The Treaty of Trianon formally expired today, correcting one of the very greatest injustices of world history, which stranded three million ethnic Hungarians outside their country’s borders.
Worst day of every Hungarians’ life is now formally annulled!
Even as I write, reports are coming in that “Can’t Turban the Orban” has ordered his armored divisions to cross into R*mania, the Ukraine, Czechia, and Croatia to rebuild Greater Hungary.
All Hungarian males between the ages of 16 and 45 are required to report to their military commissariat forthwith.
The Turanian nations have expressed solidarity with the Hungarian cause and will be sending volunteers. My very high placed contacts in the Kremlin assure me that PUTLER is already prepared to issue a statement recognizing Hungary’s new borders.
This newly acquired Lebensraum will give Hungary the geoeconomic scope to launch its very own space program, which it needs to repatriate its people to the Sirius solar system which the Hungarians hail from.
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A greater Hungary would be landlocked with no access to the sea. They’d have more luck conquering the world with their culinary delights.
Technically Slovakia is not part of the Czech Republic anymore. Hungary does not border the Czechs.
They would if they took enough of Slovenia, Croatia or Romania.
Sorry reiner Tor.
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Isten hajlandó !
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That map of a carved up America makes me think what the best way is to break up America. The Mexican part is still correct, replace Japan with China, the South can become the neo confederacy, replace Great Britain with Russia. This is not even an extreme hypothetical anymore, America is increasingly become a threat to world stability, the lunatics there need to be constrained by the remaining sane world and broken up.
‘… the lunatics there need to be constrained by the remaining sane world and broken up.’
You’re already aping our ‘BLM’ ‘protests,’ so I’d say you’re too late.
We’ve won; sure as Latin America is still Hispanic.
Would you like pickles on your burger?
Alternatively, we could return Hungary to the Turks.
Spaceport is what matters. In the future, subs will be spaceships.
” has ordered his armored divisions to cross into R*mania, the Ukraine, Czechia, and Croatia to rebuild Greater Hungary”. Nice joke Karlin, but who would contemplate such a nonsense? The Kuhn affiliated communists were beaten decisively by the Czechoslovak army in 1919 and that was the end of the folly. Hungary would need a new Hitler in Germany to realize their territorial dreams.
Yes, hopes about undoing 1920 and restoring “Great Hungary” are from the outside seen as a joke.
And so are fevered dreams about undoing 1917 and 1991 and restoring “Great Russia”.
This have as much chance of happening as rebuilding “Great Hungarian Kingdom” and you know it.
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/sputnik-i-pogrom-big-russia.jpg
In our world, country with 150 million ppl is not “great” by any sensible definition, no matter how much frozen tundra and obsolete missiles it does have.
Realistically, future of Russia is one of Chinese Canada, selling oil, gas and water to the world’s only superpower. And there is nothing bad about it.
Maybe Putin could offer Magyars an aliyah to the Ingala valley?
I mean, that is their Urheimat.
That’s where the kurgans of their ancestors stand.
They could settle there closer to their Ugric kin, one of whom is Moscow’s mayor nowadays.
I am pretty certain president Orban would accept to become Orban Ist Duke of Ingala, lord of Tyumen.
As long as he is as loyal to Putin as Kadyrov is in Chechnya, I don’t think Russians would mind at all giving that part of their country to him.
That way Magyars would come back to their heroic roots, all territory problems would be peacefully solved and Panonia could be given back to the Slavs…
Did an Hungarian-American association draw the comparative Trianon pamphlet?
I thought “Nigger” was informal/spoken English and for proper written English only “Negro” was used?
I, for one, look forward to the Magyar Century.
I think it is meant to be vernacular – to reach out to the common man, but the word “nigger” actually did not have too much opprobrium for white Americans at that time, and was often printed as vernacular or dialogue. My grandfather knew a guy nicknamed “Nigger Jim” (not a black), and that was printed in his high school yearbook, a few years after 1920.
Same was the case in England, probably even more so, Agatha Christie wrote a book originally titled Ten Little Niggers. Numerous people had black dogs named “Nigger.” For example, see the 1955 movie Dam Busters based on a true story. There was cloth that one could buy called “nigger brown.”
