I collected some official polls about Russian opinion towards China last year here.
But what do Russian nationalists in particular think?
Well, back around May 24-25, when it became clear that the Cold War was going to get a reboot with a major change in cast, a couple of us – myself, and Kirill Kaminets – carried out a poll on the matter.
- 59% to 41% “support” the US over China, given only those options
- The real winner, though, is “neutrality”, garnering 72% support in a question over whether Russia should support the US (18%) or China (10%) in a hypothetical armed conflict.
- 25% would support China, 21% the US, and 54% chose “other” (presumably “neutrality”, or are not Russians).
Caveats: These are Twitter polls, where anybody can vote, so skewing younger and more “online”. Also neither Kaminets nor I can be called central pillars of Russian nationalism, or any sort of reliable guide to its mean. Moreover, on average, we probably tilt slightly “Sinophile” within Russian nationalism. While my own case goes without saying – there’s at least one weirdo who outright considers me a Chinese agent – Kaminets’ erstwhile Vendee project hosted a translation of spandrell’s Bioleninism series as well as an interview with him. Certainly we are quite far from the “Sinophobic” extreme represented by Prosvirnin, or by a certain sect of Bronze Age Pervert acolytes.
That said, we do collectively have perhaps a couple of thousand of followers who consider themselves Russian nationalists, and neither of us represents some extreme or idiosyncratic variant of it. So I think the results – pretty much 50/50 – may be taken to be quite representative of Russian nationalist positions.
Though a caveat is that Zhirinovsky, the leader of the LDPR – the only ensconced nationalist political force – is pro-Chinese:
Zhirinovsky in the flesh! Strong performance. He condemns the Communists as anti-Russian nutjobs who killed millions of people, voiced support for the pensions reform (brave political move), and warns of American attempts to divide Russia and China. It was good to see there was none of the kneejerk Sinophobia that’s quite prevalent within their silovik constituency. I have been claiming China would be the next superpower literally since I began blogging a decade ago, and that gratuitous Sinophobia would be ruinous for Russia; bearing in mind the current trajectory of West-Russia relations, it’s safe to say that I have been vindicated.
Comparisons: From casual observation, I would estimate that 80%+ of commies have a positive outlook on the PRC, with mainstream normies/vatniks at ~65% (as suggested by the official polls). The libs are of course the most highly Sinophobic because they answer to the State Department.
To be sure, the Western Alt Right has some valid reasons to be Sinophobic. After all, most of them are American, and China is the only credible threat to American/broader white global hegemony (though this feeling is tempered by the fact that white forces have no power, and are indeed repressed within their own heartlands – hence, the tendency of more “racialist” Alt Righters, such as Andrew Anglin, to be more Sinophile). This becomes a dominant consideration when the focal point of one’s identity shifts from racial identity to a purely civic-populist one like with Boomer Bannon, which is just old school America First and anti-Communism; this is the point on the political spectrum where Sinophobia is maximized (think prewar America in the Fallout universe).
But it is much less clear what advantage Russian nationalists would derive from geopolitical Sinophobia, apart from serving as cannon fodder for people who occupy Kiev and who hate them far more than any Chinaman. In fact, the Alt Right themselves have a very nice four letter term for such people. This is something that I try to point out to Russian nationalists, if with limited success.
All in all it is probably a good thing that foreign policy is run by the kremlins as opposed to overly Americanophile nationalists (not to even mention liberals, whose kowtowing is overt)… or, for that matter, overly Sinophile commies.
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The only Russian Nationalist who’s opinion really matters, when it comes to China.
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If China were an actual threat to American hegemony, any alt-righter should lean sinophilic, especially Americans. The American Empire has been a disaster for old stock Americans. I don’t believe China is a threat to American hegemony(the American Empire is a threat to China however), so I don’t support sinophilia. Of course one should hardly support sinophobia either.
China has been the biggest beneficiary of the American Empire(the Japanese haven’t done too badly either). That will start changing, but probably few of those changes will be in the interest of Americans. Right now the powers that be are demonizing China over its treatment of Uighurs. Any pro-White person should be in favor of what the Chinese are doing. The Chinese could be like the Saudis, allowing troublesome Islamists to migrate West and cause all sorts of trouble. Instead, they are doing the opposite, imprisoning and trying to control these people. Other efforts to isolate China diplomatically centered around Taiwan, Hong Kong, or SCS nonsense aren’t particularly in American interests either. It’s just more crap from the same foreign policy scum who want to keep the American Empire going.
