes and disasters are going to hit Serbs in the next few years and decades to come (after all, Serbs just barely survived ethnocide/cultural genocide in Montenegro in 2020, this year), I still think and feel it’s worth it to hold and defend my heritage, ancestry and ethnicity no matter what. It’s clearly worth quite a lot if it’s something that’s so viciously attacked, demonized, and targeted for destruction across the centuries, particularly the last one, and the struggle is still ongoing. There’s also the fact that West European and Anglo-American countries in general have very bleak future prospects for their founding populations making it a bizarre choice to want to be in that category, especially considering my origins.

Then again, as Dragos Kalajic has said (Not sure if you can read and understand Cyrillic),

“Ако хоћете да будете истински Срби – морате знати да то веома скупо кошта а ништа не доноси, изузев мука, патњи и страдања. Ако за то нисте способни – боље је да се повучете са овог најопаснијег места у Евроазији и да одете у бели свет, да не сметате осталима својим гласним страховањима и жалопојкама. Морате знати да ће рајински менталитет, ванредно способан да се увек и свуда докопа власти и одржи на њој, свако ваше сврставање на страну свог народа награђивати поругама, срамоћењем и прогонима. Ваш избор мора бити слободан од сваке бриге за исход. Једнако морате бити слободни од жудње за победом, као и од страха спрам пораза. Ваша одлука мора бити чиста и неусловљива. Само тако ћете бити достојни српске улоге и традиције.”

Clearly being a Serb is not for everyone and that’s fine if that’s the case for you. To a degree, even I’m also a diaspora LARPer as well.

So it seems there are now three main strands.

1. Those who think I’m an Indian LARPer.
2. Those who think I’m a Polish LARPer.
3. Those who think that I am Swedish but either have an Indian wife or mixed Indian blood.

Neither of these are correct, but what’s amazing to me is how much energy and effort is put into this pointless quest. Is this the reason why lurid conspiracy theories are so popular? The truth is just too mundane and boring? I also don’t see myself as particularly interesting, which makes this long debate even more bizarre. If I wanted this to go on, I’d keep you guessing but I’ve already categorically stated the truth.

Or maybe they think that since their deals are government-t0-government, having a good-looking website for the foreign public to see is not an important project

This is the reason.

I imagine that military purchasers are probably not googling “jets to buy.” From what I’ve known, there’s usually some project to “revamp website” but it gets pushed to the wayside and never gets done for years at least.

It seems that people here find his (ecological nationalist) views on other topics to be controversial

I reject nationalism. I used consider myself to be an ecological feminist, but I now realise that feminism is too reactionary as it merely seeks equality and that too through iterative methods of education, which has had dubious successess in the past.

I now favour a gradual cull of manoids to about ~20% of the population which would greatly reduce human conflict. This cull would be done at the womb through sex-selective embryos. Rightoids claim that some races are more responsible for violence than others: this is true (but complicated by reasons of poverty and SES background). What they don’t tell you is that manoids are responsible for the vast supermajority of violence in all societies.

This is likely a genetic impulse which cannot be ‘educated’ away. A 80/20 society would have some amount of problems, but the historical record seems clear that polygamy is easier for women to accept/understand than for manoids. Once genetic engineering gets advanced enough, we could go back to a 50/50 ratio but only on account of an iron-clad guarantee that manoids’ violent impulses be purged from their DNA. Absent this, a 80/20 ratio would become a necessity for the foreseeable future.

Balkan Slavs should be grateful to the Greek Phanariotes because many of them essentially funded the early part of the Greek Revolution of 1821.

LOL

Are you for real?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanariots

Greek Phanariotes were literally Ottoman favorites that they put in the place of Serb Patriarchs because they led the Serb people into rebellions and exiles from South Serbia, that is, North-Albania, Vardar Macedonia and Kosovo-Metohija. The Serbian Orthodox Church in the Ottoman Empire from the 17th to 19th centuries was practically controlled by Greek Phanariotes because Serb Patriarchs were considered too disobedient and unreliable to Ottoman authorities. Same for other Orthodox Churches (e.g. Bulgarian and maybe Romanian) I believe. Similar thing applies to controlling trade and commerce throughout much of the Ottoman Balkans …

Regarding the Greek Revolution, I don’t think you’d want me to ask where the hell where the Greeks and Phanariotes during the 1st and 2nd Serbian Uprisings (in reality way more Serb rebellions against the Ottomans, but these two are commonly referred to as such) from 1804-1813 and 1815-1817. Especially when the Ottoman Empire crushed the 1st Serbian Uprising from 1813-1815 by deliberately killing 100,000 Serbs (rebel soldiers, but mostly civilians, sacked and burned villages, impalement on pikes, beheadings, and many other unpleasant things) for their attempt at rebellion, with hundreds of thousands of Serbs having fled across the Danube to the Habsburg Empire yet again. This would ultimately trigger Hadzi Prodan’s failed revolt, but more importantly, the somewhat successful 2nd Serbian Uprising after it.

Greeks were actually a hindrance to “Balkan Slavs” (Serbs and Bulgarians really, the Muslim ones were obviously fanatically pro-Ottoman) until 1821. Not to mention the failed Phanariote led revolutions/rebellions in Wallachia/Romania in 1821. There’s also the effort by Phanariotes to try and reform the Ottoman Empire to be an equal Greek-Turkish/Orthodox-Muslim union, although I’m not sure what went on with that besides the fact that nothing came of it for certain reasons I don’t really know.

Still, I think it’s historically noteworthy that Karadjordje Petrovic himself was closely tied to the Greek Revolutionary society Filiki Eteria, and in hindsight would’ve been better off going to fight with the Greeks in 1821 instead of returning to the Principality of Serbia after 1817, only to be executed by Milos Obrenovic in order to appease and successfully negotiate with the Ottoman Empire for slow, but gradual improvements and upgrades in the autonomy and status of the Principality of Serbia (possible mostly because of Russian support combined with Milos Obrenovic’s skilled diplomacy).

Aaronb similarly switched his views compared to what they were a few years ago.

I am not convinced. He kept his Judaism and Zionism in check but at some point he no longer could take all the anti-Jewish abuse going on here, particularly from Ron Unz so he went with his Jewish supremacist gaslighting trolling as an act of defiance that only on the surface was at odds with his previous gaslighting trolling extolling oriental culture and philosophy. Then after some hiatus necessitated by the outpour of hostility towards him and after an alleged trip to China he became a big China skeptic and began to use the arguments from the IQists’ that he used to deride that China was lacking creativity and so on. But his MO is the same: gaslighting that there is something better than you and your white European and American culture that is doomed.

Here is Ron Unz’s recent and from year ago take:

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/chinese-gdp-in-2050-the-debate/#comment-4300426
One thing I’ve noticed recently is that the fanatically pro-Israel Jewish-activists seem to have become fiercely anti-Chinese, as exemplified in the foolish remarks by “Lot” and “AaronB” on this thread.

https://www.unz.com/article/should-we-compete-with-china-can-we/?showcomments#comment-3510557
Historically, activist-types like (((AaronB)) have spent all their time and effort harshly critiquing white Gentile society. But since that traditional target has now largely been destroyed and the Han Chinese are doing so well these days, the latter have naturally become the new target.

However, since the Chinese weren’t idiotic enough to allow (((AaronB))) and his (((friends))) to gain control over their media and financial systems, I doubt they really have much to worry about…although the foolish Hongkongers have not been so lucky…

I must admit that I am impressed with AaronB. I am really amazed that creatures like him exist. I do not think he is trolling as an assignment. No, this is his nature and his way he relates and communicates. He is hostile to the traditional European culture. He is proud that it has been conquered and Judaized. And he takes pleasure from observing confusion, squirming, impotence and futility among the WNs whom he knows are traditional enemy of his people.

China claims coronavirus may have started in AUSTRALIA and travelled to Wuhan’s wet market via frozen steak exports
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9024311/China-claims-coronavirus-started-AUSTRALIA.html

China’s 14 grievances with Australia

1. ‘Incessant wanton interference in China’s Xinjiang, Hong Kong and Taiwan affairs’

2. ‘Siding with the US’ anti-China campaign and spreading misinformation’

3. ‘Thinly veiled allegations against China on cyber attacks without any evidence’

4. ‘An unfriendly or antagonistic report on China by media’

5. Providing funding to ‘anti-China think tank for spreading untrue reports’

6. ‘Foreign interference legislation’

7. ‘Foreign investment decisions’

8. ‘Banning Huawei technologies and ZTE from the 5G network’

9. ‘Politicisation and stigmatisation of the normal exchanges and coorperation between China and Australia’

10. Making statements ‘on the South China Sea to the United Nations’

11. ‘Outrageous condemnation of the governing party of China by MPs and racist attacks against Chinese or Asian people’

12. ‘The early drawn search and reckless seizure of Chinese journalists’ homes and properties’

13. Calls for an independent inquiry into Covid-19

14. ‘Legislation to scrutinise agreements with a foreign government’

I’m a Taoist, quasi-anarchist, and naturalist. I dont like authoritarian systems, whether they are Chinese, White gentile, or Jewish. If Jewish authoritarianism was extolled on this site, as Chinese is, I would criticize it harshly.

On this site, there is a truly sinister and blind promotion of Chinese authoritarianism, which I fight, and a shameful sycophancy towards numbers and size, and an attempt to exploit discontent with the fact that developed economies have hit a natural wall by trying to promote a return to the serf-like conditions of developing economies as an improvement, instead of finally doing the right thing and distributing the benefits of automation fairly among all sectors of society and not just the rich. This cynical ploy by millionaires like Ron is lapped up by low IQ alt right types, who are taught to believe that Chinese elites ruthlessly exploiting their serfs in factories while new billionaires are created daily and inequality soares is “nationalism” and “caring for their people” .

And please note – I do not use the IQist argument that Chinese are not creative, but say Chinese authoritarianism is suppressing the innate creativity of the Chinese.

As a Taoist, I am also hostile to excessive technology and excessive rationalism, whether they are found in Chinese society or White gentile society or Jewish society. I have criticized Jewish rationalism and legalism on this site, and expressed sympathy for mysticism.

I have supported certain strands of Westerm culture, notably Romanticism and French humanism (so called) as found in writers like Montaigne and the skeptical tradition of the French moralistes. I have also expressed enthusiastic admiration for the Greek Pyrhhonians. I have also expressed admiration for European art and architecture. I have also expressed qualified admiration for Catholicism and Orthodoxy, while noting their Manichean tendencies.

