Greenpeace meets Wolverines in this new Norwegian TV series.
Much as Russians would appreciate this, are there really no other hotbutton issues in Norway worthy of being explored in TV series and documentaries?
Russia Invades Norway
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was written by Anatoly Karlin for Russian Reaction on August 27, 2015
THE HOT-BUTTON ISSUE OF MASSIVE 3RD WORLD IMMIGRATION IS BEING COVERED UP B Y THE JEWISH CONTROLLED MEDIA.
Yes, there are hot button issues, such as massive 3rd world immigration and the alien invasion of USA and EU, which is causing an existential threat to these countries.
This is basically a 3rd world war on USA and EU, especially on the whites therein.
But the Jewish controlled media is covering it up, and distracting the public with stories of the whore who went around sleeping with garbage the world over (as posted on Huffington Post), the latest app that adds 2 and 2, Kim Kardashian’s (who is she, by the way?) latest wardrobe malfunction, etc. so you won’t notice the Judaists’s 3rd world war (the alien invasion) on the goyim to destroy the white goyim by proxy, as revenge for the holohoax and other imaginary acts of “anti-semitism”.
“…are there really no other hotbutton issues in Norway …”
While I disagree with your assessment of the Ukraine crisis (I think Russias’s behaviour has been pretty appalling), I agree concerning the anti-Russian invasion scares in Scandinavia (Sweden also seems to be prominent in this regard): they’re patently ridiculous. Western liberals and “conservatives” seem intent on creating an image of Russia as the hostile “Other”, while they’re too cowardly or too stupid to talk about the far more serious dangers of mass immigration.
[I think Russias’s behaviour has been pretty appalling]
Just as a great injustice was done to the German people at Versailles, so a great injustice was done to the Russian people at Belovezhskaya Pushcha in 1991. There’s nothing appalling about starting to put it right.
Frankly, I don’t think any great “injustice” was done to the Russian people by the dissolution of the Soviet empire. And even if there had been, I find Putin’s methods for rectifying that supposed injustice rather deplorable.
As I wrote in my previous post though, I find a lot of the Russophobia in Western media pretty silly. There are more serious threats to Europe, existential ones, and more important issues than who rules Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.
Please elaborate what those deplorable methods and Russia’s appalling behavior are. I am not asking for a long essay, just a series of bullet points (top five, top 10, your pick). I am asking this to set the basis for common understanding, not because I am trying to be difficult.
Mass immigration is our fate.
We should embrace it, not fight it.
A COMMENTATOR WHO WILL EMBRACE THE INVADERS?
So, if a gang of black thugs come and attack you (and God forbid, your wife) on the street, you will just go on your knees and let them do whatever they want to you and your wife?
Oh, or, maybe you will “embrace” them? If it happened, it must be your “fate”, you know.
And if you have a melanoma tumor, or an intestinal polyp, you will just let it mushroom? And start embracing it?
Sick, sick, sick.
I live in Central Europe.
We don’t have enough Negro street gangs to fear them.
Yes, I prefer the “invaders” to autochthonous ethno-nationalists.
I’d say unilaterally annexing the territory of other sovereign states and fomenting an armed insurrection shouldn’t be acceptable behaviour in international relations (yes, I know, the US, Europe and NATO have been responsible for lots of dubious stuff too in the last 20 years, but that doesn’t excuse what Russia has been doing in Ukraine).
Assuming you aren’t being ironic, that’s somewhat like telling a woman that is about to be raped “Just lie back and enjoy it”.
No thanks.
I am not ironic.
I am a naturalized invader who does not feel an emotional connection to our present country.
So you’re telling me you’re an immigrant who is in favour of more immigration?
How surprising.
Soon you’ll discover that the invaders are ethno-nationalists as well. And that you are on the wrong side of their ethnic loyalty.
Oh I see, you’re one of the invaders. Then disregard my previous comment. It doesn’t include anything you didn’t already know.
No emotional connection implies no appreciation for a system that willingly adopted you and gave you better opportunities.
Get out. Leave. You are not worthy of living in a civilized society.
In the great power game, there’s no point at which one player gets to say, “All right, now that I’ve won, I’ve won for ever. The game’s over.”