As for Boomer Bannon, nothing he has ever done indicates a principled individual. When he worked in the White House, his main role seemed to be a whorish media leaker. I think he’s just a grifter.
Many nationalists are extremely ignorant – they never understood that it is too late for the West, and still try to feed and prop-up the imperial Anglo-Zionist beast that will eat them later. Trying to prop up the US Empire. Thus they lash out in hatred against China, or Russia, or Iran, or the weakening of the West.
You failed to understand that it is not your “West” anymore. It is something new that is hostile to you. Its just a zombie, the corpse of the old West, who has some similarities in appearance with the old West, but its brain is remote controlled and its body is rotten.
Certain indications show that the West will be becoming even more and more liberal. What you see is just the beginning. Western nationalists will be marginalised and assimilated. The Republican Party will be wiped out. Trumpism will be destroyed. The future of the US is California.
The West is now just a zombie of (((them))). How do you fix the problem – you kill the zombie, so that it does not try to infect the rest of the world.
The only way to fix the problem is Multipolarity – that way, liberalism, or anglo-zionism, or Islam, or whatever, can not dominate the world. As there will be many cultures, civilisations, great powers and spheres of influence. That way, there is always escape route. There is no absolute power.
Power corrupts. Absolute power (US unipolarity) corrupts absolutely.
Thus any sane nationalist must support bringing down the US Empire, so that a sane path towards return of local cultures and traditions all over the world can be found.
Real Russian patriots are of course pro china. Those few retards who would support the pindos in a war simply ” because China is not white” have the intellect and the capacity of judgment of a down . Russia has too much to win cooperating with the future leading country on Earth. Provided of course the Chinese do not try to force their avantage and become too greedy .
Are the Uyghurs really violent “Islamists” though on the whole? As far as I can tell the violence they commit is typical of independence struggles regardless of religion.
Irish Republicans committed lots of terrorism and murders against the British, but most Americans seem to side with the Irish on that because they regard the British as oppressors and invaders in land that doesn’t belong to them, but you think that the Han Chinese have the right to ride roughshod over the Uyghurs because they’re Muslim and therefore by default terrorists who deserve to be destroyed?
Irish Republicans also have a long history of supporting the Palestinian struggle, who most Americans regard as violent Islamists.
Looking at the history of Uyghur separatist violence objectively, I can’t see that they have behaved any more violently towards the Han Chinese than Irish Republicans have towards the British.
My impression is that most Russians are fairly pro-USA or don’t have a strong opinion on it either way. If anything it’s Britain that tends to be the main target of their anti-Western feeling for various reasons.
Russia and the USA literally share a space programme, that level of co-operation between Britain and Russia would be almost unthinkable.
Uighurs have engaged in suicide attacks against crowded civilian areas, also knifing random people in public areas. This is classic Islamic terrorism tactics. The Chinese have responded to this by turning Xinjiang into a police state. So far it seems effective. There are also Uighurs that been served in Syria as anti-Assad forces.
Uighur independence has no justification. The modern Turkic Uighur group are recent migrants who came to the area after Qing genocide of Oirat Mongols. They later participated in forced conversions and massacres of Han Chinese and Manchus. They are not the autochthonous people of the area(though they do have admixture with older groups, to be fair).
Also, if you look at the casualties of modern Uighur terrorist attacks, they include Mongols from the area, not just Han Chinese. The Uighurs are trouble, quite simply.
My opinion about the whole history of Ireland is that the English were too soft on them. If the majority of Irish “independence” movements hadn’t consisted of foreign plots against the British crown, and if hypocritical Irish hadn’t immigrated to British territories in such large numbers, I might be able to overlook the horrendous crime of telling lies about Oliver Cromwell and take a more sympathetic stance on Irish independence. But since none of those things are the case, fuck them.
