I am not one of those people who mock Ukraine as Africa with snow.
It’s amusing, but not really accurate.
But goddamn they do they sometimes give cause for it!
Not only do they have the highest measles rate in Europe, they have the highest measles rate in the entire world.
53,000 cases in 2018!
There are also reports that there have been another 24,042 cases in the first two months of this year. It’s a raging epidemic at this point.
Why Ukraine?
Obviously because Russian trolls hoodwinked them onto anti-vax in revenge for the Maidan.
By 2016, Ukraine’s measles vaccination rate was down to 42%, wedged in between Anglo and Nigeria; Somalia was slightly higher; only four countries – Nigeria, Chad, Equatorial Guinea, and South Sudan – did worse.
It did recover to 86% in 2017, but evidently too late to prevent the epidemic.
This is the price of freedom!1!!!
Any, non-pun, medical/social scientific theories as the ’cause’ of the epidemic.
Replacement of proper Russian-made vaccines with chip hindu-made generics. General self-destruction of the failed pseudostate as a force multiplier.
In 2018, 11.5% of the cases were in the 1st two months, so if this were to hold for 2019 the total for the year would be 208,000!
I wonder what the case was in Crimea, as well as the Donbass.
Bet you germ warfare people are analyzing all the ins and outs. Something like this might have big implications for smallpox or other potential biological weapons. In a nuclear war, the places that produce vaccines and the knowledge centers might be a primary target, let alone the disruptions to supply chains and the economy.
I guess this would be one reason DNA vaccines might be useful. You could potentially print them out from the amino acids, making the process less dependent on other materials and knowledge.
Russia to the rescue, in Belarus at least.
Historically in the West I believe the mortality rate was something like 3 in 1000, whereas the current rate of anaphylactic reaction to vaccines is something like 1 in 2 000 000. Nobody really knows what the current mortality rate for measles would be, but Ukraine must be producing some data (after controlling for a poor health system). Anatoly?
Viruses.
If these even work.
And then how do you administer and transport them.
In a nuclear war scenario, you can roughly stick vaccination programs up the dark side. Smallpox will be least of your problems.
Meanwhile Ebola:
https://www.msf.org/msf-ebola-centre-north-kivu-inoperative-after-violent-attack-democratic-republic-congo
I think there’s a bit of a question about how well the germ theory of disease would work preventing outbreaks in the West, even with the infrastructure smashed. Even in a scenario where bioweapons were used.
I mean just boiling water, as well as isolating contaminated people. There’s a lot of densely populated places with not a lot of readily available fuel though. Starvation would certainly make things a lot worse.
I suppose they knew about germs in the early 20th century, but still a lot of people died of disease back then.
But it probably would have been a lot worse.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/spanish-flu-1-25-18-1-1024×623.jpg
That should be “but it probably would have been a lot worse if they didn’t know about germs.”
Wow first thread AP did not jump on like bat out of hell.
That’s certainly true.
There used to be a big debate about plague. Was it a different organism or strain that had been so contagious in medieval times? Or was it the idea of sanitation and the official response that had contained the Third Pandemic. (Though up to 12 million died).
Interestingly, some Soviet soldiers came down with it in Afghanistan. Apparently, they – or at least the unit – didn’t have the same level of supply and support as US troops later did, and this resulted in cleanliness issues.
The Japanese program during WW2 is usually described as a failure, but, of course, they didn’t have the same tools.
Are there statistics by region?
A solution to the Ukraine’s epidemic is available in Sweden:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0q07gxX0AEdiAH.jpg
Underrated humor factor: Canada had less than 50% measles vax coverage until 1987. That stellar Canuck health system at work, eh.
His beloved ragulyatina is hit the hardest.
I don’t know what it was, but I can tell you this: I had measles, as did about 50% of the kids with whom I went to elementary school. There were about 400 kids in the school every year for 6 years. No one died. In my adult life, no one I know suffered the dreaded side effects of measles, and none of them know, or heard of anyone dying or suffering the dreaded side effects of measles.
My brother had mumps, and it was the same story for him. That was in the 1950s and there were no vaccines given, other than for polio, which proved (both of them) not to be as effective as advertised.
In the 19th century tens of thousands died from measles. In the 1950s it was almost unheard of.
Ya think mother nature played a bigger role than vaccines?
Because there was, and is, scant evidence that vaccines actually work.
It’s worst in the West. Apparently some kid there died after a measles vaccination in 2013 or so and this was widely reported in the media. Combined with anti-vaxx propaganda and poor supplies following the post-Maidan chaos and it was a perfect storm.
“Combined with anti-vaxx propaganda”
As opposed to the pure truth told by the drug dealers and their CDC Sluts.
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Media/248628-2018-10-03-10-03-18-james-corbett-tim-picciott-dr-judy-mikovits.htm
I take it this is due to inability to get vaccinations as opposed to a belief that vaccines cause autism.