I have opposed the Enlightenment, scientism, and positivism. As a Taoist, I oppose the Promethean impulse as based on a mistake, and the manichean philosophy that underlies Christianity. At the same time, I’ve admitted it has led to the unsurpassed glory of European history.

My view is too nuanced and dialectical for you to understand, because you are a Manichean thinker who does not see gray but only good and evil. I even say the CCP may have a positive role to play in China’s development, as much as I think ultimately it must be overcome ultimately.

But Manichean thinkers are constitutionally incapable of understanding dialectical thinkers. So I leave you to the consolations of your conspiracy theories, such as they are.

You really are trying too hard, Cholas didnt conquer anything in Southeast Asia, but they made Srivijaya weaker, which later helped the rise of young Muslim Malay sultanates.

Also the Southeast Asia was already thoroughly culturally Indianized, all lands of Southeast except Northern Vietnam, had Indian derived scripts, dances, rudimentary caste system, revered Ramayana and Mahabharata, were religiously Buddhist or Hindu, or mix of both, even the far flung Philippines were culturally under a strong Indian influence. No offence towards Chinese, but Chinese have historically lacked cultural soft power, only those areas which couldnt import their culture elsewhere, imported culture from China, or those lands which were conquered by the China. So Japan, Korea and Northern Vietnam were only areas 500 years ago that were culturally sinified and outside of direct Chinese rule, even South-Central Vietnam ruled by Champas was thoroughly Indianized and Sanskritized society, with a caste system and Hinduism.
Even Mongols have hugely absorbed Indian culture, but very little of Chinese, I dont know why things are so? Maybe because the Chinese writing system was much more complicated than the syllable based Indic ones?

Malay Peninsula – Buddhist majority
Sumatra – Buddhist majority, with a large Hindu minority
Borneo – Hindu majority
Java – maybe slight Hindu majority, with a large Buddhist minority
Siam- Buddhist majority
Burma – Buddhist majority
Cambodia, in old times southern Vietnam or Cochinchina was part of Cambodia – Hindu majority
Champa – Hindu majority
Philippines – mixed, maybe a Hindu majority
Even Yunnan in Southeast China was a mix of Indian and Chinese culture before their conquest by the Ming
Tibet – their culture is practically a continuation of Medieval Indian Buddhist society, before the Islamic invasions

Okay Manchus derived some of their cultural practices from three sources, from Mongols, from their native traditions and from the Chinese, still their emperors were followers of Tibetan Buddhism, though some politicized revisionists claim that they were only Buddhists for political reasons, if it was so then its quite strange that Kangxi and Qianlong, the greatest emperors of Qing, wrote thousands of copies of Buddhist sutras, didnt demand prostration from high lamas, which is quite verboten in traditional chinese concept of emperor as the highest on earth and Qianglong even bowed or made prostrations to his guru the Lama Rolpay Dorje in private ceremonies! I think that Kangxi also bowed to the lama Zanabazar, but about that Im not 100% sure.

But Chinese had a higher state of technological development, at least during the Song, Ming and Qing,, maybe even during the Tang, they were a great source of inventions and innovations.

Therefore people should not say that one is substantially better than another, for one has been more preoccupied with the momentary or conventional problems and another more with the existential problems.

Though he who has humility, or is humble towards the truth and id eager to learn, is always superior! Which is something that progressives and квасной патриотs dont have.

Ps. Shaivism was the preferred form of Hinduism in Southeast Asia, which is understandable, after all they are closest to the Buddhism among the Hindu sects or faiths….

Also, supposedly (((I))) am deconstructing traditional White gentile society, yet the things I oppose most strongly are the Enlightenment, scientism, and positivism, which are modern reactions against tradition, and which are precisely the acid that dissolved traditional White gentile society.

While I oppose these trends wholeheartedly, I have expressed qualified admiration for Christianity, and frequently use Jesus to illustrate values I admire, while opposing primarily the manichean element in Christianity. I have also praised traditional art.

When it comes to China, I am precisely promoting a return to its traditional Taoist culture, and oppose the ways it has adopted the above mentioned trends from the West. So how am (((I))) trying to deconstruct the traditional culture of China?

Your scheme is incoherent and makes no sense.

no more respect.

Have you ever dealt with Anglo whites?
Do you believe enlightenment liberalism is universal & objective?

I never had any respect for you, you’re a white larper acting as if you’re an authority Dharma.
Imagine, a gora buddha giving advice on Kshatra

You’re fundamentally, in a conflict of interest..
Don’t act as if your white skin being attacked isn’t the reason you find it “bullshit”

The languages of the UN are 4/6 European + Arabic/Chinese

White supremacy shapes the world, and takes it away from seeing Maya as an illusion.
Its defeat will lead to Good things, you’re either anti-White or anti-Dharma||

I know you won’t understand what I mean by “White” or anything else, since ESL.

Next time, don’t take the bait. 🙂

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

Mongols were traditionally classified as Kshatriyas in Buddhist texts

Shameful mistake from me, some travelling Indian monks categorised people of steppes as members of Kshatriya class, meaning Sakas, Mongols etc. Its not like there is Buddhist scriptures which claim so.
But Mughal is the Persian name for the Mongols, and I very much believe that Mughals were more of Kshatriya.

Here is the couple portraits of Babur the founder of Mughal Empire, who still had quite much Mongol blood, before Mughals mixed with the Indians.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Emperor_babur.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Babur_and_Humayun.jpg/340px-Babur_and_Humayun.jpg

But Ha haa there is a Jain text, Sanskrit Hammīra-Mahākāvya, where the Mongolian warrior Mahimashahi, is the embodiment of the warrior’s duty, and he serves as an example for others on how to become Rajput. He fights with the Rajputs against the Muslim Turks and even burns wives in Jauhar. So it seems that ancient Rajputs acknowledged Mongols as Kshatriyas!

No one is disputing the Kshyatriyaness of the Rajputs, those guys are the very epitome of being of a Kshatriya.

That is a unusual interpretation of history.

The Phanariotes were not Ottoman favourites but very clever. There was never any chance Serb patriarchs were to be appointed as the grand prize for the Ottomans was the Roman empire (Byzantium) – even what was left it. And the people who controlled ecclesiastical organ of that empire were the Romioi (Greeks). Therefore, the obvious choice were the Greek patriarchs. Serb rebellions played no role (it is more accurate to call them localised revolts) as there were many Greek revolts too but that did not stop the Ottomans appointing Greek prelates. The fact that Greek patriarchs controlled the Slavic churches should be admired for the cleverness of the Phanariotes. Unfortunately, the Greek mistake was not converting most of those Slavs fully to Hellenic culture. The job was only partially completed with their conversion to Chalcedonian Orthodoxy.

The Serbian uprisings were simply localised revolts and not national in character, and the Serbs (whom I admire) were not able to exploit the international situation as cleverly as the Greeks a few years later. For example, the Greeks based their Revolution on Enlightenment values to appeal to the young men agitating all over Europe i.e. as soon as they largely cleared the Peloponese of the Ottoman scourge, they created a constitution, senate, executive and a kind of parliament which made them respectable in the eyes of Europeans. This did not happen in the Serbian case. However, they also sidelined the more radical Jacobin Revolutionaries that scared the conservative powers such as Britain and Russia. The Greeks also had an advantage in exploiting the growing Philhellenism of western Europeans. This was a tool that was never available to the Serbs.

The effort by Phanariotes to try and reform the Ottoman Empire to be an equal Greek-Turkish/Orthodox-Muslim union was really only a minority movement and never gained much favour from the leaders of the Revolution.

Please do not take the above as slight on Serbs. Greeks and Serbs and have long history of fighting the same enemies and have a strong mutual appreciation. However, the Greeks have generally been better at reading the external situation (although not always like in 1919-1922) and they used to have the additional tool of Philhellenism at their disposal. Given most of Europe’s youth is now enthralled with Afro-Islamic culture and knowledge of the classics means Public Enemy and Afrika Bambaataa rather than Thucydides of Plato then this tool is now useless.

Oof, the rabid nationalism of small nations, I’ve heard enough of my own variants of this, it’s all so tiresome.
Eventually ordinary people get so sick of what feels like omnipresent and played-up fanaticism it allows traitors like Pashinyan to (briefly) look almost attractive in comparison. If anyone cares, the bastard still hasn’t resigned, if anyone was wondering, although more scandals and leaks are coming out from his cabinet everyday.

Possibly a strategic mistake/error in hindsight, among a few others Serbs made in the 1st Serbian Uprising.

My bad.

Forgot to add these two things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C4%8Dko's_Peace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Serbian_Alliance_of_1807

Oof, the rabid nationalism of small nations, I’ve heard enough of my own variants of this, it’s all so tiresome.

lol. Armenian lecturing others about small nation nationalism.

Eventually ordinary people get so sick of what feels like omnipresent and played-up fanaticism it allows traitors like Pashinyan to (briefly) look almost attractive in comparison.

Well that’s why “ordinary people” get what they deserve at the end of the day. Their national enemies eventually come after them, attack them, take their land, commit a whole bunch of crimes and atrocities against their nation, and force them out from their living space.

If anyone cares, the bastard still hasn’t resigned, if anyone was wondering, although more scandals and leaks are coming out from his cabinet everyday.

I decided to follow internal Armenian politics from what seems to be a good English language Armenian source (I actually think it’s so good that ideally there would be a Serb equivalent, especially the spirit, refinement and nuance with which they write).

It seems like I’ve underestimated just how bad Nikol Pashinyan is for Armenians and Armenia (it makes Serbia’s internal politics under Vucic look good):

https://thearmenite.com/2020/11/globalist-liberal-armenians-and-nikol-pashinyan/

https://thearmenite.com/2020/11/who-comes-next-armenia-next-leader/

https://thearmenite.com/2020/11/an-unequal-relationship-armenia-and-russia/

https://thearmenite.com/2020/12/prioritizing-stability-and-unity-armenia-alen-zamanyan/

I think a description from the Turkish Daily Sabah (yes, I bothered to read them a bit because it serves as a good reflection of Turko-Muslim opinion, especially interesting is everything they write to do with Israel), about Nikol Pashinyan’s Armenia, is that “Armenia is working against its own existence”.