This really isn’t the case in the current year: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/when-russians-were-americanophiles/
Also you should really quit your whining, Britain or at least its cultural attributes (“Hogwarts”) enjoys cachet: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russian-anglophilia/
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Born to a Russian mother and a Chinese father, he was orphaned at a young age. Lin joined the Eighth Route Army to fight in the Second Sino-Japanese War before he turned 11. After the Second World War, he was trained as a fighter pilot and fought in the Korean War and the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis. He served as deputy commander of the PLA Air Force from 1985 to 1994 and attained the rank of lieutenant general in 1988.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Hu_(general)
The Chinese are not tolerant of religion…especially radical ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qocho
Those are different people. The modern people we call Uighurs were only given that name in the 20th century. Note that the modern Uighur language is part of the Karluk branch, related to Uzbek. It’s not descended from Old Uighur, from a completely different Turkic branch. Linguistically, Western Yugur, spoken by Yugurs in western Gansu, is closer to Old Uighur than this recent import, and also has traces of language contact. The Yugur themselves also have more claim to be descendants of the Uyghur Kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzhou_Uyghur_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugur
Misinformation?
https://audioboom.com/posts/7638105-is-vladivostok-in-the-frantic-xi-prc-appetite-gregory-copley
During the Sino-Soviet dispute, there was some Western reporting of Chjnese government problems with that group – adding that some of them went to the USSR.
America and Britain play cold-war games with Russia in the Arctic
NATO warships return to the icy Barents Sea for the first time in a generation
May 10th 2020
THE BARENTS SEA is not a hospitable place for visitors. “Frequent snow storms … blotted out the land for hours on end,” wrote an unlucky British submariner sent there to snoop around during the cold war. “We faced the beastliness of spray which turned to ice even before it struck our faces.” It is no surprise, then, that American warships have kept away from the sea since the mid-1980s—until they returned last week.
Their presence is part of a steady northward creep by NATO naval forces. In 2018 the alliance, joined by Sweden and Finland, held Trident Juncture, its largest exercise since the end of the cold war, in Norway. That involved the first deployment of an American aircraft-carrier in the Arctic Circle for three decades. Western warships have been frequent visitors since. On May 1st a “surface action group” of two American destroyers, a nuclear submarine, support ship and long-range maritime patrol aircraft, plus a British frigate, practised their sub-hunting skills in the Norwegian Sea.
Every year the Russian Far-East and Prinorsky Kray lose Slavic populations and gain Han Chinese.
The future?
https://youtu.be/n7273EEPD4Q
https://youtu.be/fbJ7VM46QVs
https://youtu.be/l3QpsFPHBPI
It happened before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies
http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/articles/Article26.htm
One of these Soviet Uyghurs became quite famous in the 90ies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alimzhan_Tokhtakhunov
https://youtu.be/Cd9HMXKDhhI
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoukhrat_Mitalipov
From the two ends of the spectrum.
Only one of these statements can be correct.
If the PRC is not a threat, why would they do what they do?
Their intention to keep the US empire going is sincere.
Obviously U.S. policymakers disagree with me and think China is a threat. Besides, foreign policy is subject to corruption and grift like any other part of government.
Looks like we have an anglogelical-ziocuck on our hands here. There is no place in the future of the West for anyone who would defend Cromwell.
Anglo is the only correct part of this statement.
No place in the future of the West for people like Thomas Carlyle either then. I would go much further than just defending Cromwell btw.
I can’t decide if Bannon believes his China hawkishness or pushes it for some other reason (because he thinks it’s a way to unify Americans?), but it seems so pointless. Obviously, China took advantage of neoliberals who ran the US and we should reverse those policies, but we don’t need a Cold War with China to do that. China is naturally constrained by geography and isn’t a threat to the US.
The Western Alt-Right who are anti-China for racial reasons are blissfully non-chalant about the geopolitical realities in East Asia. The USA is completely dependent upon Japan, a non-White country, as the linchpin of its Empire in East Asia. That’s why the USA was willing to allow Japan to export its way to become an industrial powerhouse in the world, as part of its Cold War strategy of containing Communist expansionism in East Asia, after the Korean War ended in a divided Korean peninsula.
Global hegemons like the USA need strategic allies such as Japan to play the geopolitical game in East Asia. But Japan is neither “White” nor “European” nor “Christian”. White ethno-nationalists like Trump don’t want to get involved in inter-Asian rivalries or territorial disputes because those Asian countries have nothing in common with them. They might want to get involved in the geopolitics of Europe because Europeans are White. Same reasoning behind their aversion to getting involved in the geopolitics of the Middle East because White ethno-nationalists don’t want to fight and die for Saudi Arabia or the State of Israel. The only possible outcome of White ethno-nationalism as typified by Trumpism is political isolationism/economic autarky which the US Deep State now considers to be the biggest threat to the USA Empire.
