Preliminary results for survey based on Nesterov’s (@esoterikwa) alternative political compass + attitudes towards Transhumanism vs. Conservationism. Noticed a couple of interesting patterns.
Traditionalists don’t seem to value individual Right to Exit, which is essential for Patchwork, and prefer Iron Curtain. Biodeterminist accelerationists seem to be more progressive on social issues than one might expect. Left-transhumanists tend to underestimate dangers of AI.
Predictions: Most transhumanists will group in their main sequence. SSC rationalists will group in the center-left on universalist axis, up the technocapital axis. Neochina of fascistic transhumanists will arrive from red triangle grouping to the purple pentagon.
It is based on this old video by up and coming Russian vlogger Kirill Nesterov.
Empire Earth’s Russia campaign was the greatest work ever made on the subject of Russian futurism.
Landian accelerationists win again.
Why the contrast (or just relationship) between Transhumanism and Conservationism? Which is represented on the horizontal pole and which on the vertical?
To my understanding…
Left: Universalism – people are basically similar, except for their social or technological concerns.
Right: Biodeterminism – people are fundamentally different and cannot escape their born conditions.
Top – Technocapitalism – wealth and power justifies itself. The pursuit of such incidentally creates civilization, and pusuit of wealth justifies suppression of trad morality.
Bottom – Eudaimonia – civilization uses wealth and power to create moral goods, and pursuit of said trad morality justifies suppression of wealth.
Relationship is that extreme transhumanism cannot allow “true” biodeterminism. By denying the soul,no essential qualities can be unaltered: you can put a dog brain in man or put a human brain in a dog, differences will only be via psychotropic chemicals such as hormones or enteric nervous system, etc. Especially true of accelerationists (no brakes,no regulation, no acceptance of any trad morality: usually paired with faith in capitalism as almost a moral force).
I wonder where Nick Bostrom (deliberate extermination of humanity by artificial general intelligence in probably the default) would fit in.
Vogt committed suicide in 1968, the truth is not always a pleasant thing.
Samuel Butler had it all worked out in 1863
Competence without comprehension as Daniel Dennett calls it, he thinks AGI is at least 50 years away though. Unlike Vogt and Butler he has reproduced so maybe he is biased.
Sounds quite Pavlovian. Quite conducive to an authoritarian society based on obedience and communal agreement to an all knowing leader. Orwell’s 1984?
Not really since it typically is technocapitalistic, so it’s patchwork friendly. Typically has strong libertarian attitudes, very Randian.
transhumanism is fake and gay, even alex jones say so
perhaps i’m too new to this blog, but: what the hell am i looking at? any sort of reference would be helpful.
Refer to the legend. For example, “Singularians” are upper right, and hexagonal for “progressive” and purple for “singularity.” Some archreactionaries(primitivists?) are bottom right, marked “non-exit” and “anti-industrailization.”
Can you elaborate, or say how long it takes to play?