PSA from Patriarch Kirill II on the Ukrainian question in Moscow. Just your normal billboard ad. 🙂
INSOMNIAC RESURRECTED
Longtime Russia watchers may recall the Austere Insomniac blog, which used to offer excellent analysis on the Ukraine and was first to introduce the term “svidomy” into the English language.
Unfortunately, it later closed down, but the person behind it has recently reopened it at INSOMNIAC RESURRECTED.
Here are some of its inaugural articles:
- Kyiv Post risks being shut down over a Language Law
- Ukraine will buy 72% of her Coal from Russia
- Russia Ended Reselling Of Oil To Ukraine By Belarus
- Almost 50% of Ukrainians Think Banning of Russian TV Channels was a Mistake.
- Why Taking Ukraine in 2014 Would Have Been a Bad Idea?
- Pederalizatsiya
- Hroysman: Russians Want to Create Ukraine Fatigue in the World
While it’s obviously biased against Maidanism, the person who runs knows the Ukraine well, and the vast bulk of it is just translations from and commentary on Ukrainian news. Feel free to follow it if you’re interested.
UNZ UPDATE
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As you also probably know, you can also contribute to individual authors here who have made that option available. My details are here: http://akarlin.com/donations/
My comments in the announcement thread were only 90% tongue in cheek. Large meetups and conferences, while excellent, are also very expensive and organizationally complicated. Livestreams and podcasts are much easier to arrange, and I suspect that quite a few people might be interested to hear people like Sailer, Giraldi, Shamir, or even myself discussing various topics. This format has exploded in the Russian nationalist sphere in the past year and it has been rather successful.
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NRx and Chinese history blogger spandrell, the inventor of Bioleninism, is going on an expedition to Xinjiang. You can fund his adventure here in return for exclusive access.
Palladium seems to be an interesting new journal.
Featured
- So about The Caravan… Best take?: I have a prediction. When the caravan gets to the US border, they will put the women & children on the front lines. There will be pictures of desperate women/babies in front of stonefaced, armed troops. TIME will put one on the cover and the headline will be “Trump’s America.”
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Brazil elections: Bolsonaro leading by 20% points, PredictIt gives him 95%+ of winning.
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Steve Sailer: Rising polarization as 84% of Dems think immigrants strengthen the country, up from 32% in 1994
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Gregory Hood: The UN’s Plan to End Civilization
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spandrell: The Wars of the Sexes
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Steve Sailer: “Why White Supremacists Are Chugging Milk (and Why Geneticists Are Alarmed)”
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Quillette: The promise of a golden age is over: Chronicling the death of Internet freedom
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Max Blumenthal: Facebook Censorship of Alternative Media “Just the Beginning,” Says Top Neocon Insider
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NBF: Tesla seems to be doing pretty well now. Did we write off PP too early? Has also just bought land for a new gigafactory near Shanghai.
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It’s official: US becomes world’s largest oil producer. It has also exceeded its previous production peak in 1970.
- SCMP: China to reveal new H-20 stealth bomber next year with twice the payload of the American B-2. It apparently has twice the payload of the B-2.
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Voice of Europe: Blast from the past! Local news article uncovered detailing case of immigrants grooming Rotherham girl in 1975
Russia
But [the Kiev Patriarchate’s] fate is now inextricably intertwined with that of the current government. What happens when the government changes?
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Vzglyad: 403/413 monks in Odessa monastery voted to remain with UOC-MP [in Russian]. Looks like Filaret will have a hard slog, at least without help from Ukrainian nationalists.
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RT: People behind Latvia-based opposition media outlet Meduza are financed by organizations that have been financed by Soros and Khodorkovsky [in Russian].
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Full video of the presentation of Zhuchkovsky’s book 85 Days in Slavyansk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OTeux74Ulo
* Measles outbreak rages through the Ukraine with 33,000 infected this year
- Vesti News: Video: Moscow infrastructure boom as 20km subways lines, 15 new stations built just this year
World
- Kenneth Rapoza: Counterintuitive: World’s largest asset manager BlackRock’s geopolitical risks indicator is at near record lows
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NYT: USA to tell Russia it’s leaving INF Treaty banning intermediate range missiles to counter Chinese arms buildup in Pacific. (So, what I said).
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Sushant Singh: Washington DC offers to drop India sanctions over purchase of Russian S-400 if it also buys American F-16s
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Military Watch: Indonesia to reject US pressure and go ahead with Russian S-35 purchases
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Pepe Escobar: US sanctions on Russia & China ultimately aimed to contain China technologically
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Haaretz: “Jewish donors are topping the fundraising efforts in the United States 2018 midterm elections”
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Craig Murray: Turkish account of Khashoggi murder is “true in every detail”
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Tyler Cowen on how political correctness hurts the Left more than the Right
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Kevin Carrico: I Mastered Xi Jinping Thought, and I Have the Certificate to Prove It. Reminds one of those Scientific Communism and History of the KPSS classes in the USSR. Not to China’s credit that it continues this tradition.
