From a world-historical perspective, the bald syphilitic gave Germany a second chance at European (and world) domination. Which they screwed up, to be sure… but they couldn’t have even made a go of it otherwise.
By nullifying half of Russia’s potential population even just within its current borders, and the vast bulk of its potential GDP, he also ensured that Russia would not come to demographically, and later economically, dominate Germany.
If there’s one country that should plaster all its public spaces with Lenin statues it is Germany.
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Germans are a bunch of cucks. They love Marxism-Leninism.
Or maybe all modern whites are cucks. Also Seattle has a Lenin statue, and they also love Marxism-Leninism.
At least I guess it’s better than that statue of the black woman they put in Denmark.
https://www.ebony.com/news/a-rebel-queen-gets-her-due-denmark-gets-first-public-statue-of-black-woman/
https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/first-black-woman-monument-in-copenhagen/
https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/120418-Inuaguration-I-Am-Queen-Mary-photo-by-Thorsten-Altmann-Krueger-696×522.jpg
Marxism is part of the cultural heritage of Germany, developed there by two minds — Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and based on the German Socialism, which is as old as the Germanic peoples themselves.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/25121623?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents
The entire Asiatic world was cucked by Germanic Communism, with over 100 million Asiatic ragdoll corpses churned out by the hammer and sickle in just a few decades.
Today the Asiatics still worship and revere their Germanic God Friedrich Engels.
https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/dfb40e083f6fd0b17b1ee59f51a966ea/gpt-dfal0442.jpg
RE: Lenin and based Russkies
Mark 6:4
But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
There are certain topics where Karlyn’s logical faculties simply shut down.
But Lenin was not exactly a typical Russian, he was a Jew. As was Marx, as was Trotski. They were all Jews. Even the Jerusalem Post admits it:
https://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Was-the-Russian-Revolution-Jewish-514323
From the article:
Jews are natural born activists. I don’t think they even care about the cause, as long as it disturbs peace and quietness, it’s all good. [That said there were a lot of Russian communists, but the main leadership was Jewish, no doubt about it.]
It would be better for Germany to spend money on its own architectural heritage. Germany would be the most beautiful country in the world (in terms of architecture) if it were not for the Alliance of British bombers and modernist architects. Here’s a film about the lost Cologne – it’s very sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAoEnUotOc&feature=youtu.be
Anything which is remotely conntected to Germany shortcircuits his brain … poor sod.
The Germans in 1917 fought not for world domination, they fought for sheer survival.
The Russian elites were bought and paid for by british agents. Read up on Rasputin’s murder.
The Russian elites paid dearly for their corruption.
The Russian people paid even more dearly.
As did the Germans.
As long as Russians and Germans get along with each other, they prosper. If not, not.
The world would be a much better place if Germany had won WWI. Russia had everything that happened to it in 1917+ coming for starting the war against peace-loving Germany with the rest of the Entente.
Heil dir im Siegerkranz, Herrscher des Vaterlandes! Heil, Kaiser, dir!
If you want to go further in this direction, Israel should raise a statue to the man who made the creation of the state of Israel possible and made antisemitism look bad to most of the West for 75 years, helping to ensure Israel’s survival.
As a plus, he also did more to make America great for about 60 years by making sure we got all of his country’s best scientists and starting a war that wrecked every other country in the world.
You know, the guy with the small mustache.
Exactly. Like the rape of Belgium and the participation in the Armenian ethnocide.
When it comes to finding excuses, no one gets as good as Germans.
That the German military briefly backed the Bolsheviks to weaken Imperial Russia and pressure her to make peace is in fact true. During the increasingly desperate war, with mounting immiseration and starvation at home, they were willing to grasp at any straw to break the stranglehold of the Entente.
Of course, they also had no idea he would actually be successful in taking over. The moment they realized what was happening, they started planning to remove the Bolsheviks from power as soon as the war was over, and reinstall the Romanov monarchy. Monarchist German generals had no use for Communist crazies ruling a big country. Even overlooking issues of morality, the Marxist lunacy might prove contagious — as in fact it did in the period circa 1918-1924, when Communist almost took over Germany as well, and were stopped only by people like Corporal Hitler literally beating them down with clubs and bayonets in the streets.