Russian support is 50-50 because they’re also 50-50 Caucasian-Mongloid
Got em!
https://twitter.com/bijjaichhand/status/1128599391168647170?s=20
Also, lot of alt right supports American empire because they’re in small towns with few minorities.
They perceive America as a country with a problematic but manageable minority + a few Asian immigrants.
Others are boomers who believe China works with Israel or unironically believe in the freedom nonsense.
https://twitter.com/mr_scientism/status/1270519772191522817?s=20
https://twitter.com/mr_scientism/status/1138481939890024449?s=20
Not so sure, they want to rebuild but ultimately genetic colonization or concubinage of other states and peoples is always on the table।।
https://vajrin.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/management-of-savagery-by-abu-bakr-naji-analysis-from-a-hindu-viewpoint/
Russian nationalists seem much less anti-American than American/European white nationalists
Another proof that the so-called “Russian nationalists” are mostly not nationalists but a bunch of disgusting freaks
So where have AquariusAnon and Duke of Qin gone, they are the ones who actually have a more nuanced and realistic view of China, instead of the China cheerleaders and fanboys (fangirls?) here. It is ironic that the most fanatical China fanboy here, Godfree Roberts, is living in Thailand instead of China.
Can you go more into the thought process of Russian nationalists?
Separately, the level of support for the US indicates a lot of Russian nationalists just don’t seem very bothered by the threat of the US to Russian sovereignty and the disastrous effects in race, immigration, and traditional values of any US cultural domination on Russia. Why are they so ignorant of the dangers?
Russian nationalists” will agree with all points, but this is only a rationalization. A very large part of the ” Russian nationalists “are embittered losers, and their alleged” nationalism ” is a cargo cult of European/American nationalism of the 19th and 20th centuries. These guys, for the purpose of psychotherapy, are engaged in cosplay, imagining themselves as powerful white Sahibs, with corresponding phobias. In reality, this is a bunch of freaks who should not be taken seriously (Anatoly Karlin who is a smart and adequate man but calls himself a Russian nationalist is a rare exception)
There are at least 5-7 distinct “factions” of Russian nationalists, which one in particular? https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/702785495047143424
More racialist/”Neo-Nazi” types, who have a strong “internationalist” white race identity, tend to be more pro-US, esp. those with Ukrainian sympathies. (In fact, some Azov fighters participated in the Hong Kong protests).
Liberal nationalists are obviously strongly pro-US.
“State nationalists”, who care more narrowly about Russian interests, tend to be neutral to positive on the relationship with China.
Not all of them, probably not even a majority, but sure more so than the Russian average.
Ergo.
I think there’s close to zero chance of the US becoming “friendly” to Russia so the question is moot. I also think China is much more likely to “win” this cold war.
Thank you melanf but will all respect, you are describing a one-dimensional caricature of what is a large and ideologically diverse ecosystem.
You have also drawn a caricature of nationalism. From your description, only ” State nationalists” can be considered nationalists, the rest is just a caricature
Discussions about Twitter nationalism (or to be honest, much of other Twitter politics) – I feel like we have entered a pale and emaciated part of samsara. Perhaps, Tibetans were referring to Twitter with their descriptions of a “Hungry Ghost Realm”, where pallid souls can wander desiring some kind of nutrition.
By the time we read Twitter – our internet browsing has become lost in a snippeded simulcra of simulcra of simulcra of simulcra of simulacra, (i.e. filtered through the minds of around 5 stupid people and limited in 280 characters) of what we read if we go to a real bookshop.
I don’t tweet, but somehow I think that you’ve probably correctly identified the whole process. 🙂
Internet political writing has degraded since Twitter has become prominent rather than the long-form blog. Even videos, which were bad to begin with, have got worse because of Tik-Tok, Instagram etc. I can’t conceive of worse formats, but I’m sure that the Jews and Indians of Silicon Valley and the Chines are currently working on them.
Nationalism has something of a human capital problem. Nationalists don’t exactly represent the best and the brightest in their respective societies. It’s unfortunate but nationalism doesn’t have much appeal to smart people these days.