By “unilaterally annexing the territory of other sovereign states” you must mean Crimea. Now had Russia annexed Estonia or Mongolia or somesuch, I would have agreed with you. But I don’t agree on Crimea. As I’m sure you know, it’s been Russian for centuries, it only became part of Ukraine by a stroke of Khrushchev’s pen, and the population, overwhelmingly Russian, actually voted last year to join Russia. That’s not an annexation in my book, certainly not unilateral. It’s not any worse than, for example, carving Kosovo out of Serbia, the event which both our governments (U.S. and Germany) promoted and supported.
By “fomenting an armed insurrection” you must mean the war in Donbas. Definition of foment: rouse, incite. By that definition the armed insurrection was fomented by the Kiev authorities, who have been waging war on their own civilians for close to a year and a half.
Since you read The Unz Review you must be aware of non-MSM sources of news, so we should agree on the basic facts of the above two points.
“(T)he US, Europe and NATO have been responsible for lots of dubious stuff too in the last 20 years, but that doesn’t excuse what Russia has been doing in Ukraine.” Why not? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, isn’t it? Unless the U.S., Europe and NATO reverse what they have been doing for the last 20 years, complaining about what the Russians are doing is the ultimate hypocrisy.
Finland and Estonia became part of Russia decades before Crimea did. Much of Poland became a part of Russia at about the same time as did Crimea.
It should be noted that the Crimean population became majority-Russian only after World War II and Stalin’s mass deportations of the native Tatars. Russians became a plurality in Crimea sometime between 1897 and 1926 (probably closer to the former date). The idea that Crimea is some sort of ancient Russian land is a myth.
While parts of Crimea such as Sevastopol are indeed overwhelmingly Russian the province as a whole is about 60% Russian.
While Russia would have won a free referendum the one that was run was dubious.
Two wrongs – and Kosovo was clearly wrong – do not make a right. Moreover these wrongs are not equal. Kosovo was 90% Albanian, Crimea 60% Russian. Kosovo became majority-Albanian about a century before Crimea became majority-Russian. While NATO propaganda exaggerated the extent and nature of Serb crimes in Kosovo, there was indeed some persecution and some (hundreds?) of deaths. Not so in Crimea – fear of a one-time Odessa event isn’t equivalent to actual events in Kosovo.
Strelkov wasn’t a Ukrainian civilian – he wasn’t even a Ukrainian citizen. There is a parallel here to what is happening in Syria, with Kiev in the role of Assad and Russia playing the role Turkey/Saudi Arabia/USA. Ukraine’s situation is a much milder form, thank God.
The government has a right and duty to maintain order, even by force if necessary, in its own territory. If various building were taken over by a mixture of local unelected activists and foreign helpers in some Russian province Putin would be equally justified in using force to stop it.
Kiev didn’t recognize Kosovo. The gander is not the one whose territory has been invaded and annexed. Ironically, had Ukraine been a NATO member and thus a “gander” it is likely that it’s territory would not have been invaded or annexed.
But, the bottom line, is that in Crimea Russia unilaterally invaded and annexed the territory of a sovereign state. In the Donbas, it has provided arms and volunteers (as well as intelligence and other support, and most likely some troops) to insure the extension and continuation of a war.
You’re right about Kosovo, that set a very dangerous precedent and makes Western objections to Crimea look somewhat hypocritical. But still, I object to Russia’s annexation of Crimea, unilaterally changing borders based on some alleged “historic rights” or some dubious referendum, should be out of the question in today’s Europe. It can only lead to increased international instability. I’ve actually had some sympathy for Russias’s position on many issues (like the Syrian civil war) where Russians are posing as the defenders of state sovereignty against “humanitarian” interventionists…unfortunately it seems to be just a pose, as shown by Russia’s eclatant lack of respect for Ukraine’s sovereignty.
Regarding the civil war in Ukraine: I’m not going to deny that the Ukrainian government does quite a few questionable things, up to including possible war crimes, in its conduct of the war…but it looks to me that Russia deliberately instigated that conflict by massive support for the rebels and use of its own armed forces. I don’t find such methods acceptable.