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Breitbart: French also fleeing to Hungary from migrants (like Germans).
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ZeroHedge: Facebook and Twitter purge of alt media websites based on PropOrNot list pushed by WaPo
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RT (Darius Shahtahmasebi): Facebook working with NATO-funded Atlantic Council to scrub website of alt media content
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Matt Agorist: NATO funded think tank controls Facebook censorship arm so can it really be called “private”?
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Steve Sailer: Elizabeth Warren singlehandedly disproves “race is just a social construct” media trope (humor)
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Emil Kirkegaard on the always temporary but neverending nature of affirmative action.
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NYT: White American liberals well to the left of Blacks on racial issues
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Politico: Trump Derangement Syndrome: Orange man making liberals crazy
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National Interest: Italy’s populist coalition continues to defy EU on immigration and Russia sanctions
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Romania Insider: More Romanians than Syrians emigrated to Germany in 2017
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Guardian: China plans to launch artificial moon to light city streets at night
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Ash Milton (Palladium): China may outcompete Western liberal order with Belt and Road global economic expansion project
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NextBigFuture: China to account for 59% of e-commerce sales by 2021
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New China TV (video): China opens Hong Kong-Zhuhai bridge, world’s longest sea crossing at 55km (3x as long as the Crimean bridge)
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RT: Uncompensated private land expropriations to begin in Ekurhuleni, South Africa
Science & Culture
https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1052566854168907776
- NextBigFuture: What will be the big changes from 2018 to 2028?
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Birth canals are different all over the world, countering a long-held evolutionary theory
* Why did the recent Soyuz launch fail? Classic O-Ring failure: “The mount did not immediately enter the groove – we drove it in by force.”
- Mashable: Elon Musk’s “hyperloop” high-speed underground mass transit system to launch in LA on Dec 10
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Quillette: Is factory farming one of history’s greatest crimes?
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4chan mathematicians crack a math problem, but nobody knows how to cite them
- whyvert on history of Soviet psychometrics:
More universities no longer using SAT or ACT scores.
Reminds me that the USSR had used IQ tests (known as pedology) in the 20s but then banned them in 1936. pic.twitter.com/Bg9KGaoHB0— Whyvert (@whyvert) July 18, 2018
Humor, Trash
- Powerful Take: I am so proud to run one of the world’s premier venues for the exchange of high-end racial abuse from all corners of the globe. #UnitedInDiversity
- More on the Richard Spencer saga: His new gf –
This is like when Enteo (Russian Orthodox fundamentalist) started going out with Alekhina (feminist Pussy Riot member). pic.twitter.com/Q41iQYO9ki
— Anatoly Karlin (@powerfultakes) October 24, 2018
- Daily Stormer: Powerful takes of Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s next Prez
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Daily Stormer: NPC scripts
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Navalny’s daughter:
- Breitbart: North American college students literally “smashing scales” to promote fat acceptance
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Steve Sailer: Ancient Greek statues weren’t white, they were… pink! Take that, racists!
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Voice of Europe: 16 year old Italian girl founded dead in Rome after being drugged and raped by “Africans and Arabs”
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Voice of Europe: France’s recently resigned Interior Minister said he feared appearance of Salafist mayors in next elections
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We wuz Nutcrackaz! It is directed by a Swede, and the producer is a Jew.
- Greek City Times: Huge Christian cross on Greek coast built to commemorate drowned refugees torn down so as not to offend (presumably surviving) non-Christian refugees
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Gloriously autistic 2 hour (sic!) review of the FALLOUT series by ROGPR podcast host Kirill Nesterov:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDsouuMYQB4
Instagram of Navalny’s daughter is not different to instagram of any emergin children of the Kremlin elite (including photos standing next to famous African American celebrities at photobooth of glamorous events).
The only sad thing for her, that the father has fucked up his career, and is not part of the Kremlin elite, does not have any apartments in London – and only is some kind of powerless symbolic cult leader.
He just repeats what he is told from Russian media and from former Yanukovich media within Ukraine.
It’s like a guy in Russia who has access to and reads only NBC and stuff to the left of it knowing USA well.
Well, the Jerusalem Patriarch seems to support Constantinople:
https://orthodoxia.info/news/constantinople-jerusalem-strengthen-ties-in-response-to-moscow-decision/
The UOC-MP is down to 15% -20% of Ukraine’s Orthodox believers. It’s the more pro-Russian group leftover group. plus those who are sticklers to recognition. Many of the pro-Ukrainian ones have already left or been purged. I’d expect perhaps 1/3 to defect, the pro-Ukrainian ones who were reluctant due to lack of recognition but who now have a way out. It will be a Church for Crimeans, ethnic Russians, and local Russian nationalist cranks.