Those goyishe kops don’t appreciate your supple Semitic intellect, and that which they do not understand, they lash out in anger against.

Of course it is unjust–but policymakers actually have no choice.

If they gave all the free money to the poor, then the poor would spend it and the velocity of money would explode.

Then we would have off the charts inflation that would be impossible to hide.

I don’t have a very firm opinion on this, but some people might be unaware that the issue is too low inflation, and has been since 2008. The stated goal of the cheap money policies is to accelerate inflation. So giving some money to the poor would actually make some sense.

https://qz.com/566050/people-who-like-pseudo-profound-quotes-are-not-so-smart-says-science/

Those more receptive to bullshit are less reflective, lower in cognitive ability (i.e., verbal and fluid intelligence, numeracy), are more prone to ontological confusions and conspiratorial ideation, are more likely to hold religious and paranormal beliefs, and are more likely to endorse complementary and alternative medicine.

Either intentionally or otherwise, you have a fondness for promoting less effective things that would almost certainly lead directly to worse lives for those involved here, while claiming that it is the “true nature of things.” Its really not an uncommon manipulation tactic, and it shouldn’t be surprising that you keep getting called on it.

If you need a study to validate your narrow mindedness, then do what makes you happy.

Please realize, too, that “effectiveness” is not actually a value – it presupposes a value. My values are quite different than yours, so what effectively promotes my values is not what effectively promotes your values.

The idea that “effectiveness” can substitute for values and be worshipped on its own, is one of the weirder ideas to have emerged in modernity. A strange God indeed.

It is based, of course, on the mistake that all humans share all values and the same vision of the good life, and the only question, then, is why some societies better achieve the values of modern technological society, which humans universally desire, it is assumed. The question becomes merely one of technique, and societies which fail to achieve the full modern vision, are judged incapable, not indifferent.

It is beyond the scope of modernity, to self-reflect – meta-reflect, if you will – and question its assumption that its values are universally shared. To be fair, this blind cultural narcissism lies at the heart of all universalizing systems.

Finally, if people want to “call me out”, they are welcome- I enjoy being showed where I am wrong. But they have an obligation to construct a minimally coherent critique. Utu failed in that.

Srivijaya’s official religion was Buddhist, not Hindu, which made them weaker (no offence). They had Hindu elements within them, but this was not state policy.

Nonsense Buddhist societies are not less or more aggressive than Hindu ones. Not in the old times, or in modern times, actually Hindus are often more tolerant towards their Muslims minorities than Buddhists are.

Secondly, even many ‘Hindu’ traditions were amalgations of local tribal customs. If you ever visit India, you can see some of these similarities in places like Assam where there are shades of Hinduism mixed with a lot vernacular traditions among adivasis and others. All of this meant a weaker core.

I mostly agree on this, still the culture of the elites in the Southeast Asia was highly Indianized, and its not like Cholas themselves were free from local influences that predated Hinduism, there was much less of Sankritization than in neighbouring lands, anyone who has travelled in Southern India knows that the local Hinduism is quite peculiar and different from the Hinduism of North and Central India. They even have lots of gods that are just worshipped in the south and many strange local cults, so again situation is more similar to Assam, especially when speaking of Tamils, their culture and religion is quite indigenous, even Keralites have lost much of their Dravidian culture in comparison.

It is important to underline that what passed for ‘Hinduism’ in SEA wasn’t the real deal and often a syncretic mix compared to back home. Furthermore, this cultural influence was not as strong as you assume, especially if you went further inland.

So Hindudharma is flexible like Buddhadharma with the local traditions, if you dont know this then you probably are not an Indian.

So I dont at all agree with this point that limited Sanskritization or Indianization of society made them weaker.

Tamils had their ancient literature and religious traditions from the Sangam period, which had independent and separate development from the Vedic culture, later Chola period was synthesis of traditional Tamil culture with the northern more Vedic influences. Southeast Asia had undergone a slow cultural Indianization from the beginning of the western calendar, lands like Burma probably even before that. Half or more of the words in the Malay and Indonesian language are derived from Sanskrit, I am not sure about Tamil but I think it may have as many loanwords from Sanskrit or less, but not more.

Dravidian states still couldnt beat small invading Muslim armies, the true liberators of India were foremostly Marathas and then the Sikhs, and both are from the Indo-Aryan stock. But I have sympathy for Dravidians, Buddhism endured in their lands much, much longer than in the north and two out of the five major classical Tamil epics were written by Tamil Buddhists.

Also both Buddhism and Hindudharma are as weak or strong before the Islam, Siamese and Arakanese didnt have problems like the Malays, who were politically very fragmented and decentralised, maybe one reason among many why mobile religion like Islam suited for Malays.

Buddhists and Hindus are brothers, real brothers, I dont know how these strange internet Indians think, but in India relations between Hindus and Buddhists are universally amicable. There is genuine solidarity between our faiths, which sadly is not possible with the universalistic Abrahamic faiths.

Thanks for your link, I will read it later.

Reddit can be so frustrating–in some sub-reddits there may be one hundred idiots for each expert.

It is particularly irritating when the true experts get downvoted by the idiots.

But–I agree that the few experts can be totally amazing–they have taught me more about some of my favorite hobbies than I could have learned anywhere else.

I completely agree with you. I, too, think that you used to be an ecological feminist, but that now you have become more radical. I also think that now you support the culling of male embryos to achieve an 80/20 female/male ratio.

How could the public be expected to have a good judgment on the specs of a military item, which are likely partly classified even in a well designed public advertisement?

In the garbage, I see a rose.
In the rose, I see the garbage.
Everything is in transformation.
Even permanence is impermanent.

In summation, you can give all of your money here so you can transform into your perfect rose-garbage form:

https://www.patreon.com/akarlin

Don’t be ridiculous.

You are just an anonymous internet character. No one really cares about you or anyone else here that is also anonymous.

The reason this is a point of discussion is because of how bad Indian trolls are. No other group is as aggressive or cringey as Indians.

So all over the internet people are constantly trying to separate legitimate posters from Indian trolls and their many sock puppets.

Thanks India!

Beautiful!

What they don’t tell you is that manoids are responsible for the vast supermajority of violence in all societies.

Despite being only 77% of the population

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/BRmJdzBsCixN5JQ99MMhk7ZdCew=/1484×0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/G2EFTRECGNGAZGHFUHCJORKHII.png

Sex-havers commit 100% of rape.

I honestly thought Dmitry was jewish. If he is Indian, it also explains it.

You don’t need these hypotheses. He/she/it is just a libtard. Libtards always destroy the countries where they gain traction: just look at the US “democrats” or EU cucks.

This incidentally is also proof that Thulean Friend is actually Indian because:

• “Thule” was referred to by Helena Blavatsky, a mystic with contact to the Secret Masters beneath the Earth, which eventually produced contact with the Indian “World Teacher” Jiddu Krishnamurti who is said to have provided secret teachings only to the elected individuals of the world(likely Indians).

• It is known that through these telepathic journeys that the Theosophical Society often used pseudonyms, and the “farthest North” can also be understood as the “Deepest Underground,” which is a reference to Vril, the people of Hollow Earth. “Thule” is “farthest North”, and therefore Thulean reveals himself as a “friend” of the “farthest North” of “Vril.”

• The Vril are actually the “Coming Race”, who have long practiced their arts in secret and were defeated only by the principles of the stars that have led to our Evolian fallen age of Kali Yuga(Dark Age). Evola has said that it is the principle of femininity to serve, and in order to become who we truly are, ergo servants, we must become more female.

• We further know this is true because the Vedas have spoken of space travel, but this is to be understood as astral travels into the Inner Universe of humanity and the lost knowledge of the Ages aided by powerful all-natural plant-based gluten-free mystic tools.

• With their return, they will hold sway and we have to prepare for them by arranging our society in a properly aesthetic and ordered way so that we can be more easily reprocessed into maximally efficient food partners. By this, we can transform into a greater being of order(after digestion in their guts).

• Indians are cannibal aliens, or their henchmen.

Give up your flesh.

Your knowledge of western esoterica is commendable, though such knowledge is quite pointless when there are better established and more authentic philosophical and religious traditions to guide us.

Though their believes are somewhat odd, the Theosophists are genuinely nice people, very comfy, Ive often had dealings with them and I have always enjoyed their company.

That said, Hungary won more Oscars for best foreign movies than Poland (two vs. one, though one of the Hungarian Oscars was won by a Holocaust movie, so some might disregard it)

That was a Jewish film (Son of Saul), not a Hungarian one (although to be honest I did quite enjoy the director’s next film set during the AH period).

I am afraid to say that Polish cinema is vastly superior because of Kieslowski (to a lesser extent Wajda). But then I find Bela Tarr unwatchable

Last major Dharmic kingdom to fall in Afghanistan was by the way Hindu, they had lots of Buddhist inhabitants but the royalty was Hindu. Kabul Shahis or Hindu Shahis they were called, they ruled the lands of Kabulistan and Gandhara till the beginning of the 11th century, before that mleccha and icchantika Mahmud of Ghazni destroyed them and we lost our holy land of Oddiyana/Urgyen!

https://historypak.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/hindu-shahi.jpg

Strange that their Hinduism didnt help them?

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/K525RY/shingerdar-stupa-swat-pakistan-K525RY.jpg

In his heart of hearts, even Brahma knows the creation of the Indian race was a mistake.

Abrahamic colonisation has been the greatest geopolitical crime of the last two thousand years

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Islamic conquests have been terrible and led to much uglification and cruelty (in this way, Islam is the Communism of pre-modern times). The Islamification of Egypt, Anatolia, Persia, Central Asia, India and Indonesia has been a very sad process. But Christianity has done a great service by replacing the demon worship of the cruel Aztecs and overall despite exceptions has been a positive force.

You are against imperialism but at the same time claim to be a libertarian and presumably also support mass immigration into White countries of ethnic kinsmen?

A flag for a reunified China-Taiwan by combining elements of their current flags together.

https://i.redd.it/7dxltc2a5lf51.png

• Oh, come on. Just because we all hate the Germans doesn’t mean we have to like the Swedes.

• The Swedes are alright.

• Well, they hate you.

• We don’t hate anybody!

• ‘We don’t hate anybody.’ Well, you should! Makes life more fun.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY

A fellow Daily Stormer reader I see.