Lenin, of course, never felt beholden to the Germans in any way. He just exploited their assistance, in accord with the expression about “useful idiots” which he is said to have coined. The actual backers of the Communists, who agreed with their aim of destroying Christian Russia and later helped loot its treasures, were mostly of non-Germanic stock, and internationally distributed throughout the world. Some were seemingly motivated by honest Communist convictions, others mainly by ethnic resentments. The most famous names among them are probably those of Olaf Aschberg (Stockholm, Sweden) and Jacob Schiff (New York City).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Aschberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff
For the story of the plunder of Russia’s national wealth, the greatest theft and money-laundering scheme of all time, see “History’s Greatest Heist: The Looting of Russia by the Bolsheviks” by Sean McMeekin.
The funny thing is I am not even making any sort of “anti-German” point.
Can somebody actually answer why they should not absolutely legitimately carpet themselves with Lenin statues?
Objectively, only Bismarck did more for maximizing German relative power in modern history.
You are projecting your historical sour grapes here in a really bizarre fashion. The people erecting that statue are a communist fringe group, and possibly therefore Russophiles. Their outlook and motivations are most likely the polar opposite to that of any genuine German nationalist.
I’m actually not opposed to putting up statues of commies, if it is done tastefully.
Like, if people are encouraged to feed pigeons nearby, and the whole avenue is named “Pfad of the Scoundrels, Cucks, and Traitors” or some such formula, and they save a place for Merkel. It could be used to teach history, and serve as a possible disincentive for badly-behaving pols.
There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with monumentalism as long as you control the process. What are those insane cobblestone plaques that they have like 150,000 of in Germany? We should do the same but to mark the location of the tragedy of anytime a European was raped, murdered, robbed, harassed, or attacked by blackamoors.
I’m not sure what the best word to call them in German would be, but I am fond of Anglicisms, so I would suggest Diversitätsteine.
In the former GDR, at least, I think the symbolism (as intended in this post) would probably be misunderstood. There, more recent historical associations point in another direction.
It’s the germans, the georgians, the estonians and the chinese collies. Who else are you going to keep blaming?
There are only 2 options:
1. Russians created bolshevism and then they got burned by it, so they only have themselves to blame for it.
2. Russians are so stupid they get controlled all the time even by tiny, loser conquered nations like estonians and georgians.
You go for no.2 and sounds plausible to me given that even tsarist russia at its height was controlled by a tiny number of baltic germans and by a german dynasty which was russian only in name.
Not a very honorable option though. A giant nation that keeps falling under the control of any loser is not worthy of respect.
Thanks, that movie actually makes me appreciate the real Köln even more. I like the 1950s/60s Wirtschaftswunder architecture, that is the West Germany I grew up with. The „lost Köln“ just looks like another Vienna or Strasburg. The war may have given Köln a scarred face but in a funny way a far more interesting and original face.
The architecture is not the problem in modern West German cities – it is the ethnic changes.
Well, I can certainly see your logic.
However, as the City of London [financial district] was where Marx’s 1848 ‘manifesto’ was first published, with communist revolution then ‘breaking out spontaneously’ almost immediately across much of Europe, and future British prime ministers Disraeli and Palmerston both indicating foreknowledge of this seminal event in writing, and with Lenin following closely in Marx’s footsteps making multiple pilgrimages to London earlier in his life, wouldn’t it perhaps make even more sense if Lenin and Marx’s statues were both ‘plastered’ all over London and England, where the dream began, to honor them as ‘agents’ of the British Empire? Oh, wait…
..well, it’s a start, but only a start. 😉
https://fotostrasse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/The-Only-Statue-of-Lenin-in-London-04.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Karlmarxtomb.jpg/800px-Karlmarxtomb.jpg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Karl_Marx#/media/File%3AKarlmarxtomb.jpg
https://fotostrasse.com/statue-of-lenin-in-london/#.XmVCmMlOk0M
You make a good point, ak.
It’s not like the Germans are putting up monuments to honor Kurt von Schleicher.
The monument to Lenin is already leading people to discuss how things got to be the way that they are, which is a positive development.
I agree.
It’s funny, and perhaps a symptom of some sort of pathology, how some Germans put the Wilhelmine period on a pedestal.