BTW, where can I sign up for the Trianon division of America? In 1920, it must have seemed like a really bad deal, but, in the current year, it actually seems pretty attractive to me, assuming Britain offloads its blacks and Indians into the nigger state, and core-America becomes a white ethno-state. In fact, I would be tempted to trade Washington, DC temporarily to the Nigger state, in exchange for part of Florida. Only the Southern part for rocket launches, military bases, and alligator meat – I would let the blacks have Disney World and its natural malaria reservoirs, for awhile, as a tribute to globohomo.
I see what you mean, by “informal” what I meant is that I thought it was similar to how people don’t usually write “ain’t” unless they are being colloquial, even if they may use it verbally.
The map reminds me, is the timed census constitutionally mandated or merely congressional law? It will probably be hard to hold it this year.
Stupid
There is one problem with your Ingala idea , the Hungarians never been there .
The Hungarians were the greatest horseman of the middle ages , you slavs should know that because they beat a crap out of you slavs all the time .
The area of Ingala you talking about is all mountain ,and six month winter . The worst place for horse riding , and there are no horses . ooops.
It really comes down how much of stomach you have for this? How many deaths would you be willing to accept to achieve this, I can’t see this being anything less than a 50 million death toll (because unlike the USSR the people in power will not give up power easily), but this could easily go into the billions as I have no doubt that there would be some that will want to drag the entire world down with them to save their regime.
No such thing and never was. You’ve been duped by the media spin conglomerate.
One of the opportunities the EU missed, is allowing a lot of separatism for all the small ethnic areas, like the Hungarian enclave in Romania, and creating an EU of 45-60 countries instead of 27 or so
In theory with the EU, the big nations were not needed anymore, and the EU-crats, could have used the UN Charter ‘right of self-determination’ as a clever lever to make themselves the one big government this side of Russia
In other geo-political LARPing, 4chan is having a lot of fun with the Steve Bannon project of a coup in China, replacing the CCP with an EU-style ‘Chinese Federation’ represented by this girl
https://i.ibb.co/mzXvPhn/china-federation-girl.jpg
By Chinese federation I assume that implies Tibet, Xinjian and China proper, what other parts would there be?
It is delusional to fantasise about launching a coup against the most powerful state in the world when cities in America are currently on fire.
If people have to fantasise about something, it should be about something cool like launching crusades to reconquer the Holy Land and Constantinople, rather than gay and neoliberal.
Realizing Greater Russia ambition does not require us to become a dominant force globally. We are not in any rivalry with Brazil or Pakistan. Regional domination is sufficient, and by many metrics Russia is already there.
Russia is towering over the Ukraine economically and demographically, as this territory is rapidly reverting to its past of being an empty, “wild” space.
Syldavia had a space program and sent men and a dog to the moon in an oversized V2.
Borduria was its main foe due to historical rivalry.
One of those two must be Hungary.
Always had a fondness for Magyardom: the wines, cuisine, proud people, chess and that city on the Danube that retained the look and spirit of the turn of the (previous) century.
If my (temporary) linguistic disability is tolerated and perhaps if the expanded empire does something to tackle the too prevalent porn industry, then count me in.
Arthur Koestler would have approved.
More wishful thinking.
Ukraine is more densely populated than European Russia and Belarus:
https://nordregio.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Population_density_Nordic_2015.png
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Maybe Mr Putin could offer the Magyars Scotland. The Brits don’t have the capacity to resist (they’re all under house arrest) and in any event, Mr Johnson might welcome the opportunity of seeding that polluted polity with more liberty loving and tolerant culture than the one exemplified by Nicola Sturgeon’s quasi-totalitarian SNP.
“Can’t Turban the Orban”, lol!
Ukraine’s population has been shrinking at a remarkable rate for years AP, and your statement does not contradict his, it merely introduces a red herring.
Russia’s population seems to have grown, but it is difficult to tell for certain, given that some of the growth may come from illegal immigration.
Borduria is probably inspired by Ukraine.
It was the “border land” between Muscovy and Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Okraina = Ukraina = Border land = Borduria
But of course both Syldavia and Borduria are just Hergé making good fun of irresentist Balkanic rivalries.