Given the huge amounts of smears and Hinduhobia in the Western press

This is surely proof that you are a Hindu?

Gobi is between Mongolia and China and was not obstacle for Xiongnu, Xianbei, Rourans, Turkic Khaganate, Mongols etc.

Hinduism disappeared from Southeast Asia, except couple pockets like Bali and small Champa minority in Vietnam.
Mongols converted to Buddhism after the Chingghis Khaan. So Hindudharma and Buddhadharma are doing quite equally.

Yes I didnt read your article, I dont know about genetics, but if you have seen and been with Punjabis and Tamils, they literally differ phenotypically as much as night and day. Not just the skin colour, but bone structure and facial characteristics. I think that I have read that Punjabis are closer to Afghanis and Iranians than they are to Tamils, you know one of those genetic distance charts. Sometimes man needs to trust his gut instinct.

The epitome of Kshatra is Khalsa||

The two marks of a man are Kesh and Shastar – you have neither||

As far as who’s “white” I see you as some provincial rube, and you’re paternally Rus xD

Don’t try to understand things above your station||

I’m calling you a bitch, because you are..
Nothing to do with blood, you should know this much about Sikhi||

Songbird, if it has power we want to take it.
Take u’re white fragility elsewhere||

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

https://www.instagram.com/p/B70BnjRF54p/

Actually Khyber pass, Northwest frontier and Waziristan are easily defendable in comparison to that what Chinese needed to deal with. Its always been puzzling to me that Indians had natural fortification in Hindukush and how badly they utilised it. Actually Gobi isnt even between China and Mongolia, but between the Northern Mongolia and Inner Mongolia, Inner Mongolia is prime land for sheep grazing and pasturing, so again the Chinese frontier was harder to defend, think about it, thousands of kilometres steppe frontier!

You Bagdad example is low quality trolling effort, three of the four Mongol Khanates converted to Islam, and its not like Iran and Iraq endured for hundred years under a non muslim rule.

I have been noticing among Chinese nationalists, a distinctive debating style.

Basically, mock, and pose as superior. Strike a pose, act as if you’re already superior, and offer little of substance or argument.

Its easy to see this as the tactics of the unintelligent and insecure, and they are that, but I think they are something much more significant than that.

The lack of interest in intelligent argument, and the resort to attack, is the behavior of those who want to win rather than understand.

Logical debate presupposes a potential willingness to admit defeat, if you are proved wrong. It presupposes a willingness to submit to objective rules. A disdain for argument, and a resort to mockery, indicates an unwillingness to submit to any rule. A disdain for logical argument also indicates a disinterest in objective reality, and a desire to impose a subjective vision.

It is the tactic of those who no longer wish to understand or see, but only to force. Everyone knows that logical argument does not persuade, and is merely a pastime of intellectuals. Nietzsche described logic as the tactic of the weak.

People interested in power, do not stoop to logic. They strike a pose. They act “as if” they are already in the superior position. They mock.

Intelligence is the weapon of the weak. Those who are after power use stupidity. Its been said power makes stupid, but stupidity may be the intelligence of power; that is to say, being stupid, power is actually being intelligent.

Logical debate presupposes a potential willingness to admit defeat, if you are proved wrong. It presupposes a willingness to submit to objective rules.

You’ll get less mockery the day that you actually practice any of those.

Oh no, you’re just a conspiracy theorist!

Sorry, sorry, sorry, I thought I was talking to someone of a different calibre altogether 🙂 My apologies, and I shall bow out at this juncture.

Thanks for the conversation, though.

When exactly did he claim that?

Also, extremely off-topic, but I want to respond to a post that you made here (specifically post #37):

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/what-should-russia-do-in-belarus/#comment-4097570

Stephen Cohen offers a very tendentious interpretation of Ukraine’s referendums and reveals himself to be either mistaken about a very fundamental thing (doubtful) or dishonest (more likely).

I don’t think that Cohen is consciously being dishonest here.

There was nothing “incongruous” about the two referenda. The first one in March represented a huge break from the USSR by asking if people wanted Ukraine to be sovereign. The questions were:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_sovereignty_referendum

” Do you consider necessary the preservation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which the rights and freedom of an individual of any nationality will be fully guaranteed? ” 71% voted Yes.

The second question was “Do you agree that Ukraine should be part of a Union of Soviet Sovereign States on the basis on the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine?” 82% voted Yes.

Declaration of State Sovereignty was de facto independence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine

“The document decreed that Ukrainian SSR laws took precedence over the laws of the USSR, and declared that the Ukrainian SSR would maintain its own army and its own national bank with the power to introduce its own currency.[2] The declaration also proclaimed that the republic has intent to become in a future “a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs,”

So 82% of Ukrainians voted to have a state whose laws were supreme on Ukrainian territory, that had its own currency, and its own army that would not be in an alliance with the army of Russia. The USSR would be transformed into something like the EU, but with no NATO, and with no Euro.

Cohen twists this around to mean they simply voted to keep the USSR and then claims that somehow this doesn’t match the result of the independence referendum a few months later.

Formal independence itself wasn’t an option on that March referendum. Nationalists were ecstatic that 82% of Ukrainians voted for sovereignty (own laws, own army, own central bank leading to own money). It’s a rather cavalier attitude towards the truth, to claim this means they voted to keep the USSR. When independence was made an option only a few months later, it got over 90% of the vote.

If independence was allegedly so popular in Ukraine in March 1991, then why exactly was it not put on the ballot in Ukraine right then and there? And I don’t just mean in ex-Austrian Ukraine, but throughout all of Ukraine.

For that matter, if independence was allegedly so popular in Ukraine in March 1991, why not simply have Ukraine refuse to participate in the March 1991 Soviet referendum at all like the Baltic states, Moldova, Georgia, and Armenia apparently did?

For that matter, if the sovereignty package for Ukraine was allegedly so good in March 1991, why exactly was there such vehement opposition to this package in Galicia and only tepid and lukewarm support for this package in Volhynia during this time? You can’t say that “Oh, Galicians also had independence on the ballot in March 1991” because that referendum–being localized to Galicia–was non-binding; thus, why not also have Galicians vote for Ukrainian sovereignty in March 1991 in the referendum that was actually binding? Also, in any case, Volhynians did not even have any non-binding referendum on independence in March 1991, and yet their support for this allegedly great Ukrainian sovereignty package was still significantly less in March 1991 than in the other, more pro-Russian parts of Ukraine.

Finally, I find it interesting that Ukrainians wanted to remain part of an economic union with the other USSR countries in March 1991 as opposed to, say, joining the European Union during this time. Why exactly was this the case?

Personally, I’m willing to have a more nuanced view on this topic: Specifically, I acknowledge that it’s possible that when Ukrainians voted for sovereignty in March 1991, some or even many of them might not have actually known what exactly the Ukrainian Parliament’s previous sovereignty resolution actually stated. (This Ukrainian sovereignty resolution wasn’t actually reproduced in full on the ballot in this referendum, was it?) I also acknowledge that the reason that a full independence referendum was not held in all of Ukraine in March 1991 might have been because such a referendum might have been perceived as being too risky back then. Finally, I acknowledge that different Ukrainians might have had different views about what exactly they voted for when they voted in favor of independence in December 1991. I think that Ukrainians’ opinions on independence in December 1991 would have been clearer had the text of this referendum explicitly stated that a Yes vote would result in full independence for Ukraine and in a complete break between Ukraine and the other ex-USSR countries. Likewise, I think that Ukrainians’ opinions on sovereignty in March 1991 would have been clearer had the text of the Ukrainian Parliament’s previous sovereignty resolution actually been on the referendum ballot in full so that everyone in this referendum could actually read this Ukrainian sovereignty resolution’s text in its entirety before they actually voted in the March 1991 Ukrainian referendum on Ukrainian sovereignty.

A Short, Unpozzed History of World

‘Mr Belloc objects to the Outline of History’ is not this, however it is a very funny response to HG Wells.

Well I don’t know, are we talking buffet?

It’s always sad when a non-Islamic place falls to Islam. It just becomes uglier and worse. Persia, Central Asia, Constantinople. So much beauty lost. It’s like Communism.

An eminent Japanese statesman of the 19th century, when surveying the wealth of the West and the prospects for Japan, remarked that japan would never become as wealthy, because they were too happy and content.

He was a wise man who saw deep into the springs of human motivation. He was also a mistaken wise man. Japan became both unhappy and wealthy.

In light of this remark, its not surprising that today’s Japanese, living during the stagnation of Japan, report themselves the happiest and most content generation since perhaps the encounter with the West. Nicknamed the “Satori generation” after the flash of Zen enlightenment, they have no ambition or desires, and are perfectly happy without them.

I often joke that if the Chinese truly want to become creative, they should eliminate the widespread availability of easy sex with prostitutes. The resulting sexual tension will lead to frustration, sublimation, then creativity.

The West, as we know, is the society of the Great Dissatisfaction. Just as the surest to make society liberal is to make it safe and prosperous, the surest way to engineer creativity is to make people dissatisfied. Take away their pleasures and make them feel inadequate. Make them unhappy.

Of course, here I am talking about Promethean creativity, that aims to transcend the human condition, not what might be called Dionysian creativity, which aims to embellish and beautify life, and is born not from lack, but exuberance.

Up until the pandemic, it usually did mean a buffet. That’s what we did when my mom passed away. Most people can find something that they like at a buffet. I’m thinking that perhaps this wouldn’t be enough to entice you to show up at a funeral of somebody that you never knew? I guess it all depends on how hungry you might be? 🙂

The Irish have always had interesting wakes for their dearly departed. This is one of the funniest movies of all time, guaranteed to please:

https://youtu.be/6Rd4Xk0jBwU

Joke: What’ the difference between an Irish wake and an Irish wedding?

Answer: One less drunk.

The people didn’t choose the questions that were on the ballots. They only voted for what they could. And they voted for the statement that provided de facto independence.

So, who chose the questions?

I don’t know about the other republics but Ukraine was still run by old Communist elites, who bent to popular pressure but didn’t break.

Yes, and the Ukrainian people–other than Galicians–elected those elites in free and fair elections in 1990, no?

Because with full independence on the ballot, this was seen as the better choice.