Weak comparison
Lenin didn’t genocide millions of Germans, in fact he sabotaged and utterly crippled the greatest enemy of the Germanics
Germany today has no shot at world domination but it sure has one at European domination
How are those points even connected
Russians obviously weren’t the masterminds behind the ideology Bolshevism and Bolshevik control didn’t come from the ignorance of the Russians but through systemic brutality
Anatolij, here is real diffrence between west and east European. West need to FEEL good about them. Of course, Lenin can not be connected to them, because he was BAD. And most of the death are Russians, so what. It is the same with other topics. I would not be suprise if somebody told us, that Russian wanted to be slaughtered.
Rudi approves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_Dutschke
No one besides you is retarded enough to believe that communism is equivalent to the various historic German conceptions of “socialism.”
Exactly. They are fringe of the fringe, marginal even on German hard leftist scene.
No idea why the media suddenly decided to give them world wide publicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist_Party_of_Germany
https://www.mlpd.de
Nope, they are consistent Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Maoists who know that socialism lost and capitalism won in USSR in 1956 and in China in 1976.
The MLPD describes the political and economic changes in most of the Eastern European countries after the 20th Party Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union as treason to socialism. From 1976, when the economic changes provided by Deng Xiaoping were taking place, the MLPD’s predecessor organizations criticized those changes as China’s restoration of capitalism.
Putin is, for them, just another capitalist and imperialist pig 😉
https://www.mlpd.de/2018/kw44/schulungsarbeit-mit-putin-texten
Finding excuses, huh?
I’m pretty sure the Allies were the ones who found excuse-making to be the greatest habit of all. I’ve read plenty of American history from the period 1933-1945 – no one, and I mean no one, makes excuses for things like the Anglo-American imperialist. To this day neocon and neoliberals deny that Dresden was a war crime!
The last World War One book I read was Sean McMeekin’s rather interesting ‘The Russian Origins of the First World War.’
The funny thing about McMeekin, particular in his little book on the Russian Revolution is that, while he blames the Germans for sending Lenin to Russia as an agent, he rather obliquely references the fact that Kerensky, Sazonov, et al, were all Freemasons.
It is rare for a mainstream historian to mention anything about Freemasonry.
I’m not saying that World War 1 was created as a scam and a conspiracy by a bunch of liberal Freemasons in London and St. Petersburg but………..wait, no, actually, that is exactly what I’m saying.
The titan of American revisonists, Harry Elmer Barnes, vindicated Imperial Germany to my satisfaction. That said, I have always thought it was totally reckless and stupid of the Kaiser’s government to play with the fire of Lenin.
Communists shouldn’t feel too badly about their ideology historically having had a ‘special relationship’ with the City of London.
Capitalism as an ideology has had a similar historic relationship with the City, too.
When the de facto ‘Capitalist manifesto’, ie Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations, was first published on March 9, 1776, ‘almost simultaneously’ (July 4, 1776) Capitalist revolution [officially] ‘broke out’ in British North America.
The United States was the result, whose first flag flying over the 1776 revolution, the ‘Grand Union’, was identical to the multi-national corporation British East India Company flag. Today’s US flag is only a slightly altered version of that first BEIC/’Grand Union’ flag.
Both Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations [WON], and Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto were first initially published in London in 1776 and 1848 respectively.
Smith’s first WON book publisher, William Strahan, was a ‘Freeman of the City of London’ financial district. Marx’s Manifesto was first published within the City of London financial district itself.
1776 Capitalist ‘thesis’, 1789/1848 Communist ‘anti-thesis’, 2020 Global Multi-Cultural ‘synthesis’,
aka, ‘Problem’…’Reaction’..’Solution’.
All of this should be rather disturbing to ‘true believers’ in either Capitalism or Communism, and, or, their ‘synthesis’, global Multi-Culturalism.
Almost certainly, at least, some of the US/UK elites and hangers on who ordered pictures like the one’s below made in 1945 ‘knew the score’…
https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/defeat/downfall-us-russians.jpg
https://www.unz.com/article/karl-marx-and-jewish-power/#comment-3721272
Silly.
Haven’t they invented Marxism-Leninism?
Wird in Koln noch Deutsch gesprochen?
ja
He was a Russian.
The Free Speech Movement at UC Berkeley was also created and run by Jews. See the documentary: Berkeley in the 60’s. An interview in that documentary shows an older Jewish “revolutionary” reminiscing about his participation. He says, “We didn’t have a plan for what came next, we just wanted to tear down the system.”