And nationalism is something that is always going to attract a disproportionate number of knuckle-dragging racists.
I’m not attacking nationalism, merely pointing out one of the reasons it’s been so unsuccessful in recent times.
But the US is not.
The US elite wants to be the leading power in 21st century Asia.
Can’t have that as long as there is a rising power China which is capable of challenging and defeating the US there.
Figures like Anglin are in the minority in the Alt-Right, and their relative Sinophilia has more to do with their views on political economy than racialism. They tend to have an interest in Third Positionist economics and a more state directed economy like China’s, and see this model as competing against the neoliberal model of the US and most of the world.
The Right in general, from center-Right to the Far, Alt Right, seems to be Sinophobic to varying degrees and for various reasons. The center, neocon right – because it favors US power and hegemony. The normie, boomer cons – because “communism” and patriotard type reasons. The Christian Right – because “communism” and religious reasons. And a minority of figures like Anglin aside, the Alt Right in general seems to be Sinophobic for basic racialist reasons.
The mainstream center Left is also Sinophobic for roughly similar reasons as the Right, although its rhetoric is more subdued and it’s not overtly jingoistic. The center Left and “liberal internationalism” ultimately depend on US power and hegemony. The rise of China, regardless of China’s intentions or behavior, reduces the center Left/lib internationalist elite’s power and influence.
European nationalists and far right-wingers, especially younger ones, seem to be heavily influenced by and follow the trends and memes set by the American, English language based online Alt-Right subculture. So they tend to follow the American Nationalist/Alt-Right pro-America, Sinophobic line. Russian nationalists are a bit more isolated from US trends than Western Euro nats are, but the online ones do seem to be dialed into the Amnat/Alt-Right subculture and thus share similar pro-US/Sinophobic views.
I would add that, while the Right in general is uniformly Sinophobic, the Left is not.
While the center Left tends to be Sinophobic for the abovementioned reasons, the more far Left is either completely disinterested because it’s so focused on domestic politics and internal issues like racial, gender, homosexuality, etc. stuff, or it’s relatively non-Sinophobic out of anti-Americanism. And then there are the more socialist/communist elements of the far Left who are non-Sinophobic because of China’s at least nominal communism.
This is why I believe Anatoly’s suggestion that China should try to appeal to the Alt Right wouldn’t work. The Alt Right, and the Right in general, tends to be reflexively Sinophobic. Hostility to outgroups according to ethnic and racial considerations is the basis of its politics. It would work for Russia, since there are some in the Alt Right who identify with contemporary Russia on racial, relgious, cultural grounds. But this avenue is not open to China. I think the only option for China would be to try to appeal to elements of the far left.
Not as much as you think.
Remember that during the late Cold War the USA was on better terms with the more alien PRC than the European-run USSR.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
What’s the relevance of the opinions of Russian nationalists? They constitute a tiny slice of Russian population. Russians must be credited with remarkably widespread common sense. Even in the worst times (1990s), primitive tribal nationalism never got more than 10-12% support in the population. After Ukrainian example showed that primeval tribal nationalism can ruin any country in no time, the support for tribal nationalism in Russia dropped precipitously. As far as I can tell (not living in Russia, so my impressions should be taken with a grain of salt), prevailing worldview in Russia is imperial, not tribal. Human history suggests that that’s a step up.
This is indeed mind boggling to the Chinaman. There is a Chinese proverb that say the teeth will freeze If the lips are removed. What makes it difficult to understand that the enemy of my enemy is my friend? How low does one have to go to be obsequious to those that hate you ?
Hate and logical reasoning reside in different areas of the brain.
And besides, lower order creatures have always struggled at the latter.
If we want to challenge the US in all domains, which should be our strategic goal number 1, an alliance with China is the insurance we can do it. And a relationship between two modern states in the 21 century should go further than just stupidly selling oil . We need China as a science and industry partner and a source of finance, a possible military ally etc… It goes without saying, though ,that we should avoid being their vassals .
I wouldnt say that Russian nationalism is a tiny fraction of the population, although its true that Russian nationalism is not as self defeating and plain dumb as the ukrainian one. But its true that the Russian society right now is more patriotic and imperial than nationalistic. Sadly , our leaders are neither, they are just comprador neo liberals without strategic thinking. If Putin were a patriot, Ukraine and Belarus would already be Russian again and the economy would work for the people and for innovation, not for the rich .