Sure, full independence was the better choice, but again, the referendum on full independence was non-binding due to it only being limited to Galicia. So, why not also vote Yes in the binding referendum on (alleged) de facto independence–you know, the one that actually mattered?

Of course you can. Unless you think Galicians wanted to both preserve the USSR as it had always been (that is, reject the sovereignty referendum,) and be independent, they voted for what they wanted most, regardless of binding status. So they ignored de facto independence (sovereignty) and voted for de jure independence. Ukrainian nationalists were generally ecstatic about the 82% pro-sovereignty vote. It was really twisting things to describe this as a pro-USSR vote as Cohen did.

Actually, I would argue that a Yes vote on full independence and a No vote on de facto independence would indeed produce the paradoxical result of both voting for full independence and voting to preserve the USSR as it already was.

And also, in any case, why did the nationalistic Volhynians (who didn’t have a full independence option on the ballot) vote to keep the USSR as it already was to a much greater extent than the more pro-Russian parts of Ukraine did?

Very doubtful. Sovereignty was a huge deal in Ukraine at the time and everyone knew that it meant local laws would be supreme, and local Ukrainian army (no more Ukrainians being sent to Afghanistan or wherever on Moscow’s orders). These people weren’t Americans reading the ballot 30 years later. They were living through it.

Interesting interpretation. So, you reject the possibility that some or even many Ukrainians could have voted for de facto independence in March 1991 and for full independence in December 1991 as a bargaining chip to extract greater concessions from the center (Moscow)?

(Interestingly enough, this bargaining chip argument has also been proposed elsewhere. For instance, Ayesha Jalal argues that Muhammad Ali Jinnah might not have actually been serious in his demand for Pakistan and instead wanted to use this demand as a bargaining chip to get more concessions for Indian Muslims from the Indian center. I’ll let you decide just how much strength her arguments actually have.)

Independence didn’t result in a full break, there was the Commonwealth of Independent States. But what else would independence mean if not full independence?

The Commonwealth of Independent States was largely symbolic, no–equivalent to the British Commonwealth? Yes, Russia tried to turn it into something much more than that through deeper integration, but Ukraine and possibly some other countries always vetoed these proposals. And in any case didn’t Ukraine refuse to ratify the CIS Charter or something like that?

But anyway, what I was actually thinking of here was declaring independence but then using independence as a way of extracting concessions from the center (Moscow) in exchange for a new union. Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan (but not Kazakhstan) also declared their secession from the Soviet Union between August and October 1991, but–unlike Ukraine–were nevertheless willing to negotiate in favor of a renewed union in some form all of the way up to December 1991, no?

Aside from involuntary spread of infectious disease, Spanish impact on the New World (it’s deliberate impact) was on balance very positive.

Modern scholars will say without the Spanish incursion there’d be no colonialism or African slavery.
Basically, that these incursions led to the growth of global white supremacy; basically, not only are they negative but any positive comments about them or pride would result in camps||

C u there, 🙂

The sad fact is that the US economy is 70% consumption, against an OECD average of 60%. We don’t invest in future productivity; we borrow and we consume. That is America’s problem, and Trump did nothing to correct it. Someone needs to tell Americans that there’s a difference between winning and feeling good while we’re losing. If America wants to remain the world’s preeminent power, it needs to teach high school students Calculus in 10th grade and subsidize engineering majors instead of resentment studies. It needs a tax system that encourages US tech companies to make hardware as well as software. And it needs a lot of qualified immigrants from China and India to build new industries while we wait for the long-term impact of education reforms

Prof. Bates replied: “Sorry… given the declining IQ of the American population due to dysgenetic behavior of large parts of the American population and the failure of our schools to educate the young to produce the necessary skillset to pull it off, any thought of trying to repeat what Reagan was able to do is very, very unlikely. The odds of being able to reform our education system are as unlikely [as] someone winning [the lottery] Powerball – heck no, winning 10 Powerballs. Why so low? Because of the political interests that make the public education system the clusterf*** it is. Also, China unlike the Soviet Union is wholly integrated into the global economic system and is working at the same level as we are. No, we f*** up in 1988-89 when [we] did not clamp down and cutting them off… Now we have the devil to pay… I prefer not to be ruled by them… so I think what Neumann recommends needs to be taken seriously if one wishes not to face the dismal future of slavery under a Chinese hegemonic despotism.”

Oy Vey!

Goldman about Trump and the failure to make America great again:

https://asiatimes.com/2020/12/donald-trump-the-wizard-of-wuz/

For your confused sake, Apollonian is more akin to the opposite of Dionysian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian

I tend to think myself as Apollonian.

it’s quite interesting that a majority of voters in Southern and Eastern Ukraine in 2002 would have opposed Ukrainian independence had they been allowed to vote again on this topic, as would have over one-third of voters in Central Ukraine

I’m surprised it was only 1/3 in Central Ukraine. Right after the 90s nightmare I’d suspect at least half of Central Ukrainians regretted independence. The difference between such people in Central Ukraine and the ones in the East is that the Central Ukrainians felt that it was too late to go back, that the only way forward was through and with Europe.

lol. Armenian lecturing others about small nation nationalism.

Of course, I’m intimately familiar with it, that was my entire point.

Patriotism in the sense that people are supporting their country and traditions – this can be a sign that the person has a “prosocial” attitude and supports his neighbours. It can also be a sign of prosocial conformism, which usually indicates a better citizen, and people should can complimented for this.*

Conversely, people who would hate their own country, without some legitimate reason or experience to do that – it’s often a sign of an antisocial person, in conflict with society (here is probably overrepresented orientation among dissidents that obsessively criticize their home country – and why dissidents can be sometimes selecting for a certain unpleasant type of people).

So, sure, a desire to support your country and its traditions, can be a sign of maturity.

But a teenage boy nationalism, where you project your identity imaginatively onto great battles (in reality, more like bloody hell) of the past – or start arguing about how your country’s dog, is stronger than another country’s dog. Here is usually something almost masturbatory, or in the most sympathetic interpretation, we might say: something like a “peter pan” desire to keep alive playground emotions and certain escapisms.

• Although here might be a cultural difference in different countries. Currently Russia, it’s prosocial to express a mild patriotism, while in anglosaxon cultures it can seem to be now the opposite, perhaps as a form of self-deprecating politeness (i.e. conformist attitude for English people seems to be that you should ostentatiously criticize England and its politics, when speaking to people from non-anglosaxon countries).

millions of people you have never meet should not seen as somehow tiresome but amazing that a thread, sometimes obvious but sometimes tenuous, runs through such a large group of seemingly unconnected people.

Our ancestors (if you count a little) before they were such tribes of humans, were nonhumans.

There is something more mystical about all of it, but rather in a disorientating way.

We descended from “Purgatorius”, who looked like below. This my glorious ancestor – some kind of squirrel.
https://i.imgur.com/dO8vumu.jpg

It reminds me of how Socrates (in Plato’s dialogue Theaetetus) was mocking peoples’ pride in their ancestors. Yet he didn’t even have access to the knowledge that our ancestors looked like a squirrel

“Hearing of enormous landed proprietors of ten thousand acres and more, our philosopher deems this to be a trifle, because he has been accustomed to think of the whole earth; and when they sing the praises of family, and say that someone is a gentleman because he can show seven generations of wealthy ancestors, he thinks that their sentiments only betray a dull and narrow vision in those who utter them, and who are not educated enough to look at the whole, nor to consider that every man has had thousands and ten thousands of progenitors, and among them have been rich and poor, kings and slaves, Hellenes and barbarians, innumerable.” https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Theaetetus

there is nothing really arbitrary

What feels more genuine, as opposed to something arbitrarily selected, is the place of your childhood, your classmates of your youth, the trees and landscapes in which you first encounter the world, and the society at a particular of history into which you soul land, and your consciousness has grown. Schopenhauer implied that we our soul has somehow chosen the time and place of our birth.

For people from Ancient Greek city states, these places could match perfectly to their national identity. However, in the modern world, if you live in a very large country, then these deeper emotions and connections to your home, match – to the homecity, and not to random parts of a country which might have a very different atmosphere.

My comments were aimed at the beginner market. No parent (unless they’re a pianist) is going to be able to reliably distinguish sound quality between, say, a P90 and a P515 (which is way beyond entry level). I know this because I was scouting around for an instrument this year, looking to begin playing again after a looong layoff, and I was pleasantly surprised by how good even entry level pianos sounded and felt.

Given that the two images I have linked don’t open, here is a link that allows to see the objects I have marveled about:

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/scotlandballs.htm

Not sure why cleverness in political and business dealings is synonymous with Jewishness. I would say it is simply function of operating a long-standing empire.

LOL

Never mind then.

With all due respect, there was no way the Ottoman would have handed over control of the Orthodox population to Serbian clerics.

It again seems like you’re misunderstanding me.

I never expected let alone cared about whether Serb clerics would have been able to control the affairs of Orthodox Christians in Greece, Anatolia, Middle East or anywhere else besides Serb ethnic areas. I don’t think any Serb really has a problem or cares about Greek clerics running Orthodox Churches in those other areas.

My problem was with the fact that Greek Phanariotes in the Ottoman Empire, were given/took over control, of the Serbian Orthodox Church and harmed the wellbeing of Serbs in the Ottoman Empire.

Of course. Also, the social structure of each nation differed. Greece had a very important merchant class that was spread across Europe and could link into sources of financial support. The Serbs were largely an agricultural people at that time.

It’s true that Serbs were an agricultural people, although Serbs were practically split between the Habsburg and Ottoman Empire for many centuries. That’s why I always get a bit annoyed whenever I hear “we were 500 years under the Turks” (it’s only partly true) because it doesn’t capture the much more complex and unpleasant reality of being a smaller nation stuck between two large and powerful empires for hundreds of years (always being in the middle of their wars where your towns and villages will be inevitably sacked and burned randomly and arbitrarily by both sides at some point or another). The Habsburg Empire was obviously usually better for Serbs because Habsburg Emperors granted them religious, ethnic, economic and other rights in return for Serbs giving useful and important service as frontiersmen and soldiers on the Habsburg Empire’s borders with the Ottoman Empire. A whole bunch of poison pills came from the Habsburg Empire though, in the form of violating Serb national rights during peace with the Ottomans (when the role of Serbs as vitally important frontiersmen became much less important), enforcing Roman Catholicism, Uniatism, serfdom to Croat-Magyar nobles, Magyarization, Croatization, Illyrianism/Yugoslavianism, and so on, although that is a different story. Still, at the start of the 19th century, a whole bunch of Serbs in the Habsburg Empire in the form of administrative, political and religious leaders, with obviously soldiers and supplies, served as a welcome form of help and contribution to the Serbian Uprisings and development of the Principality of Serbia.