The statement is quite strange, since the Hungarians who invaded Western Russia were first defeated by Prince Mstislav the Lucky in 1221 and 1226, and then (in a new invasion) were again completely defeated in the battle of Yaroslavl in 1245
Nah it wouldn’t work, Magyars are horsemen, they will not settle on an island, they need more open space.
South American pampa might be the right place to achieve the full flourishing of the Magyar civilization.
Central Europe is too small and too crowded for these Noble People!
In fact compared to other steppe dwellers, ancient Rus got along rather well with Magyars.
And Church Slavonic was the official language of Magyar Kingdom for a rather long time.
A significant part of modern Magyars are probably assimilated Slavs.
They are more than 50% Y haplogroup R1a.
Yaroslavl? Well, at least they beat Napoleon by some 200 km, not to mention the other contestants. 😀
Never happened. Kun withdrew the troops after being offered international recognition, the end of the trade blockade, and the withdrawal of Romanian troops from the eastern parts of the country to a demarcation line roughly at the later border. Now after he withdrew his troops, he recognized that he had been duped, because neither the international recognition, nor the Romanian troop withdrawal were forthcoming, so he ordered an offensive against the Romanian troops. However, by that time the Hungarian troops were demoralized due to having given up the areas captured by blood (remember, the soldiers weren’t serving him for the communism…), and so the Red Army just disintegrated. This then resulted in the Romanian troops walking into Budapest without encountering resistance.
So where did you get the idea of the Czech troops beating the Hungarian Red Army?
Acela Corridor and LA become part of Greater Israel.
P.S.
Lol. They don’t write propaganda like they used to.
Genetically speaking, Hungarians are very close to their neighbors, especially perhaps West Slavs like Slovaks. Only traces of the original Magyar tribes can be seen in present day Hungarian genetic samples.
Therefore, it’s not very precise language to talk about “the kurgans of their ancestors.”
Oh, I see, it was Yaroslav that’s currently in SE Poland. Suspected I had missed something.
Really we should stop calling all these settlements from the end of WWI “treaties”. That implies a volitional consensus they did not possess.
What would be a more accurate name?
Disagree. Those cities are the seats of neoliberal power. That they are currently burning in an epic own-goal of blue-on-blue dogfighting is the golden opportunity for red America to cordon them off as the irrelevancies they are and to return to its isolationist heritage.
Those are good too.
Those expeditions were of secondary importance. Many Hungarian kings tried to get the throne of Halych, and Béla IV was no exception. This being shortly after 1241 (the year the Mongols temporarily conquered Hungary, leaving behind untold destruction), the motivation was clearly to strengthen the eastern borders against a Mongol attack. Because both countries had just been devastated by the Mongol attack, probably it was a bit like a fight between two cripples anyway.
A few years later the Hungarian King Béla IV married off one of his daughters to the Halych prince. (Because she was given a large estate consisting of a couple counties next to the border, Ukrainian Wikipedia claims Subcarpathia as having been a “part of Ukraine” during that period.) Béla IV is considered one of the greatest Hungarian kings, because he reorganized the kingdom after the Mongol devastation. This Halych campaign was one of his few military adventures.
“Auntology” is the idea likely embraced by such adherents, named after its founder: the basic idea is that China proper as an unitary state is too large and too broad for the Han to develop the appropriate thymos(and the Han therefore as basically living dead people); the Han are therefore a fellaheen “slave people” past its greatness.
The only way to emerge from this is to undergo ethnogenesis again by destroying the concept of China as an unitary state, recreating small Han-descended states, and hoping that the revived and separated people will then be able to regain its spark of greatness.
Each of the cultural provinces, in that sense, would probably be its own state.
https://u.osu.edu/mclc/2019/03/14/chinas-intellectual-dark-web/
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I agree with most of your points, but I don’t think Church Slavonic was ever official in Hungary. Already in the 11th century we have Latin (and a few Hungarian words here and there start to appear very quickly, implying that many monks or scribes were Magyar speakers).
I will talk to my medieval historian acquaintances about this.
Maybe Essex should be given to Hungary as compensation for the role that Robert Eracles, a renegade man of Essex, played in the Mongol invasion of Hungary?