Gotta disagree about Ukraine and Belarus. The last thing Russia needs is leaches. Sad thing is, every nation has the government it deserves. That’s pretty damning for Ukraine and Belarus. Donbass deserves to join Russia, but the rest deserve to live under the government they accepted.
Economy is a different matter. Putin’s faction is doing a lot of correct things there, but probably could have done more. But I don’t think it’s realistic to get rid of all oligarchs in Russia now. Nationalizing their property would not necessarily lead to the improvement of economic conditions for the majority. Previous Russian history shows that “take everything and divide” does not lead to prosperity. Putin is doing more for the country than any Russian leader since Stolypin.
Ethno-nationalism is not going to work in today’s globalized world because Nation-States pursue their political/economic interests globally, regardless of the ethnos of their rivals, clients, allies and markets. In many cases, geopolitical rivalries are worse for those Nation-States sharing the same ethnos, such as the case of the British Empire vs USA throughout the 19th century or Imperial Japan vs the Republic of China during WWII. The Cold War made even stranger bedfellows with Germany and Japan now allied with the USA against the Soviet Union which is now allied with communist Nation-States in Central Asia, North Asia, East Asia and Southeast Asia. The India-Pakistan rivalry also saw the USA siding with Pakistan while the Soviet Union allied with India.
Today, the NATO and EU expansion into Central and Eastern Europe pits the West against Russia despite the latter’s shared ethnos with White Slavic countries like Poland and the Baltic States. Against this Western expansionism, the Russian State has no choice but to seek clients, allies and markets outside Europe who don’t share the same ethnos as White Slavic Europeans. Within the EU, the BREXIT movement proves that ethno-nationalism could lead to a European Nation-State (UK) breaking off ties to Europe. Same with Trumpism which could lead to the withdrawal of the USA from the world.
White ethno-nationalists are modern tribalists just like their counterparts in the non-Western World as exemplified by the geopolitical rivalry between Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran which pits three Islamic States with different ethnos — Turkic, Arabic and Iranic — all vying for regional dominance in the Middle East. White ethno-nationalism could lead to the breakup of the West which is exactly what happened to Europe when Nazis gained power in Weimar Germany. Trumpism is the US version of White ethno-nationalism which could very well lead to the demise of the USA Empire.
White ethno-nationalists in the USA view the world with a racist lens: Whites vs non-Whites. But the world is a LOT more complex than just a simple binary.
Foreign policy wise, Trump’s admin is counter from what he campaigned on. Not so sure that his presidency will dramatically change in a second term scenario.
Forgive my minor quibble. A considerable (relatively recently imported) Slavic population notwithstanding (Latvia especially), the Baltic states are not Slavic.
[It could be argued that Estonia is neither Baltic nor Slavic.]
You’re absolutely right! My mistake. Estonia is Finnic as is Finland while Latvia and Lithuania are Baltic. They do have a large Slavic minority though. Here’s the demographic population of the three Baltic States, according to Wikipedia:
Baltic does refer to a geographical locale, which definitely includes Estonia, thereby explaining why it’s typically mentioned as a Baltic republic/former Soviet Baltic republic.
The other definition pertains to denoting, belonging to, or relating to a branch of the Indo-European family of languages consisting of Lithuanian, Latvian, and Old Prussian.
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=f-oeX-GdIMmrytMPqJ–0Ac&q=definition+of+baltic&oq=definition+of+baltic&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDDIHCAAQRhD5ATICCAAyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoFCAAQsQM6CwguELEDEMcBEKMCOgIILjoOCC4QsQMQxwEQowIQkwI6BQguELEDOg4ILhCxAxCDARDHARCjAjoICAAQsQMQgwE6CggAELEDEEYQ-QE6CAgAEBYQChAeUP8JWKwxYN5AaABwAHgAgAFXiAHBCJIBAjIwmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwih2aHt1-3qAhXJlXIEHaiPD3oQ4dUDCAg
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Uyghurs (in numbers) fight happily in ISIS forces in Syria and (now) Libya. They are as bad as it gets
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTmywKUecjpQvUj-hpNq21impKdUqmJrZdr3g&usqp.jpg
Belarus and Ukraine wont be leeches anymore if they are integrated inside Russia, they will become assets. More démography, more territory , more security for Russia.