OK, here are the priveledged children of Jews that the USA saved from Hitler. Their parents were brought to the USA (at that time the best country that ever exited on Earth), where they found freedom and opportunity and prospered greatly. How do they repay the Christian nation that sacrificed so much and saved them from genocide?
Well, they try to destroy it, even though they have nothing better to to replace it with.
Pure evil. Greed and envy, and not a sliver of gratitude.
The Germans started the war for world domination in 1914. In 1917 they were reduced to fight for survival. Hitler’s slogan ‘Germany will either be a world power or there will be no Germany’ was just a repetition of what Germans thought before they launched into the war. It is clear that Russia, who was on the way to become a world power, was the main obstacle.
Someone should weld a cutout of Europe between the torch and killing implement.
Also, rivet a plaque to the bottom that says, “Peacock chairs originally came from the Philippines. They were popularized as exotica in Hollywood films, sold as lawn furniture, and finally culturally appropriated as a black power symbol in 1967.”
While it’s naturally only something Germans can say for sure, it could be they don’t want to be reminded about something they might sense some guilt about.
Though, from a purely aesthetic view, I can see why they would not want Lenin’ s statue everywhere. Lenin’s visage looks to be a cross between the satanist Anton LaVey and Ming the Merciless, which considering Lenin’s life work (death work rather?) and it’s ultimate results, is entirely fitting.
Seeing that face constantly would likely give adults regular nightmares for sure.
Think of the little children.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zaW85kvTbQw/TiGNqECzAdI/AAAAAAAAD9Q/9-lyMpNKISE/s1600/anton-lavey.jpg
No, not Lenin pictured below, but, LaVey, who as he got older and spent more time developing his satanism, looked more and more like a ‘dead ringer’ for Lenin. Entirely appropriate that this would be the case imo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/id/f/fd/LaVey.jpg
There is reason to think that Putin is a Freemason.
There is a strand of thought that the triggering of the American Revolution was an act of the East India Company to get the tea duty abolished. A cargo lost in Boston harbour being a modest price to pay for the anticipated result (a local revolt soon settled, as had many already been).
True, we’ve all been conditioned (‘crime think’) to not make too much notice of it. I simply see it as an ideal cover for higher level members (should they desire it) for all sorts of intrigue.
If it’s brought up at all, there’s the almost mandatory disclaimer that has to be said, ie ‘most are great’ (if but a little naive), as sure enough, someone’s ‘Uncle Jack’, or ‘best friend Bill’ is one, and ‘they’re good’, so ipso facto, and quite illogically, alllll Freemasons and the organization as a whole is great and wonderful.
Probably something like that is closer to the truth than the ‘mainstream’ history books. Of course, despite Freemasonry’s purported ‘universalism’, even within that institution ethnicity and race exist, as does struggle and competition between them, just as it does outside of it.
I saw the most recent remake of War and Peace, and they show hints of the Freemasonry aspect of things in Russia’s elite circles at the time of Napoleon’s invasion. Basically, the FM’s are shown very positively, as wise and friendly ‘older brothers’ to all…ie ‘perfectly harmless’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHQH0KQuyvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5hzmwGW4Ac
I thought it was more of a joke, to be honest (a funny one!) Lenin f***ed up one of Germany’s great rivals, so they should build him a statue.
From the unwoke-liberal/libertarian point of view, he was a mass murderer and totalitarian.
From the conservative/nationalist point of view, he was an enemy of Germany. You don’t build statues to your enemies. From the Cold War point of view he was the first leader of the opposition, and from the nationalist/alt-right point of view he was the progenitor of Cultural Marxism.
For history buffs, yes he pulled Russia out of WW1 and saved a lot of German lives, but he founded the USSR that would proceed to invade Germany a few decades later.
That was the point behind the Israel-building-a-statue-of-Hitler gag– over the long term he helped you, but you hate the guy too much.
The septemberprogramm is basically a beta test of what the nazis were planning, get your head out of yourcass kaiserboo
I knew this was Leninposting as soon as I read the title.
And, it should be a dog-park too, without any pedestals.
As part of a larger picture there might be some truth in that.