This UN global compact for migration is, rather belatedly, becoming an important issue among right-wingers in some European countries. So far only Hungary seems to be determined to reject it, though there has also been some criticism from the Austrian and Polish governments. There also seems to be some discussion in Switzerland and Denmark.
In Germany AfD tried to file a petition against in in the Bundestag (I was already looking forward to signing it), but the administration of the petition process has rejected it, because such a petition could harm “intercultural dialogue” (!). Remains to be seen if they will succeed with that, but it’s really clear that the establishment wants to prevent any public discussion of this migration agreement and just push through with it, to create yet more irreversible facts.
Tesla short thesis is unchanged. Tesla went to extreme lengths to make their Q3 numbers. For instance they sold their entire loaner fleet. What a capital idea!
I do respect Polish Perspective however, and unlike the total fool Bliss I have no doubt he put his money where his mouth is.
On a different note my five year old Samsung Galaxy Note 3 failed. I ordered a Blackberry Key One to replace it. Greatly enjoying asserting my superiority over touch keyboard peasants through physical keyboard dominance.
Lol well now she just needs to monetize her YouTube
I believe, he is controlled by Greece?
This suggests that Jerusalem is not going to cooperate with Moscow if it were to attempt to isolate Constantinople, as some clerical hardliners advocate, but it says nothing to substantiate its assertion that this is “in response to Moscow decision”. We do however have direct Russian claims that all three of the rest of the Ancient Sees supported canonical Orthodoxy in the Ukraine (i.e. UOC-MP).
This is a disappointment, but not an entirely surprising one, considering that Jerusalem is staffed with Greeks, and Jerusalem is traditionally allied with Constantinople. Incidentally, this part of Israel Shamir’s article now becomes relevant:
Former Yanukovych media = anything more moderate than Censor.net? Are any of the things reported/translated in those sample posts actually false?
23% to 35% as of 2016, though yes, it will probably not go down to 15%, while UOC-KP may rise to 50%. But I was talking more about the coming expropriations of UOC-MP property. This suggests they will not go smoothly.
Tesla products are supposed to be very well designed, and receive positive reviews (even if manufacturing and servicing is incompetent).
What is the commonalness of companies, who designing excellent products, has very positive brand image – then failing from some incompetence of manufacturing, or poor financing?
For example, even if their finances collapsed, someone else will still buy the company and maintain its products?
Disney has been damaging its brand for a while now.
I don’t really get it. Walt used to put his signature on the screen because he was very brand-conscious, so did Jim Henson. Disney bought the Muppets and made some disturbingly perverse sitcom, where they were using fag terms.
I think some Chinese investor could really eat their lunch, if they created a company and positioned it as the anti-Disney.
Not sure how reliable Israel Shamir’s comments are.
Russian Orthodox Church is usually sounding quite pro-Israel in its statements, which is understandable as a result of their small demographics in the region. Apart from some few hundreds of wives who married Palestinian students in CIS countries and immigrated to Israel/Palestine due to marriage to Arab students, their members in Israel (maybe it is some tens of thousands), are Israelis (usually voting Likud or Yisrael Beiteinu) whose children have to be conscripted into the army.
Obviously this is very outnumbered, by Arab Christians in the region, who belong to Greek Orthodox and Greek Catholic churches.
I don’t believe a fake moon is currently viable.
Geostationary orbit is too high for the scale of anything that could be created today – it would be too small, maybe like a star. On the other hand, putting it in LEO would mean it would shoot across the sky in seconds.
This is pretty cool.
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1054945577589506051
You are onto the same track I am.
I believe Tesla will ultimately be acquired by a major global automobile OEM. GM, Ford, or Volkswagen.
Did any of you guys watch Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan’s show (Joe Rogan’s show – actually quite addictive to play in the background)?
It’s funny if America’s most successful (also weirdest) entrepreneur is an African immigrant.
The link was to a Razumkov poll showing 23% in 2016. 35% were simply “Orthodox” (didn’t know or care about differences).
In 2018 Razumkov showed Moscow adherents down to 17% of Orthodox:
https://risu.org.ua/en/index/all_news/community/social_questioning/72673/
It will probably shrink to around 10%-12% now that there is a canonical way out for the patriots who were still in that Church.
Ironically, there might be a silver lining for Russian interests, the smaller this Church becomes in terms of adherents, the more pro-Russian it will be.
Church buildings built by the UOC-MP would probably not be touched if the parishioners want to stay with Moscow.