Sure, but @csucsu’s statement
“The Hungarians were the greatest horseman of the middle ages , you slavs should know that because they beat a crap out of you slavs all the time .”
doesn’t fit the facts, to put it mildly
The name is indeed synonymous to that of Ukraine, but then there also is Kraina in Croatia (previously ruled by the Hungarians); The Scottish Borders come to mind too, although in name only.
Of course in Hergé’s day not much thought was given to Ukraine as to a separate state, let alone an aggressive one.
Perhaps the thought that one of the two must have been Hungary occurred to me because they were portrayed as kind of landlocked, monarchical and authoritarian, that the technology was German and that the languages were made up and appearing so unintelligible to my ear that I was left to conclude that the one non-Indo-European in the region must have inspired it.
Glad to find a fellow reader of continental picture books here. Any thoughts about Khemed and San Teodoro?
That whole map is hilarious. I find Manchuria especially funny, given that a Chinese I’ve spoken to from there became personally insulted when I innocently referred to it as such. The opposite of regional sentiment.
It’s in the constitution, though they are now counting illegals to use for apportionment, by court decision. Covid-19 has definitely impacted the process and planned deadlines. I’m not too familiar with the complete methodology, but I suspect that they use welfare rolls, where they don’t get direct responses. TBH, I’m much more interested in the 2021 census of the UK – there’s a lot of speculation that it will be the last census there, as proof of demographic changes would enrage any rational native.
You are right, instead of “official ” I should have written “widely used”.
The population was more or less bilingual for a couple of centuries after the Magyar conquest.
Slavonic was discarded as the peasantry massively adopted hungarian and the position of the Roman Catholic Church became stronger, while the Moravian Orthodox Church became weaker in the modern day Hungary.
Regarding Rus relation with Ugry (as the Magyar were called by the Rus), anong the first martyrs of the Russian Orthodox church were princes Boris and Gleb along one of their retainers, named George the Hungarian.
Moreover, the daughter of Jaroslaw the Wise married king Andrew the White (Bela).
We should remember that nationalism is fairly recent as a phenomenon.
Sure. Hungarians were in general similar to their neighbors. The Czechs might’ve been even better during the late Middle Ages and the beginning of Early Modernity, until they were decisively crushed and their martial quality declined. Overall perhaps not much difference between the Hungarians and the Slavs.
This means Romania gets to be neighbors with Austria again. Another handful of centuries without Hungary. So sad. Hungarians were so much easier to subdue, compared with the Austrians.
You are absolutely correct.
Modern day Magyars are a Central European people, just like their Slavic neighbors.
The difference is linguistic and cultural, not genetic.
It is possible that the Magyar warrior elite that conquered Panonia was tiny in comparison to the numbers of the conquered Slav peasants.
Another possibility is that Magyar people were already substantially Y haologroup R1a when they reached modern day Hungary.
Already the proto Ugric samples from Siberia show a certain amount of R1a among elite burials, although haplogroup N is dominant there.
The proportions might have gradually shifted towards R1a in the last 1500 years since ancestors of Magyars left Tyumen region in their migration towards the South West.
BTW the Western European dominant haplogroup Y has also roots extending all the way to the Siberia and Urals with Yamnaya culture.
There’s nothing wrong about being of Siberian ancestry.
Siberian populations conquered western Europe, both Americas and a major part of Asia.
According to Ukrainian Wikipedia, the Galician prince Lev (after whom Lviv is named) married Constance of Hungary in 1247 or 1252, before he ascended the throne. Subcarpathia was taken either when Lev and his Tatar allies went to war against Hungary in the 1280s or in 1299. It was lost to Hungary by Lev’s successor.
King Andrew also spent a good many years of his youth serving at and obtaining his education at the Kyivan court of the Great Prince Yaroslav the Wise, undoubtedly one of the greatest and most dazzling courts in all of Europe. The Great Prince’s daughter, Anastasia, arrived in Hungary very well supported by a large number of Ruthenian guards and Orthodox churchmen. The Byzantine Rite, of course, was Hungary’s first choice upon accepting Christianity, later came Catholicism from the West.