I would not be so sure which side it is better to be on, Euro-Atlantic or Russia. I am not always happy with the EU, NATO and the Americans but do not underestimate Russia’s weakness to project power beyond its border. Just witness how they recently let Turks overunn an ancient Christian land.

Russia is mortally under siege and encircled by USA/NATO. It’s not good to have unrealistically high expectations of Russia because then one can get easily disillusioned.

Dark clouds are coming for the world and especially Russia (it will be no.1 on the firing line similar to how Iran/Middle East are right now under “maximum pressure”) in the likely imminent ascent of the Joe Biden presidency (and no, Biden Administration won’t do shit about Turkey, in fact Turkey is likely going to make itself very useful against Russia and Serbia in the next few years).

https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/dark-clouds-ahead/

https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/10/25/biden-bosnia-kosovo-serbia/

Expect “wonderful” things like Ukraine being actively armed and supported to reconquer the Donbass (to the delight of Ukrops like Mr Hack), efforts and possibly a war (if Serbs resist strongly enough) to eliminate Republika Srpska and annex Bosnia, then Serbia, into NATO to transform the Balkans into a 100% Islamic shithole inhospitable for Christians artificially enabled by USA/NATO, and so on …

My personal hopes actually rest more with China (not just it’s direct ties with Serbia, but the challenges it poses to the USA Empire globally) than with Russia at this point (Russia has done about everything it possibly can by now to help Serbia, and it can’t really do much more for the foreseeable future). The moment that China physically delivers it’s FK-3/KS-1 systems to Serbia (hopefully they’ll do this ASAP, ideally before 2oth/21st January), which are Chinese equivalents of Russian S-300’s/S-400’s, Serbia’s position will be good enough to resist anything Biden’s administration may try because no one with such weapons systems has ever been militarily invaded by the USA at all, let alone successfully (that’s why a whole bunch of other tactics are then necessary to pursue). Vucic can then pursue diplomacy, negotiations and engage in various kinds of symbolic cucking (if necessary, like the thing in Washington already, although it’s very uncertain what will actually happen with that) to simply drag through and allow Serbs and Serbia to survive this upcoming difficult and precarious time period. Of course, the worst case scenarios could always happen regardless, but a moderate-high level of geopolitical uncertainty is simply standard for Serbia and Serbs as a nation to endure …

(Not sure if you can read and understand Cyrillic),

Нигга плииз.

No time to reply to all this now, just noting that I’ve read your comments.

Given the huge amounts of smears and Hinduhobia in the Western press, I am deeply skeptical to believe all the lurid claims about native American religions at face value, which often serve as moral justifications for abrahamic colonisation.

We literally have archaeological towers of skulls from Mexico. European colonists and imperialists were fairly scrupulous in their recordings of the customs of the many natives they came across. Post-colonial efforts to create new narratives have proven false time and time again.

The Communist-era rulers.

And why exactly were they nice enough to allow an independence question in Galicia?

The 1990 elections have been accurately described as “semi-free.” They also occurred during the course of the Communists’ fall in popularity but before that fall had accelerated.

Interesting. In any case, though, they were still sufficiently free for local nationalists to win them in the Baltics, Moldova, Armenia, and Georgia, no?

1. Why do you call it alleged de facto independence? What do you think having one’s own army, own laws being supreme, own national bank mean?

Because the terms of the Ukrainian parliament’s sovereignty declaration would have been the negotiating position of the Ukrainian SSR at the start of negotiations with the center (Moscow) over a new union treaty. However, these terms would not have necessarily been the negotiating position of the Ukrainian SSR at the end of these negotiations; in other words, there might have needed to be some give and take in these negotiations–and of course Moscow could use the threat of force to try to get the Ukrainians to back away from some of their more extreme demands. It’s worth noting that when the 1991 August coup attempt occurred in Moscow, Kravchuk, unlike Yeltsin, does not actually appear to have actively opposed this coup–presumably knowing that Ukrainians would be unwilling to actively militarily fight the coup plotters in the event that the coup plotters would have succeeded in taking control of Moscow and the Russian SFSR.

2. Again, are you implying Galicians wanted to preserve the USSR in its current form by not voting for the binding question? That would be silly. With independence on the ballot, “binding” or not, mere de facto independence was rejected as not being good enough.

That I agree with! But please tell me how exactly the Soviet Union would have reacted if the Ukrainian SSR would have voted No to a new Union Treaty by a 51-49 margin, with Galician pro-independence voters providing the decisive margin for the No side? Was Ukraine going to get full independence right then and there even though only Galicia would have actually voted for this?

Do you have figures? I’d guess some small % of hardcore anti-Soviets would have boycotted rather than take part in any vote organized by a state that they despised, even a vote in favor of de facto independence.

Here you go:

https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/f/ukraine-referendum-on-the-preservation-of-the-ussr-1991.html

It’s too bad that we don’t have voter turnout percentages by oblast for the Ukrainian SSR for this referendum–at least not on that specific website.

I doubt many voters choose based on being bargaining chips, but I suppose it is possible that some of the local Communists who organized the election may have done so with that strategy in mind.

Do you think that most of the Muslims who supported Pakistan in the 1940s were likewise serious about separatism as opposed to preferring a stronger and better position for Muslims in a united India?

This 21st century version of the Yellow Terror is downright retarded. We’re scared of the Chinese because of 5G now? Tech companies are mostly parasites who produce junk geared towards frivolous consumption and rely on freebies from the military industrial complex. I wish the Chinese were taking over the tech industry. Sadly it will not happen.

The educational system is the leading cause of dysgenic breeding patterns. Society needs less investment in education.

Well, then it’s pretty consequential that we live in a society slowly going extinct with 1.5 TFR and a culture glorifying extinction and degeneracy.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg

I tend to think myself as Apollonian.

When ancient Hellenes made first Buddha statues more than 2000 years ago, they modelled them on the fashion of Apollon. Buddha after all is related to the solar deities and he uses his reason and will in taming of our chaotic reality. We are an Apollonian religion, even our mildly antinomian practices are designed so that we could gain control over malevolent and chaotic forces. We as religion go further and beyond than Nietzsche could ever even dream of. Yes he was correct, reality is empty of meaning, empty of values, but unlike nihilists and Nietzschean egoists, Buddha understood that we can impose our own will unto this emptiness and create the most perfect truth and impose that truth on reality, so that it would become true by our own deeds! That we can perfect our will and by perfecting our will we perfect the means to control the chaos that surrounds us.

To Ano4

Om Mani Padme Hum
Om Jewel In Lotus Hum
Om Bodhicitta In Sunyata Hum
Om Will/Means In Emptiness Hum

That Ano4 is the profound meaning of our blessed mantra! Though everything is empty, we the subjects, and the external objects, we can create the most perfect reality from emptiness, achieve the most highest truth, and because things are empty, there is no most highest truth and most perfect reality! A sky without limits, a space without constraints! Beyond, beyond, further beyond, beyond all! Forever and ever!

Although here might be a cultural difference in different countries. Currently Russia, it’s prosocial to express a mild patriotism, while in anglosaxon cultures it can seem to be now the opposite, perhaps as a form of self-deprecating politeness (i.e. conformist attitude for English people seems to be that you should ostentatiously criticize England and its politics, when speaking to people from non-anglosaxon countries).

It is something typical of certain classes of English people and has been getting increasingly mainstream; there are those comments by George Orwell from the 1930s about left-wing British intellectuals being more ready to rob a poor box than stand up during the national anthem and it seems to have grown from there. Lately it looks like they have got into the habit of doing it so much that they believe most of what they are saying and have become anti-patriotic, which is not sensible.

https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/6526722a/1ed4c65f/sacred-mandalas-berkeley-usa-shutterstock-editorial-6526722a.jpg

Until you meet the Sword||

No sword can survive against VAJRA, the divine thunderbolt weapon of Indra, we Buddhists believe that Bodhicitta or the tamed and awakened mind is the Vajra, a most supreme weapon that there is, such weapon can pierce through every material, and no weapon or shield can endure before its might!

https://cdn.exoticindia.com/buddha/ti65.jpg

Did you read the article? It’s more about why America cannot be made great again than China. Gildman is far from being a China-hater. Quite the opposite, he always points towards these attitudes being deluded.

Our Sikh friend does not believe in abstract notions. He is more adept at analyzing the material and self evident. Sword (or rather kirpan) worship is the highest level of abstraction he could possibly reach. But as the saying goes: who comes by the sword does by the sword. Also: God is not found in (brute) force, but in (ethical) Truth. And the man who used both these expressions, while talking to his soldiers, was himself an embodiment of warrior virtues: a hero, a ruler and a Saint.

https://aria-art.ru/0/A/Aleksandr%20Nevskij/5.jpg

This is what makes a people superior: the ability to produce higher insight and defend it against brute force. Just getting more gibs through the sword does not free you from life and death.

The Virgin People’s Republic of China territorial claims

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/CHN_orthographic.svg/440px-CHN_orthographic.svg.png

Versus

The Chad Republic of China territorial claims

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Republic_of_China_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/500px-Republic_of_China_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png

There were Nath Sadhus called Sastra-Dharis who were militant warrior Yogins, and who fought against Muslims.

Nathas by the way are one of the few sects that have genuine Hindu-Buddhist syncretic origins, though nowadays they are definitely more Hindu.

US signed deal with ALIEN Galactic Federation to experiment on humans, claims Israeli ex military space chief in bizarre interview
https://www.rt.com/news/508962-israel-space-chief-alien-federation/

Eshed acknowledged that his claims, which he offered with no evidence, might appear outlandish, but said he believes humanity will gradually come to accept them as true, and that some people may already have seen the light.

“If I came up with what I was saying five years ago today, I would have been hospitalized,” he said. “Until today, every place that I approached in the academy with this, they said, the guy has lost his mind.”

Funny that you wrote about this. It actually would be the Occam’s Razor explanation for a lot of things.

I’m only taking your Brahmanical bs to its logical conclusion..