But still, as I wrote, I don’t regard Russia as the big bad evil that has to be brought down to its knees…I’d dearly like a negotiated solution to that idiotic conflict…there are more important issues to dangers to worry about.
mass immigration is not a problem, it becomes a problem when the wrong people immigrate. Immigration from sunni muslim countries creates problems, immigration from subsaharan Africa creates problems. When 20 million russians, chinese, hindu indian or mexican people would immigrate to Germany I personally would see not a problem with that (although in general 40 million people in Germany would be nicer than 80 million, simply because of population density)
Hey Erik, come on, 20 million (!) Russians, Chinese, Hindus or Mexicans would also be a problem, as inevitably there would be lots of violent underclass people among them. But I agree with you, Sunni Muslims and black Africans really are the most problematic. What’s currently going on in Germany, throwing the doors wide open to extactly those groups most likely to cause trouble, is just utter insanity.
They’d destroy social trust and fragment society along ethnic lines. A few of them could be absorbed.
If 20 million Chinese were to immigrate to Germany, there will definitely be a lot of violent underclass…of Native Germans.
We will take over high paying professional jobs and leaving only the menial service job to native Germans.
To paraphrase Scarface, we will first take your money, and then your women too…
Luckily for Germans, my People prefer truly civilized Anglo-speaking Countries like US, Cananda and Australia, just so we don’t have to speak the truly ugly sounding barbaric tongue that is Deutsch.
You seem to have something of a superiority complex…one that comes across as rather ridiculous. Now I’ve never been to China and don’t intend to go there, but in any population of more than a billion people there’s bound to be lots of unpleasant, violent low-class people. Didn’t mean to state anything more than that, certainly wasn’t meant as a denigration of Chinese people per se.
As for that “we will take your women” nonsense, aren’t East Asian men supposed to be the big losers in the international dating market? Not that I care that much about these issues, but such boasts seem rather silly when there seem to be quite a few Asian losers in the US who’re whining on the Internet how they can’t get blonde girlfriends (which can get pretty disturbing at times, just think of that half-Asian Elliot Rodger nutcase).
I only know what a pretty German nurse once told me in Guatemala. She said German men don’t know how to move their hips, you know what I mean.
As I can tell from your reply, German men also lack a sense of humor.
We can go deeper and deeper into minutia of these issues, and we’ll never find a prefect equivalent because no two historical events are exactly the same and you can always find some detail that is different. That often leads to”aha, your argument isn’t valid because this detail X in this one case differs from detail Y in this other case, so I win” in online discussions. It is also pointless.
The important point is, Russians see what we do around the world and the mess we make, and they conclude “if you can do X, then we can do Y.” What matters is that they see X and Y as equivalent, not identical. Others see it too, primarily Chinese, and take note. We can choose to recognize that reality and stop behaving in a way that would give others reason to misbehave, or we can continue thinking only we can get away with it and keep doing what we’re doing. Figure it out for yourself which kind of world you’d rather live in.
I couldn’t detect any irony in your post, and I’m usually not bad at this. And some Chinese do seem to cultivate a pretty strange kind of ethnocentrism. I once had a discussion on the British Daily Telegraph’s website with some Chinese fellow (from Singapore if I recall correctly). Among other things he told me that Britain and other Western countries should apologize and pay reparations for the Opium wars and the intervention against the Boxers. He also boasted that Chinese in Western countries were fifth-columnists loyal only to China and that China was supposedly working on bio weapons targeting non-Chinese. I found that pretty bizarre and even somewhat disturbing.
But maybe I just don’t get Chinese humour.
You could tell it was a joke because of the Anglo boosting.
[Figure it out for yourself which kind of world you’d rather live in.]
Liars like this would rather live in a world where the US taxpayer continues to pay directly or indirectly for their mendacious propaganda, which they do.
Somewhat? Well, it is a case, I guess, of being slightly pregnant then. Kosovo doesn’t make “West’s objections somewhat hypocritical”, it makes a number of Western political and media figures eligible to stand trial as war criminals.
Crimea is much more complex than that. It’s a long story of being forced into Ukraine SSR by Kruschev after centuries as part of Russia, and spending the intervening decades trying to become autonomous, with Kiev constantly nixing the outcome of legally held referendums in the 90s by fiat from the Rada.
Ukrainians want it both ways: To have disposed of their pre February 2014 Constitution, yet consider have that same nullified Constitution to remain in force when it comes to the Crimea referendum.
Nobody doubts the Crimeans wanted out of Ukraine, to a much more fervent degree than that of the Scots or Catalans to Britain and Spain.