The famous monasteries are still owned by the State, they were never given to the Church, only leased to it (for some nominal amount). It would be odd for these places to remain in the hands of an increasingly marginal group with few followers, representing a foreign state. Best case for the Russians would be if they were allowed to stay for another 30 years or so until the lease expires, and then were evicted. Much of the Kiev Lavra was built by Mazepa (whose excommunication by the Russian Church was described as invalid by Constantinople). Would be odd for that place in the heart of nationalist Kiev to remain as de facto Russian state property.
Trump is sending 800 troops to protect the border lol. And people are treating Trump like he is some kind of nationalist.
Where is that wall by the way?
“Washington DC offers to drop India sanctions over purchase of Russian S-400 if it also buys American F-16s.”
Lol, the US government might as well just admit it is the mafia now. They get mad when they don’t get their cut and pass it off as “national security”.
Anglin is usually somewhat crude, but this piece was clever without having to resort to baser language.
https://dailystormer.name/are-justin-bieber-and-miley-cyrus-the-same-npc-model-with-a-different-skin/
Walt Disney was Hitler 2.0 so they won’t be able to stop themselves pozzing his name – a Russian or Chinese company that did Slav or Chinese versions of all the old Disney style movies would clean up with parents imo.
We must begin identifying the Backdrop people and we must have a plan what to do with them. And what are we going to do with the ones who already got convinced they are a piece of meat: a biological robot?
Finally some use for female soldiers. The men can sit in the gunship while the photo op is going.
The presence of a Swedish director of Nutcrackaz strongly suggests that it will not be just a negro/woman LARP, but a negro/woman/homo LARP.
actually they are extremely successful recently.
A bit OT: In utu I seem to recognize a fellow Central European. He also
seems to suffer from the “small country syndrome,” i.e., the rage that ensues when
a country’s dreams of greatness are constrained by the cold hard reality of its
geographical limits. For example, Israel suffers from the small country syndrome …
on steroids. However, many small countries in Central and Southern Europe
also have that problem.
But unlike utu I don’t have an animus toward Jews. Israel is a different story
but Israel is a low IQ country. I don’t have an animus toward Jews (I know I’m
touching the third rail here) because I consider most Jews to be failures.
Remember, in my value system unless you show signs of enlightenment or
holiness, you’re merely a smart chimp. A billionaire or a Nobel Prize winner
is no more than a smart chimp. So you won the rat race, you’re still a rat.
Let’s not forget that all we are is animals, we are part of nature. Are you gonna
deny that? What are you? Some kind of science denialist? The never ending
wars, never ending arms race, and never ending criminal activity prove
conclusively that humanity has extreme difficulty rising above the smart chimp
level. We’re tribal, territorial, and status seeking, all connected with the reptilian
and paleomammalian portions of our brain. Of course, that simply means that
Jews are nothing special, they are like 99% of humanity. It was silly of the Jews
to reject a great human being like Jesus of Nazareth. Moreover, as I pointed
out before, Jews failed to create a great civilization. They even failed to form
a separate country in the wake of the fall of Rome. Nations like Bohemia,
Poland, and Hungary were created during 850-950 AD with much smaller
numbers than the total number of the Jews in Europe and the Mediterranean
basin at that time. I remember once attending a conference where a Jewish
speaker gave all sorts of examples of Jewish stupidity exhibited in the course
of European history. Hence we need to show compassion toward the Jews,
not hatred.
Still, as I had pointed out before, I believe humanity has a great potential.
Anatoly is very interested in transhumanism. What I described before in
some of my posts is the so-called Christian Transhumanism (a version
of theosis). A Course in Miracles (1976) – all 1350 pages of it – is often described
as Christianity for the Third Millennium. Some theologians in fact refer to it
as the finest theological treatise produced in the 20th century. People who
have studied it say it’s very transformative. It’s been translated into over 25
languages, incl. Russian and Polish. I don’t know about Czech or Hungarian.
Of course, one can instead follow the path of self-effort through meditation
in all its varieties, Buddhist, Advaita Vedanta, etc. As a ‘60s guy I also see the
return of psychedelics (except that they never really went away!)
In 30 years, there will by like 15 million people left in regime-controlled Ukraine. Assuming the regime even survives that long, there will be enough religious space for everybody.
Bullshit:
Actually, he takes issue with some Russian establishment views. He also referenced a poll on Ukrainian views on Russia which contradicts this wishful svido thinking:
RT Russophobe rating challenged:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/10/23/naming-top-anti-russian-advocates.html
https://www.eurasiareview.com/24102018-rt-russophobe-rating-challenged-oped/
As noted with specifics, Nikki Haley and Tom Rogan come across as being more anti-Russian than Bill Browder and Michael McFaul.
The stances taken by Travis Tygart, Sebastian Coe and Rune Andersen fit the hardcore anti-Russian category.