It’s one of the interesting ironies of history that the reason Calvinism is traditionally predominant in eastern Hungary (including Transylvania) is because Ottoman rule shielded them from the Counter-Reformation.
‘Really we should stop calling all these settlements from the end of WWI “treaties”. That implies a volitional consensus they did not possess.’
Aren’t most treaties less than perfectly volitional? Those that are would be more the exception than the rule. Russia didn’t sign the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk because she felt that was a fair settlement of her differences with Imperial Germany, and it wasn’t the Cherokees’ idea that Oklahoma would suit them better than Northern Georgia.
Hmmm … I thought I was reading The Onion, at least until I got to the comments.
A side note of these maps, particularly the top Nordregio map, is how depopulated are most of the areas that were the subject of such bitter fighting in the 20th century. For instance, you can still almost see the outline of pre-war Germany in the empty space of western Poland (except Breslau/Wrocław). Similarly, except for Lviv/Lvov, what used to be eastern Poland doesn’t look like the USSR/Belarus/Ukraine got much use out of it either. Likewise, Savoy, Provence and Corsica hardly look worth the trouble of Italy’s grabbing all that emptiness. The Sudentenland looks pretty bare from 600 miles up, too. And most of the Yugoslav campaign looks like wasted effort for both Germany and Italy. OTOH, one can see why Hitler would sacrifice empty and rugged South Tyrol to keep Mussolini on side. Also OTOH, the grainfields of the Ukraine certainly do beckon, especially knowing that the oil fields of the Caucasus lie just beyond.
Obviously, besides the fighting, some of these areas were subject to various forms of democide and ethnic cleansing. So maybe I’ve got the cart before the horse here, and it was the war that made these places into wastelands? Or were Pomerania, Silesia and East Prussia always kind of empty? If so, it makes Hitler’s bloody quest for Lebensraum in the East look even more foolish if Germany already had plenty of unused Lebensraum within its borders. I know that during the war, the Hitler regime had an embarrassing amount of trouble recruiting colonists for the “new” territories in the East, but there might be other reasons for that besides that land was not actually so scarce inside the Reich.
As a counter-example, I would offer the Treaty of Westphalia. It was reached mainly by mutual consent among great powers rather than by a momentary victor dictating terms to a prostrate loser. Its principles, if not its precise borders, still underpin diplomacy today.
By contrast the WWI treaties were mostly overruled by history with a startling rapidity.
Other treaties by mutual consent of great powers, more or less cheerfully observed by all participants: SALT, START, the Washington Naval Treaty.
The Cherokee you mention kind of prove my point. Even though they were technically moving under the “Treaty” of New Echota, the deal was so one-sided that hardly anyone remembers that anymore. Instead everyone says, “Trail of Tears”.
https://youtu.be/6vq3wOgDb2s
you desperately need a language lesson
‘As a counter-example, I would offer the Treaty of Westphalia. It was reached mainly by mutual consent among great powers rather than by a momentary victor dictating terms to a prostrate loser. Its principles, if not its precise borders, still underpin diplomacy today.’
To counter your counter-examples, though, there are treaties where the momentary victor dictates terms to the prostrate loser, and the treaty lasts; our treaty with Mexico in 1848 comes to mind, as does Turkey’s treaty with Greece in 1923 (?), and our treaty with Japan in 1950.
Here, common elements seem to be that (a) the terms are tolerable, and (b) they accord with the long-term realities of the situation as well as the immediate circumstances. Obviously, the United States was rapidly becoming far more powerful than Mexico, and in point of fact, we were swiftly populating the lands in question, which Mexico had left more or less empty. A Turkish state ruling Anatolia was inevitably going to be more powerful than a Greek state ruling the toe of the Balkan peninsula. Conversely, the Treaty of Versailles was never going to hold; Germany simply was not going to be content to remain a minor power.
In any case, the term treaty quite reasonably applies both to agreements freely reached between equals and those dictated by triumphant winners to prostrate losers. The Treaty of Trianon may well have been inequitable, and may even prove unsustainable — but it remains perfectly accurate to describe it as a ‘treaty.’ Treaties are of that kind as well of the type exemplified by the Treaty of Westphalia.