Having said that, Sir Thomas Smythe was the first governor of the British East India Company in 1600 and reigned for most of the next twenty years as such.
From 1609 – 1620 Smythe would also be the Virginia Company treasurer and de facto non-resident governor of Jamestown, and the company’s other early settlements.
[Interestingly, Smythe also traveled to Russia and personally met with the Czar on a trade mission.]
So, BEIC personnel were extensively involved in British North America from very early on.
As an aside, the idea sometimes floated that the ‘Founding Fathers’ of the US had no idea the BEIC flag was identical to the first US flag (‘Grand Union’) as designed, I don’t find believable, though usually they simply don’t mention it.
https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Smythe_Sir_Thomas_ca_1558-1625
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Smythe
Seems like a rather interesting little film to watch.
Thanks, comrade!
Except that it is. Oswald Spengler and several others said that Communism is basically a bastardization of German Socialism with English class warfare. The ideology is essentially brodly Northwestern European (and Germanic) in nature, and very much a foreign intrusion in Eastern European/Asian history.
So this is not my idea, and calling me a retard isn’t going to make it any less potent. You’re going to have to try much harder than this to shift the scholarly consensus.
The bolsheviks published the diplomatic correspondence between Russia and Britain after the war.
You obviously do not know the content.
Or worse, you lie.
Lenin hated Russian culture but ethnically he was mostly Russian. He did have some remote Jewish ancestry on her mother side and might have some distant Kalmyk ancestry (hence his slanted eyes) on his father side.
Russia has Khalsa।।
https://twitter.com/JungNihang/status/1135837874715332608?s=20
Lenin didn’t have slanted eyes.
You all are giving Lenin too much credit.
If there’s one consistent thread throughout his (and his henchmen’s) lives it is incompetence.
The Bolsheviks were thrust unto the world stage because civilization collapsed and there was literally nobody else to take up the reins of power in Russia. In a saner world, Lenin would have spent the rest of his life shitposting from Geneva while wasting time lotering and drinking beer. (Which was, in fact, what he was doing for a large part of his life.)
Imagine if civilization in America collapsed and suddenly Vox Day and Owen Benjamin found themselves “Supreme Dictators of North America”.
That is the kind of situation Russia was in after October 1917.
Please enlighten me. It is not clear whether is about the correspondence which occurred after the war, or about the publication after the war of pre-war documents (Benckendorff’s correspondence?).
What is supposed to show? Well, I guess, Russia and England conspired to provoke the war against the peaceful Germany.
Maybe Karlin should remember first that Lenin was Russian and second that Russia was fighting a war against Germany. It seems that he forgot all that. Sean McMeekin wrote a book with the title that makes some interesting points: “The Russian Origins of the First World War”. I think that the book is not very well written and that what the title suggests is maybe a bit more than what he shows (his other book about 1914 is much more interesting to read).
In 1914 France saw an opportunity to get back its German territories that they had lost in 1870-1. The Prime Minister Poincaré went to Russia with the president Viviani in order to persuade the Russians to join in the war against Germany. There were important circles there which hated Germany and which had influence over the Tsar, so their job was easy. Conveniently the protocols of this meeting in France and in Russia were “lost”. Viviani was against wars, but he barely knew what they were doing in Russia (maybe he didn’t even know that they were in Russia (my exxageration)). Poincaré was the boss, not the president. The next step was to pull the UK on their side. Douglas Newton tells how this was accomplished in his marvelous book “The Darkest Days: The Truth Behind Britain’s Rush to War, 1914”, a book that everybody should read. Maybe Russia should not have started a war against Germany or have tried to make peace with Germany before 1917, rather than complaining about Germany. You may regret the fate of the Tsar and his family, but you should remember also that the Austrian prince and his wife were murdered on a street in Sarajevo without having started a war.
A Russian-German alliance would be as economically formidable as China, hence the usual suspects and their decrepit Empire Inc. have continued dated British foreign policies like containment plus divide and rule.
Margaret Thatcher, a so-called Angle or Saxon, opposed German reunification after 1989 while apple polisher Tony Blair wanted Turkish European Union membership to dilute German influence.
Warped thinking.
It is actually a united Germany that was becoming a world power having eclipsed the Brits as an industrial power. It trailed the United States which had more people thanks to millions of German immigrants and vast natural resources.