The situation with Orthodox Christianity in Ukraine is also discussed.
Look up Father Groeschel who was very close to Helen Schucman (born Helen Dora Cohn) who ‘channeled’ the ‘A Course in Miracles’ while a being a professor of psychology at Columbia to William Thetford who was brought up in the Christian Science church. By the way, mother Ms. Helen Dora Cohn was into theosophy and Christian Science. It was William Thetford who hired Helen Schucman at Columbia. It is believed that at various times he worked on projects for CIA.
Journalist Randall Sullivan met Father Benedict Groeschel and wrote this in the article:
Somewhat comedic and to be expected:
https://www.rferl.org/a/mattis-says-russia-cannot-replace-u-s-commitment-in-middle-east/29566838.html
The US examples in Iraq and Libya serve to validate Russia’s position in Syria. What was said in 2015 hasn’t been dis-proven:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/10/09/answering-russia-critics-on-syria.html
Russia regularly meets with all key Middle East players – something the US hasn’t achieved – largely on account of having a misguided and narrow minded set of beliefs.
But less useful than Crimea bridge and 3x more bureaucratic.
Why is Russia so deficient in production of “whodunit” mystery television programs? This is a SWPL category that Russia should be doing a lot better in. Sherlock Holmes is popular there, so I don’t think it’s a cultural thing. The UK produces something like 100 hours of this sort of programming every year. France around 20, same for the Nordic countries. But I believe that since 2014 there have been only two such series shown on Russian TV: Мажор and Метод (both available on Netflix), neither of which was very good, and which at a combined total of three seasons, average out to <10 hours per year.
There are no mysteries in Russia. Under a proper interrogation the definitive truth is always established.
Yes, I watched it and enjoyed it.
America has a long tradition of immigrant entrepreneurs. My father is an immigrant entrepreneur.
While I am short Tesla, I do like Elon Musk and hope he recovers after Tesla’s inevitable bankruptcy. He needs to learn how to be honest however.
considering that Jerusalem is staffed with Greeks,
And Ilias Giannopoulos, aka Theophilos III, the current Patriarch, does not exactly enjoy a stellar reputation among his flock:
Greek Orthodox Church Quietly Selling Off Israeli Assets at Fire Sale Prices
Israeli Land Sale by Orthodox Church Puts Tenants’ Homes in Danger
Protests Against Greek Orthodox Patriarch Intensify Over Church Land Sales
In Nazareth, Christians Protest Sale of Church Land to Private Developers
Palestinians Chant ‘Traitor’ at Greek Orthodox Patriarch in Protest Against Land Sale
3x more bureaucratic.
Priceless video. Only 3x? What sort of paperwork is required to use the Crimea bridge?
Where are Pussy Riot when you need them?
Vintage Trifkovic:
https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/prince-mbs-a-good-mohammedan/
There is a statue of Sherlock Holmes in Japan, even though the conviction rate there is very high. I’m not sure whether it is only a fringe that loves him there or not.
I was alluding to the alleged Stalin’s or Beria’s saying that there are no innocent men, only improperly interrogated. I was trying to be funny.
The Antiochian Patriarchate, which has jurisdiction over my own Greek orthodox community, has come clean and in support of the canonical Ukrainian church and Moscow.
It’s a relief the Antiochian Patriarchate is no longer in Antioch but in Damascus. Happened long before modern Turkey actually annexed the city, but it was for the best as there is a day and night difference nowadays between current Syrian authorities and the filthy rural donkeys who lord over the Turkish Republic.
Two lessons here, first it shows that the Constantinople Patriarchate still sitting in Istanbul is a thoroughly dishonorable and dishonored institution, it already was in Ottoman times when candidates had to jockey for the position paying very hefty sums to the Sultan and it is all the more so after the last remnants of the Greek community were pogromed out of Anatolia and then the very city in 1955. Wasn’t it enough of a signal to leave for greener pastures and officiate in exile? They stayed for what? For this culmination in a trainwreck of CIA sock-puppetry, spitting on the graves of dozens of generations and sullying the most seminal imperial legacy in history? For the most measly baksheesh at that, it seems. Of course this doesn’t end there and we will get back at them one way or another.
The other lesson is that, if the flock no longer speaks Greek then the parachuted Jerusalem patriarchs also have to go. They have amply shown themselves to be the mere continuation of Ottoman agents sent for mischief, now beholden to Israeli settlers, and also corrupt to the bone. Not much is new. “Collaborationist” Greek clergy used to be sent to lord over orthodox Balkan provinces during Ottoman times, and the tradition endures.
I know. I think that mostly comes through legacy, but a lot of people won’t take their kids to see them, anymore. Plus, there are a lot of countries where their values are not remotely mainstream.