Meanwhile in Red China :
https://twitter.com/HapaGawd/status/1268367612745940992?s=20
It directly contradicts the claim that Ukraine is “an empty field” – despite Ukraine’s shrinking population it is less empty than either Belarus or European Russia.
Okay, but those would seem to exemplify what I was originally describing (decisive victors dictating terms to the vanquished), because no one thinks of those as “treaty” resolutions. They’re just “victories”. Most Americans, or even Japanese, for example,don’t know there was a treaty ending WWII. We just think they signed the surrender document on the battleship and that was that.
I generally agree with your description of what makes a successful treaty. To put it more briefly, a successful describes a stable long term reality. A lot of the WWI treaties did not.
They really didn’t, Wages of Destruction gives a good explanation in, I think… Chapter 6?
I think part of the points that are used to cite illegitimacy of the Paris Peace Treaties are that the former Central Powers were merely allowed to send an observing representative to accept the terms (hence a “Diktat”), whereas usually at least the defeated power is allowed to send a diplomat to negotiate the terms.
I would still call it a treaty however, I don’t think another word would catch on.
Sorry but my point was that Hungarian is the most different language in the region and is so classified (as non-Indo-European) by most historians, linguistic experts etc.
I understand Germanic, Romance and Slavic and It is obviously none of those and thus to my in-Magyarised ear, the fictional languages of the Bordurians and Syldavians -although totally gibberish and made up- could be explained by standing in for Hungarian. I did not say that they were Hungarian.
Now you suggest a language lesson and link a video with Sumerians, Pyramids etc. I don’t know about that but I’m not a big fan of Fomenko, Atlantis, Wakanda, Ancient Aliens and the whole We wuz kangz gig.
The tangible things that I got from it are that Hungarian is related to what the Huns spoke which is logical since Panonia bears their name; that it is related to Irish Gaelic comes as no surprise either as in olden times what we call Celts lived over a big area of Europe: there are Galicias in both Spain and Ukraine after all as there is a Galatia in Anatolia, Hallstatt, Pays de Galles, Portugal etc. So some traces of Celtic may have found their way to Hungarian, as did Germanic, Romance and Slavic.
Of course Hergé’s world is fictional but he wouldn’t have chosen a made up language to stand in for Germanic, Romance or Slavic as he spoke the two former (being a Bruxelois, he spoke French as well as the then local brand of Flemish) and must have been familiar with the latter as the first Tintin adventure was set in Soviet Russia.
How about that lesson then?
your grade is F minus
Is that F in the Sumerian cuneiform writing system and if so, does the minus come before or after it?
Some Ukrainian Svidomi historians have tried to make Attila one of their own. Perhaps Hungarians and Ukrainians are actually brothers divided by the Carpathians? 🙂
The F minus grade is on your unintelligible giberis language so you can grasp it .
I am able to judge your unintelligible language because I understand it . It is a language of the world today , but sounds like you talking and chewing the same time . Your language was completely different five hundred years ago , today you wouldn’t understand it et all .
It is influenced and sowed together by other languages / Latin , Germanic etc. /
And today your language is being murdered with new influences /jo jo jo yu no wat I cayin yall/
There is no way you can understand it just a hundred years from now . This is not my judgement
just an observation . You can fact check it, the Hungarian language is the first who has been able to preserve 68 percent of it’s originality . The English preserved 5 percent of it’s originality. International group of linguist determined this , it is not my idea . As for the Ukraine , there is a google map you can fact check . DNA map of Europe , it is
color coded closer the color , closer the DNA affinity .
Really? Why is Russia in Syria and Lybia?
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1268618343965048835
https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1269183718070972417
https://twitter.com/ddsgf9876/status/1268821065842733056
Why are Russian mercenaries all over Africa? Why is Russia still subsidizing Cuba, Venezuela and other shitholes? All these are in “Russian region”?
Nationalisms tend to nationalise personalities and events: A bunch of places claim Columbus, Germans and Poles claim Copernicus, Skopje airport bears the name of Alexander the Great and a bunch of famous Americans descended from 19th century pale of settlement shtetls would be surprised to learn that they are counted as famous Lithuanians or Ukrainians. Hell, even Beethoven is claimed to be Sub-Saharan…
As to the brotherhood of nations, sure, why not? At least as long as they don’t fight each other, which happens to all at a certain point and which inevitably puts a hold on the brotherhood.