Without Brits and Americans, Germany would have walloped France in 1914
As for ‘world domination’, with doubt Germany, in its various permutations, has been the most important nation in European history since the fall of the Rome. France and England owe much to Völkerwanderung. Modern Russia is itself a product of Catherine the Great, a Prussian princess. Her descendants head several European royal families.
And white americans right now are just drooling idiots for letting a tribal coalition of africans, mexicans, jews etc. walk over them, right?
Ethnocentric minorities can unite to take down monolithic majorities, especially in times of crisis. Not sure how this is supposed to be such a weird proposition.
Of course nobody is denying that there were red Russians, but they wouldn’t achieve much without the total support of the minorities.
25% russian
It may be similar ideologically but none of that matters when Jews are at the helm of the Grand Project.
You often hears modern day leftists denounce certain events as not being real Communism, and they are right. The only time real communism has been tried in the West was National Socialist Germany, because Jews were not running things.
The Eternal Anglo provided the men and resources for the Eternal Jew to carry out his his plans for world domination.
Right, except unironically.
Everyone seems to blame the British/Anglos for most of the worlds’ problems, yet overall it seems that France, for instance, has aided Jewish interests and the NWO just as much as Britain has if not more so. Freemasonry also seems to have a long and colourful history in France. France also has a long history of race mixing and promoting the concept of racelessness, it is the only country in Europe where the recognition of race is illegal.
The “Eternal Franco” seems to be just as much a thing as the “Eternal Anglo”.
If the French race-mix so much, they are not going to be “eternal”, are they?
What?? Are you nuts? France has always been (and still is) the most antisemitic country in Europe.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6b564a83f93fcbfae2c25668707e3fc1/tenor.gif?itemid=5670070
Commenter who is always wrong claims that Lenin arrived into a vacuum and that there were literally no other political or military figures or movements in Russia at the time.
The Brits certainly honor their own agents.
https://twitter.com/sukarma0/status/1237060967369859072
No. The Russian peasant Mir was a collective way of life. It was very much a commune. Communism spoke to many peasants subject to communal taxes. Nevertheless, it was the left SR’s who appealed to the peasants not the Bolsheviks.
No amount of spin can revert the fact that Germany started the war.
And the authors in this website, Ron Unz, and the commenters here are not all shitposters? How many of you are figures of international or national influence?
Helluva writer.
For that, I recall a statue of him striding forward while writing on a notepad. But this might be only a morphing in my own memory. I have not been able to locate and retrieve that image. Its significance is that he’s in action while writing the revolution into being. Nice idea for a sculptor of a certain place and time. My memory may be from a news item decades ago that reported the statue de-pedestaled.
We’re now in stride with smartphones, lots of followers, likes and hates. But pen and paper leading historic movements may be worth a pause in a park. Depends on the flowers.
The age of migrations was the progenitor of all Germanic countries today, not just Germany, you clown.
Germany doesn’t have any kind of monopoly on ancient Germanic history, lol. The ancient Franks who formed France and Saxons who formed England weren’t modern-day “Germans” in any sense.
(On a linguistic level, Frankish and Old English are more like archaic Dutch and Frisian than anything like modern German.)
Nice to see you back. I thought you were on forced unpaid leave due to Corona-chan, no? 🙂
Anyways, I know you’re paid to shitpost, not to think, but “collapse of civilization” doesn’t imply “no political or military figures”. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Also, “lots of political and military figures” doesn’t mean “competent leadership”. Quite the opposite, in fact.
What you “think” is always wrong, so nothing new here.
You wrote: “civilization collapsed and there was literally nobody else to take up the reins of power in Russia.”
Literally. No one else.
Lenin and Trotsky were very competent leaders, much more so than were their enemies, unfortunately. They were also helped by various factors (and cultivating such help was also an aspect of their competence).
But you, who are always wrong no matter what the topic, pretend that Lenin was some sort of bumbling nothing who stumbled into power from his life of drinking beer and writing stuff, because there was literally no one else around.
To be fair to Vox and Owen, one runs a modestly successful indie publishing house, while the other is a modestly successful internet comedian, hardly drunken bums. And neither has any pretensions to becoming a world leader, which even as a bum Lenin certainly did.