Ukrainians dont deserve the fascist clique and the neo liberal / CIA related pawns that rules them, they were victims of a putsch . Bielorussians also don’t deserve the potatoe kolkhoznik tyrant that rules them. They just dont have a choice, as Russians dont have a choice right now since the only alternative to Putin is chaos.
Putin hasnt done anything for the last ten years , and wont be doing anything for the next ten as he just canceled his plan to reduce poverty and jump start the economy in Russia and postponed it to 2030 ( and in 2030 will probably delay it even further if he manages to make it to that date) . Nobody asks him to ” get rid of oligarchs ” but to put in place a system that favors consumption and investment over rent and speculation.
The Cold War over ? Have you been hibernating over the last 5 years ?
What Russia gains from challenging the US in all domains? Well things like sovereignty and prosperity. Who needs those things, except some evil Chinese who want to eat us ?
Being allies opens us the capacity to act as two great powers and not just one isolated and to maximize our chances to efficiently defend common interests. It’s the principle of alliances.
The whole world will be sensitive to Chinese political goals in the future. And it’s good for us because countries that depend more on China than on the US will be more friendly to us too and not put sanctions on us.
Yes, that’s why I referred to them as “Baltic States” as a geopolitical term:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states
Despite its geographical location in the Baltics, Estonia is Finno-Ugric in terms of its majority population speaking Estonian which is a Finno-Ugric language unlike Baltic or Slavic languages which are Indo-European languages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_countries#:~:text=Finno%2DUgric%20countries%20is%20a,and%20Hungary%20which%20is%20Magyar.
I have seen Russia after 1991 only three times: in 1998 (Moscow and Moscow region), 2015 (Moscow and Crimea), and 2018 (Moscow, Penza, Nizhny Novgorod), so I can’t judge changes year by year. However, it was a shithole in 1998, dirt and poverty everywhere. In 2015 and 2018 in was anything but. Moscow was cleaner and looked more magnificent than any European capital (I am comparing with quite a few: London, Paris, Berlin, Rome, Madrid, Wien, Lisbon, Prague), not to mention poorer places like Athens, Istanbul, Ankara, Budapest, Zagreb, or other European cities I visited over the years (too many to list them all). Roads between cities and streets in the cities were in better repair than in the last few years in the US. There were lots of people in restaurants, including fairly expensive ones, not only in Moscow, but also in provincial cities. My impression is that on average people in places I visited have higher living standards than residents of at least half of Europe, including many “old Europe” countries.
But I know that complaining is Russian national pastime. This was the case in the Russian Empire, USSR, and remains in RF. I know several very well off people in Russia who see complaining as their job. There a thing you learn in the US: you don’t complain, you put that energy into making an effort to achieve what you want. In the US your problems are considered your own fault. This is correct ~95% of the time.
As a general statement, this is correct. But I never hear what exactly is proposed instead of current policies. As an American saying puts it, talk is cheap. Running a McDonalds is harder than criticizing the whole Universe. Any specific suggestions?
I will say that what China has achieved in the military weapon systems sphere is comparable to what the Swedish and White South African Boers have accomplished, and there are only 8 million white Swedes and 2 million white boers, and 1.4 billion Chinese.
Powerful Take.
Thats why they should join the Security Council P5 instead of Germany and Japan.
What China did was hitch a ride on the world trade. They didn’t do anything else, they actually followed the rules we set. Kinda weird how we are now demonizing China for following the rules we set. Since 2012, we have actually been systematically destroying our rules in our attempts to stop China’s growth. From the Chinese chatter I have read, China is finally learning how USA works. Almost all their pro USA elements are getting purged.
Yes, I agree that groups don’t have to be similar to be allies or have shared interests, but I don’t think historical examples like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan are analogous to the current confrontation between the US and China.
Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were allied at the state level against other states, namely the Allied states. That’s not the case in the current situation between the US and China.
When two states directly conflict, they promote the interests of minorities in the opposing state to try to cause internal disruption for their opponent.
There were just goals, and some of the previous ones were unrealistic. For instance, getting life expectancy to 78 as early as 2024. https://www.rbc.ru/economics/21/07/2020/5f16add29a7947246d35b6c0