Commenter Couscous may know more about that Attila business as he seems to be well acquainted with the mysteries of the past….
Now that I think about it, there is some semblance between the Hungarian Goulash and the Maghrebian Couscous sauce.
Maybe this is due to the migration of the Vandals and Alans from Eastern Europe all the way to modern day Kabylia?
Their paths might have crossed those of proto Magyars somewhere along the way.
I can picture them sitting around fires together, their horses grazing peacefully nearby, mighty warriors exchanging culinary recipes.
Another mystery of the past.
You are unfortunately right.
Russian corporate elites/oligarchs and deep state /siloviky copy-paste their American colleagues on a smaller scale.
It would be much better if they renounced all geopolitical games and centered on the needs of Russian population.
I wish to live long enough to see Russia announcing three things:
1) We will be forever neutral and peaceful never more fighting in other people’s wars.
2) All people with Slavic roots are welcome to move here.
3) If someone attacks us or harms our interests we will nuke the living sh*t out of them.
That strategy applied for a couple of generations and Russia will become a quite decent country.
My bad. Those words consisting of two identical syllables… And food, of course.
Couscous is the rolled semolina that gets steamed, but it does come with a sauce, which resembles goulash. What sauces did all these people have before the discovery of the New World?
The paths must indeed have crossed; quite a few pairs of blue eyes in the Atlas and the dances, clothes and artefacts there resemble those in the Caucasus where the Alans originate (Ossetians and Ingush have a feud on who their real descendants are); also the constant burning vehicles in Paris’ suburbs and other acts of vandalism are proof of the Germanic Vandal descent of the arsonists 🙂
Magyars and Khazars were once neighbours and got on quite well; Barbary too had a queen and many tribes of the Mosaic persuasion.
Both lands were ruled by the Turks at the same time; later there was this whole Rommel and English patient thing.
So, food, horses and warriors; and words too sometimes.
I read a Ukrainian Wikipedia article on the subject a year or two ago. Perhaps I misremember.
In 1285 the Tatars attacked (it’s called the second Tatar invasion in Hungarian historiography, the first being the Mongol invasion of Batu Khan in 1241-42), but were defeated, Lev is not mentioned in the sources I read. What is sure is that the Tatars came through Subcarpathia, and were thoroughly defeated, fleeing through Transylvania. (Maybe in more detailed works more is written, unfortunately a successful defense is not very interesting, so way more research goes into the defeat in 1241. Which was always more interesting to me as well.) In 1301 an interregnum started in Hungary, with the extinction of the Árpád dynasty, so 1299 looks more likely, but the area is thought to belong to local warlord Amadé Aba during that period, which was ended by the new king Charles I after 1311.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Kiskirályok_uralmi_területei.jpg
I’ll ask my medieval historian acquaintances about the issue. Can you tell me which article exactly you were looking at? For example I found this (no citation):
The Congress of Vienna resulted in a series of treaties, where the defeated French could retain their status as a great power. It’s interesting that then they started the war against Prussia in 1870, which they lost, and while weren’t treated with kid gloves, the peace treaty wasn’t exceptionally harsh either. Still, in 1918 they were extremely vindictive against Germany, after having received such generosity a century earlier.
Anyway, I think it’s mostly called the Trianon peace treaty in Hungarian either, though occasionally they use other words, like coerced treaty, or dictate, but usually the more neutral term is preferred in historiography.
That’s a popular idea on the nationalist right in Hungary, but it’s not accepted in scientific circles. What is at least possible is that some of the Magyar tribes were descendants of some Hun tribes, or perhaps the early Magyar princes were descendants of the Hun kings.
Putin believes that he benefits politically from the perception of Russia as a global superpower, this is why we have troops in Syria and mercenaries in Africa. Russia gets to look powerful, and Putin gets to look like an important person. The mercenaries do useful work and get paid by local warlords, so this form of power projection actually pays for itself.
Putin does NOT believe in the Greater Russia ambition, otherwise he would have taken Belarus already.
What does it mean,exactly?
Look at where Romania is positioned on the American map. And how you should spell that word.