They are damaging their brand unnecessarily. They could still get social justice points without doing it. No one really cares, for instance that they are putting MENA people in the new Aladdin, or that there is only one white gentile in the new Lion King. It’s that they are rewriting European myths and settings and doing gay things.
But they are very large, and there isn’t really a company that competes with them head on. Most parents will just give into kids’ demands.
I’ve looked over his ‘resurrected’ blog and it indicates that his three year hiatus has not helped him resolve his self deprecating, Ukrainaphobic behavior. But because he’s your typical Little Russian malcontent, a strong adept of Karlin’s ‘Triune theory’, Karlin feels an affinity for him and is plugging his unimaginative blog. Too bad that you’re not an ethnic ‘Triunist’, Mickey, otherwise Karlin might plug your blog too (instead of leaving this fruitless task solely up to yourself). I’ve got a suggestion for you: why don’t you start commenting at Tomicek’s blog, and maybe he’ll reciprocate and start commenting at yours too? That way you’ll both start averaging about 1 comment per thread, instead of the current average that’s closer to -0-, for both of you? 🙂
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How true is that though, globally millenials are a lot more liberal than their older parents are, I mean there was a survey where more than half of Japanese for the first time are in favorr if gay marriage, and if China was a democracy like Taiwan I guess that gay marriage would be legalized there within the next ten years at most.
He has an apocalyptic fear about AI. It is really, perhaps from his lack of understanding of how computation works – but still fun to imagine his science fiction scenarios – starting around 12:00 into the video.
Larry Ellison is supporting Tesla – it doesn’t seem like they have a lack of investors. Probably already, this is “too big to fail”.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-26/oracle-s-ellison-says-tesla-is-his-second-biggest-investment
so what are you?
Speaking of Anglin, I wonder if he’ll do an article on this poll:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqgEPoEWoAAZA5W?format=jpg
Married White women are supporting the GOP at nearly the same rate as men, and drubbing unmarried White men by 10 points. Even unmarried White women support the GOP at a higher rate than any other group, obviously including married men of all non-White racial groups.
The smallest gender gap of all is among Whites.
h/t McFeels
Tesla isn’t General Motors.
Nobody is going to give them a cash infusion when they run out of money.
What’s your point Rosie?
Obama gave to General Motors over $16 billion of taxpayer money by 2010.
You would hope, no intelligent president, would behave like for any companies in the future, at least until Democrat’s control of the White House.
Such companies, if they can only survive with vast government cash injection, “deserve to fail”.
However, obviously Tesla has still not a problem finding new private investors. Larry Ellison starts to invest in Tesla recently – which is after its losing quarters, and when it was in a worse situation than today:
So what do you think should be done with the LGBT question, kept in the closet? Genocided? Bring back Leviticus?
Frankly anybody who proposes do increase or allow immigration of high IQ non-whites is no different from a race traitor.
Gays are, by definition, a very small market. Whatever the polls on marriage are, they don’t grow the numbers of gays. I don’t think you can rewire the disgust reflex of a lot of people even if they tolerate gay marriage.
For instance, Star Trek is not a Disney property, but I wouldn’t say a lot of Asian people want to see a gay Sulu compared to a straight one. People like characters because they can relate to them. Similarly, I don’t think blacks like what’s been done to Lando Calrissian.
I recall seeing polls where increasing numbers of teen males admit having same sex experiences in the UK, something like 10 percent or thereabouts, and if male on male sex is not stigmatized or seen as abnormal in the Greco-Roman world, you can sure see a situation where male and female homosexuality and bisexuality is seen as something normal or not disgusting among the younger generation. Have you seen the Pew polls where less than 30 percent think that homosexuality should be discouraged? The reason why the LGBT community was ostracized in the past was precisely to prevent the spread of the idea that homosexual or bisexual behavior, or sharply gender norms is a good idea.
Base on historical evidence, I believe there is some validity to the idea that the vast majority of people are innately bisexual, and that people can become heterosexual because of cultural taboos, else you would not have a thing like prison sex or man love Thursdays.
GM is actually doing pretty well now and their market share has stabilized.
It is absolutely irrelevant what is innate. Young men when given opportunity will fuck animals. Is it innate? We have civilization to set up norms and acculturate people to these norms. And we have particular norms because they are good for the civilization.
LOL, correct me if I am wrong but you believe that there are currently about 25 million or so people in Ukraine now, right? Why not claim that in 30 years there will be 10 million in your world? That will make you even happier.
The French Metropolitan strongly supports Constantinople:
https://risu.org.ua/en/index/all_news/orthodox/constantinople_patriarchy/73177/
Metropolitan Emmanuel expresses his regret that the Moscow Patriarchate is fiercely opposing the process of granting autocephaly to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, tries to weaken by way of threats and attacks the communion ties that unite all Autocephalous Orthodox Churches between themselves.