You literally have no concept of politics & religion being akin,

You feel safe||

That pretty much determines your outlook,

Anyway any faggy bs insulting warrior’s death is automatically dq’d.

You’re a christcuck,

https://twitter.com/_balorbirugderc/status/1332114565413412871?s=21

Go do ur thing|| 🙂

Was the 1990s nightmare not foreseeable ahead of time? If not, why not?

Why would it be foreseeable, given that transition from Communism had not yet occurred anywhere?

At the very least, western Ukrainians learned something about good government from 150 years of Hapsburg rule.

Western Ukraine has been the best managed part of Ukraine since independence. But it is only 10% of the country and has not been able to impose its politicians and political culture on the entire country so it was not free of overall 1990s debacle.

If Galicia had been its own independent country in 1990 it probably would have joined the EU quickly like the others Central European countries did, and by now would have been about as prosperous as other small Central European countries such as Slovakia, maybe even more so (Lviv has a more educated workforce and Galicia would have been a gas exporter). But Galicians, like Kharkivites, prefer to be in their country Ukraine even if doing so is not always in their own economic interests. There has been no significant anti-Ukrainian separatist movement in Galicia.

Sire, this is a Wendy’s.

What about Arab slave trade?

You will notice that the resentment-ridden, anti-white sicko only mentioned African slavery, but of course even a ‘racist’ like me can allow that slavery is slavery and that’s it’s horrible and wrong. His anti-whitism inures him the suffering of over a million Europeans enslaved by Arab raiders, and the terror that coastal southern European communities lived in for centuries of Arab raiding parties.

I’ve always thought that to be true secret of the alchemist’s art in refining the pure from the dross.

According to Bergier this has also been Fulcanelli’s take on the matter.

Arab raiding parties.

Barbary pirates were Arabized Berbers led by Turks. Calling them Arabs is a misnomer.

Other than that I agree with your comment. Slavery is slavery, whether of Blacks or Whites or Chinese. BTW, the words slave in english and esclave in french are directly derived from the Slovene and Sklaviny ethnonym.

But you probably knew it.

China and Russia that they have not been offered a similar deal by the ALIEN Galactic Federation.

The earliest description of a “small gray” Alien was given in the novel “Red Star” by Bogdanov Malinovsky written after 1905 (attempted) Russisb revolution and published around 1908. The main character is contacted by an Allien and taken on a ride in a space ship to this Alien’s home planet which the main character thinks is Mars (hence the title of the book).

The space ship is moved by “by energy of decay of matter” (published in 1908!). Aliens live in a collectivist society where private property has been erased long ago and where everything is planned and controlled by computers (published in 1908!). The Aliens are nearly completely genderless (published in 1908!).

Now have a look at current societal trends…

Ah before I forget, Bogdanov Malinovsky competed with Lenin for the leadership of the Bolsheviks. He was the one who suggested the red star as a symbol of the Communist movement.

When the revolution succeeded, he abandoned active politics and concentrated on scientific work

I believe that one beef-eater would be victorious over a hundred beef-abstainers, even if that one beef-eater got his nourishment from the slimey, reprocessed concoction, known as a Big Mac, which is probably only 10% beef, and 90% hog entrails.

Somehow they failed to record virtually total genocide of indigenous peoples in North America

They not only recorded but often exaggerated scales of European atrocities:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_legend_(Spain)

More people were killed by bullets and deliberately spread disease or starved to death then Aztecs and Maya combined managed to kill during centuries of their rule

Usual nonsense. Deaths from disease were overwhelmingly non deliberate in nature and typically preceded first contact. Even the infamous and isolated smallpox blanket case at Fort Erie was noneffective. That leaves “killing by bullets,” which may have been done by Natives to other Natives to a greater extent than by Europeans upon natives. The typical pattern was that the first tribe to get guns would use them to settle scores against their longstanding enemy tribes. You dehumanize natives when you deny them their human warlike nature and portray them merely as these totally peaceful victims.

The conservative estimate of people sacrificed by Aztecs is about 10,000 per year (estimates go as high as 100,000). That is, 100,000 people harvested for sacrifice over 10 years, a million total over 100 years until the horrified Spaniards ended this practice and the demon-worship underlying it. There is a reason why, when the small Spanish force arrived to erase the Aztecs, it was joined by large numbers of natives.

In contrast, the dreaded Spanish Inquisition totaled some 6,000 victims over its 300 year application.

Solid points, still the thrust of AnonTN’s comment is solid. He rightly highlights the dastardly behavior of the western expansionists. This can most clearly be seen by contrasting it with Russian behavior, which never encroached upon any people or territory not rightfully its own.

Been thinking about the theater – traditionally, it is said to have a lot of superstitions.

I’ve always dismissed this as being a bit of humor in the face of stage fright, but lately I’ve been wondering if this view is wrong. Maybe, it is explained by the natural personality characteristics of actors – their political compasses, and that they really are a naturally superstitious lot.

It’s been noted how many actors or creative people seem to have a leftward bent. It is also been observed how modern political discourse is dominated by the Left’s belief in invisible forces, in hexes, such as it is common for primitive Africans to believe in.

Perhaps, in olden times, they worked theses superstitions into the stories they told – like ghosts, witches, and elves – and this helped amuse people and make them a success. Now, they are working their new superstition into stories: racism, only it is not as amusing.

The Indian and mixed part of the population

On my visit to Peru I learned two things:
1. Indigenous people resent being called Indians. They rightly point out that they have nothing to do with India and cannot be held responsible for the stupidity of Columbus and many other European explorers. Peruvians say that they should be called Quechua people (that’s their prevailing language), or each tribe should be called by its name.
2. As compared to Mexico, there is remarkably little European blood in the population. In Cusco and in Amazonia ~98% of the people look indigenous, and even in Lima no more than 10% show any European ancestry in their phenotype.

We descended from “Purgatorius”, who looked like below. This my glorious ancestor – some kind of squirrel.

Which reminds me of a question I had for AltanBakshi or Ano4:

When did our ancestors acquire the capability of experiencing Nirvana, escaping the cycle of life and death and all that?

Could Neanderthals (who were able to interbreed with homo sapiens sapiens and had a bigger brain that ours) potentially reach those goals? And homo erectus (whose most evolved types appear to have also interbred with us)? Pithecanthropi?

In other words, when did exactly the “Nirvana-capable” gen mutation/s take place? Is any research being conducted to identify this gen (or genes)? If we had to wait for evolution to produce a Nirvana-capable species, then there MUST be a gene or collection of genes that make it possible.

And what if natural selection or environmental factors had never produced this mutation? Would all living creatures be condemned to exist in the fateful never ending cycle?

I don’t think I can ask the Christian commenters here a comparable question about heaven because their Holly Books spell the answer clearly for them. Those Christians who continue to take the Old Testament seriously cannot possibly accept evolution. And those who are able to see that the OT is just a collection of incoherent fables but somehow manage to believe in the rest of the Christian canon, must think that salvation is only possible through Christ so all those billions of creatures, human or not, who didn’t manage to be born before Jesus Christ (or at least Moses) must have ended up in hell.

This theory (red star = Mars) is still being seriously discussed:
Так почему все-таки на советском гербе изображена планета Марс?

When did our ancestors acquire the capability of experiencing Nirvana, escaping the cycle of life and death and all that?

Hard to give definite answer. The problem with animals is that its hard for them to understand causality, yes they can understand simple things, they feel passion and attachment, aversion and so on, but its not like they can put together thoughts and analyze their situation.

When such beings arise who are capable of analysis and have capacity for logical thought, then there is always a chance that in suitable circumstances some of them can achieve the state of Nirvana.

Could Neanderthals (who were able to interbreed with homo sapiens sapiens and had a bigger brain that ours) potentially reach those goals? And homo erectus (whose most evolved types appear to have also interbred with us)? Pithecanthropi?

I dont know, even most humans are not capable of enlightenment, but its not like we have any magical obstacles or objections against them reaching the Nirvana. In Buddhism there is concept of so called “central lands.” Where there are laws and people can freely practice their religion, in other words there is somekind of civilization. Its not maybe impossible, but its very rare that Buddhas appear in lands that are tribal and chaotic.

In other words, when did exactly the “Nirvana-capable” gen mutation/s take place? Is any research being conducted to identify this gen (or genes)? If we had to wait for evolution to produce a Nirvana-capable species, then there MUST be a gene or collection of genes that make it possible.

Is there a specific gene that makes us to desire something, or is there a specific gene that makes us to avert non pleasant things?
You try too hard, it seems that the rigid and constrained catholicism of your youth has just transformed into rigid and constrained form of atheism.

And what if natural selection or environmental factors had never produced this mutation? Would all living creatures be condemned to exist in the fateful never ending cycle?

Do you mean that without Buddhism life would have continued forever on this planet? Strange presupposition.

Funnily Buddhists are already asking much more complicated questions than this stuff.
There is discussion among us if artificial intelligence could achieve Nirvana.

Here is what H.H. Dalai Lama says on the topic: https://sanjindumisic.com/dalai-lama-on-reincarnation-and-artificial-intelligence/

So Holocaust was inevitable and Nazis didnt have free will? Also if I understand you correctly the Holocaust was karmically predetermined?

I think this sub-thread illustrates the cause of problems Europeans have dig themselves into (and it started already in Roman Empire).
We simply are not content with doing our own business but for some reason want to spread universalist values at the side. I understand why one may see colonizing America as a good thing, because it spread our kind to other continent and brought huge fortunes back home. But justifying it because it ended human sacrifice by Aztecs? Why should it concern us? Why should we care how other people and civilizations are behaving? In the rare occasions when it really is our concern (like slave raids in med) the problem can usually solved by military means without attaching any soft “values” to it.
This universalism has now IMHO came home to roost. Europe has largely exhausted barbarian hordes to convert to “civilization” and thus has targeted the energy toward its own native population. The basic formula is the same – in earlier times it was paganism, human sacrifice, slavery – now it is xenophobia, racism, xenophobia etc.

Why should we care how other people and civilizations are behaving?

If my neighbor is making a mistake I should in kindness correct him. If he is ripping out the beating heart of someone in his household as a sacrifice to a Sun Demon I should try to stop him.