Say what you like about their personality (legitimate avenue of criticism), but it kind of annoys me to constantly see them be the butt of jokes, since they’re two of the few people involved in dissident politics who aren’t anonymous, don’t have sympathetic institutions through which to launder their personal image, and are actually trying to produce something of value (yes, entertainment media is valuable, it’s one of the primary avenues by which race cuckery became the popular default political view).
A lot more than most shitposters contribute, both yourself and me included.
Yet they elect a Rothschild banker as their president (66.1% of French voters voted for Macron).
“Lenin f***ed up one of Germany’s great rivals, so they should build him a statue”
Maybe a future Chinese government could put up a George Bush statue, or perhaps a series featuring all those Presidents who moved America’s industrial might across the Pacific?
Bro, if not for Lenin, Russia too would be sucking Uncle Sam’s dick
You need to include Trump as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/10/trump-workers-jobs-overseas-factories
And you do realize that he benefitted from a clothing deal in which the manufacturer made his product overseas, right?
A commune is not the same thing as Communism. Virtually every sedentary agricultural society was communal at the peasant level. The philosophy of Communism was derived from Germanic Socialism and English/Scottish class theory.
Friedrich Engles was not Jewish. Karl Marx never implemented anything. Note that almost every Western European society adopted Communist-like programs, the sum of which amounts to something resembling “shadow communism”. Social Security, property taxes, homeowner’s associations, unions, women’s suffrage, etc. All implemented without the influence of Communism.
Communism is the essence of the Western European soul.
No. The only remarkable thing about Lenin & co was their thoroughly unremarkable incompetence.
By the brownian motion logic of civilizational collapse, one of the fleas on the fur of the dead lion must rise to the top. It happened to be Lenin, but not really by his own efforts. (Or, rather, only insofar as the proverbial crab can manage to escape its bucket.)
People compare the Russian revolution to the French, but if the French revolution was a demoniac social experiment run by luciferian Robespierre types, then the Russian revolution was Mad-Max style midget mud wrestling.
Lenin & co tried to LARP as luciferian social engineers to increase their ‘street cred’, but they failed even at that, all their social experiments were half-assed and broken by design.
Really? Vox Day has daily calls for ‘day of the rope’, ‘day of the pillow’, ‘gamma genocide’, et al., on his blog. Hard to read that as anything else.
That said, I still like him, obviously, as otherwise I wouldn’t read his blog.
Anonymous Coward being wrong every time as usual:
So Kerensky, Denikin, Kolchak, Kornilov, and various Western backers were worse than fleas? LOL.
Anonymous Coward claims Russian society wasn’t completely transformed/destroyed by Lenin and his followers.
Define “worse”, please. Also, don’t use grade-school language with empty emotional rhetoric.
Russian society was destroyed long before Lenin got on the scene. (Arguably, since the tail end of the 19th century at least.)
I deliberately used your grade school language. Most of your post consisted of such empty words (the closest you get to not being wrong is when you don’t say anything) but what little you wrote in your post that was of substance – was wrong. As usual.
Wrong again.
Russian society by 1930 was fundamentally transformed from Russian society of 1910.
Stunning revelation, my man. Please do continue with your awesomely hot takes.
Anyways, if anyone with an actual brain is reading this: as far as Russian society being destroyed, the dead canary in the coalmine, in my opinion, was the Zasulich case.
That happened in 1878. Lenin was eight years old at the time.
Apparently one you could not figure out, in the case of Russia.
Russian society was improving until the World War. Zasulich’s aquital doesn’t change that.
Yeah, Lenin certainly helped Germany fuck over Russia. This is true both in the short-run (when Lenin gave Germany the Brest-Litovsk Treaty as a gift) and in the long-run (when Lenin’s nominal support for national self-determination eventually destroyed the Soviet Union–which, BTW, was already severely demographically weakened as a result of WWII, which would have been nowhere near as deadly for Russia had it even occurred at all if it wasn’t for Russia’s 1917 Bolshevik Revolution).
Yes–specifically slowly but steadily.
A minor quibble:
When the treaty was signed, Moscow was in no position to take those territories so it wasn’t much of a gift. The gift occurred earlier then Bolshevik demoralization caused the fronts to collapse.
You mean “when Bolshevik demoralization caused the fronts to collapse”, correct? If so, completely agreed.
Yes.