Metropolitan responded to the call of the Russian Orthodox Church to convene the Pan-Orthodox Council to discuss the issue of Ukrainian autocephaly:
“The Moscow Church uses its influence in order to exert pressure on other Orthodox Churches, calling them to convene the Pan-Orthodox assembly. It should be noted, however, that the Russian Church refused to take part in the Holy and Great Council of the Orthodox Church in June 2016 in Crete. It was about one of the most important Orthodox events in modern history. I regret the manifestation of such opportunism on the part of the Moscow Patriarchate, which seeks to use All-Orthodox meetings to place their own accents. In addition, it should be understood that the provision of autocephaly does not constitute a matter for the agenda at the Pan-Orthodox Council, this issue is solely within the competence of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, as the Mother Church, which grants independence to the Orthodox Ukrainian ecclesiastical body. This is a lesson in history. The Ecumenical Patriarchate is the source of autocephaly of all the local Orthodox Churches, with the exception of the ancient Patriarchs founded in the first millennium, and with the exception of the Cyprus Church.”
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Overall, whatever the underlying motives of Constantinople, its decision is the only one that actually brings millions of believers back to Orthodoxy. The Opposition to this move seems to be motivated by Russian nationalism and the Russian Church’s allies have such Russian connections (Antioch is based in Syria, whose Christians were saved by Russia, Serbia is a Russian ally, etc.).
The prison population shouldn’t be taken as an example of society at large. Prisoners aren’t there randomly but because they have mental deficiencies. Anyway, that is gender segregation. If taboos are being broken that is the opposite of gender segregation.
Logically, there are reasons enough to ostracize gayness without everyone being gay.
There isn’t a sensible evolutionary argument for most people being bi. Gay porn is readily available, in privacy, but the vast majority of men do not watch it. Perhaps, you are engaging in some form of wishful thinking – personal preference or the malleability of the individual.
And now, the clownish Florida style prelude is over, and the real pre-election terror campaign started. As in every self respecting third world country, the more blood on the streets, the more democracy.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1056207874370756608
And the perpetrator is the real deal, fully woke alt-righter. Let’s hope he was Unz.com reader, Ron can always use more free publicity.
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1056223326673219589
Buy guns and ammo!
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1056225963539906561
I think the number is somewhere in low 30 millions right now. And no, I’m not too happy about it, but you must understand: the chances of the Ukraine becoming something of a viable state are NIL.
Given that Russia saved Syria’s Christians, this is not at all surprising. Although Constantinople’s actions make all the Ukrainian churches canonical.
At least one of the Moscow Church’s Metropolitans in Ukraine is planning to go over to the new united Church:
https://risu.org.ua/en/index/all_news/confessional/orthodox_relations/73185/
The background is that the previous head of the UOC – Moscow, Volodymyr Sabodan, was a crypto-nationalist who was trying to slowly make this Church more Ukrainian, and there were rumors by Ukrainian patriots within that Church that his illness was made worse by the previous regime so that a more pro-Moscow figure could replace him. He died before his plans could come to fruition.
After his death in early 2014, his supporters were purged from important positions and replaced by more pro-Moscow figures. So ironically as Ukraine’s society became more patriotic/nationalistic, the UOC – Moscow moved in the opposite direction and became more hardline-Russian.
Many of Sabodan’s people such as the Metropolitan interviewed in the link above will now have a canonical way out of the Moscow Church and will take it. This will reduce the Moscow Church to a much more Russian, and much smaller, entity in Ukraine, squatting in some important buildings.
it was stigmatized – the exception was they tolerated pedophilia between an adult male and a boy
It really hasn’t been a great year for the Alt-Right
4chan /pol/ and another site are on the case of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting today … Bowers had been denouncing Trump for being too Jewish-favouring
But: 10 days ago, Bowers had re-posted a message from anti-Jewish US politician Patrick Little, who warned, “I expect a very large false flag attack as one of the final desperate attempts by the jewish international oligarchy to maintain power in the face of collapsing public trust in (((the media)))”
So the claim is that this guy tweeted about Jewish run false-flags, and then somehow a few days later, decided to be a synagogue shooter?
Or did they pick this ‘Robert Bowers’ to be the patsy for killing, enjoying satanic irony in that he himself had just tweeted about expecting a Jewish-run false flag?
Culturally interesting in that the synagogue massacre stopped the circumcision mutilation of a Jewish baby boy that was scheduled … circumcision is a barbarism needing to be outlawed everywhere
Had known about 4chan /pol/ with many Unz readers, but hadn’t before seen Kiwi Farms on this kind of material, a site about eccentric internet communities in general, but with a special section devoted to mass shooting situations, and archiving material before it disappears. It quickly set up a Robert Bowers thread, pointing out, e.g., that there are two Robert Bowers in Pennsylvania, one not the shooter, but with a long criminal record
Well it didn’t seem much in Western media, but just more than a week ago a student killed 20 students and staff in his college in Crimea (probably imitating American style shooting).