Europe has largely exhausted barbarian hordes to convert to “civilization” and thus has targeted the energy toward its own native population. The basic formula is the same – in earlier times it was paganism, human sacrifice, slavery – now it is xenophobia, racism, xenophobia etc

There are still plenty of problems outside of Europe that Europeans could fix if they had the will to do so. You are correct that the self-destruction we are witnessing is a perversion and misapplication of a formula that had once brought much good into the world. The problem is not the formula itself but the perversion. A Christian culture without Christianity is a very dangerous and aversive thing.

I think things like square circles and other self contradictory concepts fall into this category.

They resent being called Indios because it’s a term of racial disparagement,

The word “Indio” has strong negative connotations in Mexico. Peruvian society is a lot less racist (maybe because, in contrast to Mexico, the majority of the people there have indigenous blood). Besides, the term “Quechua” means exactly the same thing, and they have no objection to it.

“For many whites, the naming of white racial power is the issue rather than its existence.”
p. 96

I doubt it is for most of the readers of the Unz forum.

The only thing is often Europeans don’t think in terms of generic ‘white’ racial power (more an American thing) but in the power of particular ethnic groups; Russian ethnic power, Ukrainian, Italian ethnic power etc. Only progressives will think these are bad or unnatural things in themselves or be in denial about their existence.

DiAngelo and her ‘field’ of research have plenty of explanations of how to forestall criticism of their ideas by appealing to the principle that any challenge or rejection of their various claims and assertions proves them true (basically a question begging fallacy). Things will get interesting though if the CRT crowd in the US try to use it as a guide to describing and reshaping international relations.

Paintings and statues of some fat little man. No thanks.

Compare to this:

https://i.imgur.com/X2utogS.jpg

Or, this:

https://images.oca.org/icons/lg/november/1124bmercurius.jpg

BTW, Mikel, you’ve managed to piss off someone in comment 470 for no other reason than politely asking reasonable questions, so congratulations 🙂 You have graduated, my friend. Use your new powers wisely.

(Sorry to AP, who I have nothing whatsoever against and find a polite and thoughtful commenter)

Mm, https://www.macleans.ca/society/are-white-canadians-getting-conscious-of-their-whiteness/

EU federalism, inter-marriage & immigration will change that||

I mean the only way to counter CRT is a wholesale rejection at point of sword||

Why would it be foreseeable, given that transition from Communism had not yet occurred anywhere?

The collapse/break-up of Austria-Hungary and the partition of India have both already previously shown what can happen when a unified territory becomes divided, no?

Western Ukraine has been the best managed part of Ukraine since independence. But it is only 10% of the country and has not been able to impose its politicians and political culture on the entire country so it was not free of overall 1990s debacle.

If Galicia had been its own independent country in 1990 it probably would have joined the EU quickly like the others Central European countries did, and by now would have been about as prosperous as other small Central European countries such as Slovakia, maybe even more so (Lviv has a more educated workforce and Galicia would have been a gas exporter). But Galicians, like Kharkivites, prefer to be in their country Ukraine even if doing so is not always in their own economic interests. There has been no significant anti-Ukrainian separatist movement in Galicia.

Frankly, I suspect that Galicia might have developed a pseudo-separatist movement in 2013-2014 had Yanukovych succeeded in crushing the Maidan protests in Kiev during this time but not in Galicia and Volhynia. In such a scenario, Galicians would not have formally aimed to secede from Ukraine; rather, they would have aimed to overthrow Yanukovych. However, because Yanukovych’s hold on power in Kiev and everywhere to the east of Kiev would have been very secure, a mass decision by Galicians to rebel against Yanukovych in this scenario would have been tantamount to a de facto Galician secession from the rest of Ukraine. In such a scenario, I suspect that both Vinnytsia and Zhytomyr would have been major battlegrounds–comparable to Slovyansk, Kramatorsk, and Mariupol in real life.

But anyway, Yeah, Galicians certainly deserve credit for pushing Ukraine towards the right path and in the right direction. Ironically, annexing western Ukraine was one of the best things that Stalin ever did. It unfortunately and tragically resulted in decades of misery for western Ukrainians, but it also allowed western Ukraine to become the necessary nationalistic core for the rest of Ukraine, thus preventing Ukraine from slipping back into a state of Imperial Moskali Domination (TM) in 2013-2014. 🙂

The Spaniards didn’t come to the new world armed with chemists and microbiologists. The natives died of disease because of factor beyond the control of the Spanish. Anyhow, I only dispute the claim that European accounts of human sacrifice in the new world were somehow misleading. If you want to argue the Spanish colonies in the new world were bad for the natives, that’s fine by me.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Siddhartha_fasting%2C_old_reduced-size_replica_of_original_in_Lahore_Museum%2C_Gandhara%2C_2nd-3rd_century_AD%2C_slate_-_Linden-Museum_-_Stuttgart%2C_Germany_-_DSC03816.jpg/727px-thumbnail.jpg

Fat?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERWWjJMWsAAMYs_.jpg:large

Here is a depiction of Siddhartha Gautama, the historical Buddha, during his ascetic phase, before he achieved the state of awakening and established our religion. These statues are probably from 3rd or 4th century. Though Buddha later understood the folly of such extreme asceticism, he always wanted himself test and see what results different kind of exertions and practices produce, during those ancient times, there were many spiritual teachers who claimed that by extreme exertion and asceticism one can achieve spiritual states that are beyond the mundane existence of common man. So Buddha himself put those practices into test, so great was his manly willpower / Virya. Empirically he proved himself that self mortification does not produce results on the path. Soon someone is going to say that it should had been self evident to him, but to them I will say, how it could have been when there was no modern science and land was full of such ascetics who claimed divine results from such practices?
Thankfully Buddha did not die after such fasting, thanks to a milkmaid named Sujata who gave him rice boiled in milk, so rice pudding? And Siddhartha gained his strength back and was inspired to create one of our core religious doctrines the Middle Way.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BBXGBH/pakistan-punjab-region-lahore-national-museum-fasting-buddha-BBXGBH.jpg

Though Buddha later understood the folly of such extreme asceticism

That’s interesting. I wasn’t aware that Buddha ever admitted an error. One of the things I’ve found off-putting about Buddhism – apart from finding certain claims about reality completely unconvincing – is that its teachings consist mostly of a series of overconfident assertions rather than arguments. In other words, just because Buddha said something is no reason to accept it as true.

Both AaronB and Ano4? Buddhism isnt deterministic, yes some Hinayana schools are, but not the Mahayana. Not at all! Determinism is not far away from essentialism Ano4 and what else determinism is than grasping, and those who have grasping – do not have the view. Literally they dont understand anything about Dharma and Im not speaking in Prajna-Paramita sense.

Though I must raise my hat to AaronB for being logically consistent, to solve the problem of evil in such way is to me quite odd, but its even stranger that a Jew is proponent of such logic. Though I specifically laid these questions as traps to you. You have a potential be a good Buddhist, for your attachment to Jewishness is not an obstacle to you. Though Karma is never predetermined, its true that we suffer because of our karma, if one accepts this unpleasant truth, then one has accepted one of the major truths of Buddha.

In Dharma we are proponents of a Middle Way, its good and beneficial to love ones family and kin, but to think that ones nation or family has a permanent essence, or quality that makes it to have attributes that are always better and more special than those of other nations or families, that kind of thinking is a fetter, an obstacle, as is thinking that ones kin doesnt matter at all, both extremes lead to bad results.

Buddhism isn’t deterministic, but it is thoroughly conditional. Because this is – that is, because a set of conditions arise – this phenomenon arises, because this set of conditions disappear – this phenomenon ceases. The web of conditions is encompassing the whole of the physical reality. The flow of conditions is going through cycles of arising and ceasing universes through times immemorial.

It is a complex, non-linear network of causal nodes in which each cause is also a consequence. The causes and consequences are interlinked and weighed in a very complex manner. It is ia dynamic system in a constant state of flux. Each life path is a non-linear flow of causality. At the same time, the basic fabric of reality is experienced as psycho-physical units of experience: the dharmas (small d), the whole experience and its adequate description being the Dharma (capital D).

If instead of using d/Dharma, we used quanta and/or bits the Western mind would probably accept this description as more or less adequate. The karma is then the causality linking the dharmas in both space and time. It is the law effecting the causal agents. It does not exist if causal agents do not exist. Each causal agent is a karmic construct. But regardless of terminology, the whole representation of things means that if enough necessary conditions are present, then something will happen, a causal agent will arise and effect the whole web of reality in a certain manner triggering a certain outcome.

In the 1930ies, the conditions for a major crisis in Europe were present. This crisis was partly due to the role played by international Jewry in the world affairs This crisis was to effect painful results upon different groups of people, with the Jewry being hardly hit because it was pivotal to several prior developments of European socioeconomic and political trends.

The main and most important cause of the calamity that befell the European Jewry was the disproportionate role played by the Jews in the worldwide Communist movement and especially in the Russian revolution. The Judeo-Bolshevism was the direct cause of Holocaust.

The Judeo-Bolshevism was itself a consequence of numerous causal links going back millenia and intertwined with the religious and socioeconomic evolution of the European populations. The Holocaust did not start in 1939, it was centuries in making.

The peaceful co-existence of the European gentiles and Jews has become impossible. Suffering was bound to follow for both of them.

Could this have been averted entirely? I don’t think so. Could it have played out in a different way, possibly yes. But these are rhetorical questions and hindsight is 20/20.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a7/91/fc/a791fc3e66c75c24990c11e23a4520e0–footprints-lotus.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbE6sAAUcAAi-NA.jpg

Buddhism is not about the historical Buddha. He is not some kind of Messiah or Godman. One sees the Tathagata etc.

confused ideas about what is beautiful.

Are you a “my beauty is bigger than yours ” type of person? Cause you sure seem to be.

Also:

https://youtu.be/VL9whwwTK6I

Now peace off…

To me its confusing that you think that your standards of beauty are somehow objectively definitive. By the way that sculpture is not from the 4th century, but from the 2nd and possibly made by Hellenes, and I agree its not a beautiful statue, nor it was made to be.

When a culture and its people are healthy then beauty is quite objective. Italian Renaissance paintings all differ but they adhere to certain definitions of beauty. Bach’s works differ but they adhere to certain definitions of beauty. Compare this to paintings of Pollock. They all differ but they are joke. There is no identifiable beauty in them unless the observer is a serious criminal. Likewise with rap music. These are not the products of healthy people.