There is not really much pattern or logic, in this branch of crazy. If aren’t dodging bullets in Florida or Colorado, it can happen even going to school in Crimea nowadays.
i’ve been expecting a reaction to the media’s censorship campaign but i was expecting the target to be the media itself.
Apparently about 30% of Kiev has been without hot water for 6 months now?
I wonder how this compares to Donetsk.
Maybe he was just both crazy and dumb
Key one has lag key two is better.
It compares well with Russia in 2013.
From RT:
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/
Tens of millions of Russians living in urban areas are struggling with a lack of basic utilities – 1 in 5 city dwellings have no hot water, and 1 in 10 no indoor sanitation. More than 70 percent of the country’s utilities network is worn out.
A comprehensive report by the Russian Union of Engineers (RUE) studied the 164 biggest cities in the country, and came to the conclusion that while new amenities are being introduced, old ones are not being replaced sufficiently quickly. The information was published on the same date as a separate report from the Emergencies Ministry, saying 60 percent of Russians are living at high personal risk, largely due to man-made factors.
Urban areas still have better amenities than the country as a whole. Russia’s Federal Statistics Service reported last year that more than a third of all Russians have no hot water and more than a fifth have no running water at all in their homes. The same study showed that less than 1 percent of all water flowing out of Russian taps and faucets complies with international safety standards.
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Hot water was supposed to have been restored last week.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiCAOWWsAAvaYA.jpg
Was he wrong?
What are “man love Thursdays”? I’ve never heard of it before.
Incidentally, there is a popular Alt-Right Tweeter named “Bronze Age Pervert” (BAP) who promotes homoerotic memes and images on the Alt-Right, although generally with irony and humor in order to maintain plausible deniability. On Thursdays on his Twitter feed, which he calls “Handsome Thursdays”, he Tweets a lot of semi-nude pictures of male models. I wonder if this is connected to “man love Thursdays”. He would not use a term like “man love Thursdays” because that would be too obvious and strong.
Estonian Metropolitan (who is under Constantinople) supports Constantinople:
It should be noted that his is the Church of ethnic Estonians who are Orthodox; most Orthodox in Estonia, ethnic Russians, are under Moscow.
https://orthodoxie.com/en/reflection-by-metropolitan-stephanos-of-tallinn-and-all-estonia-on-the-ukraine/
Of which probably half are in the depopulated cities of the Far North, for lack of tenants, while the other half are dacha settlements within urban borders.
Meanwhile…
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1055373281283530753
Well this might be a strategy to voluntarily get immigrant Muslims from places like Somalia and North Africa to leave. I assume Europeans can deal with the cold fairly well (I know my wife can handle the cold way better than I can, vice versa with the heat – I start breaking out the thermal leggings once it starts getting to around 50 F); just shut down heating across the board during the winter and those guys will leave by themselves. You just have to wait them out; one winter is probably all it takes.
Peace.
I assume your wife, is not from the Soviet Union.
People manage with external cold, but normal city people are accustomed to very good internal (inside building) warmth. This is a result of very intelligently developed (and actually efficient) heating infrastructure that was engineered in cities in the Soviet countries, is often recycling heat from power stations, and is ahead of many Western countries (well, was ahead – if we talk about current situation in Ukraine).
These inaccurately dull comments from you have already been debunked. Goble’s blog doesn’t get any comments. That doesn’t stop him from getting picked up at JRL and being referenced at RFE/RL. Not that such makes him superior. There’s a good deal of phony, crony baloney activity when it comes to what does and doesn’t get propped, to go along with some permeating cultural and geopolitical biases. BTW, JRL doesn’t have many posted comments.
The person who you’ve a hard on for has been on the BBC a couple of times, in addition to having been academically referenced and regularly interacting with key academics. Meantime, your activity is comparatively pathetic as an anonymous crank.
FYI, I believe that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus descend from Rus in a way that Poland and others don’t – adding that there’s a very good basis for the 3 Rus related countries to be on close, friendly terms.
Oh yeah!?
Svido nationalism is motivating the move running directly opposite to it. Despite Kiev regime pressure, the established UOC doesn’t look like it’s going to whither away anytime soon, on account of a noticeably number in Ukraine not having svido views.
Rehashed svido wishful thinking:
A recent poll in Ukraine, referenced by Insomniac Resurrected indicates differently.
No, her background is Swedish. She does way better than her mom though. When we were visiting Egypt, her mom basically holed up in her room with the AC turned to 60-65. Felt like a freezer to walk in there from the outside.
But I was talking about the European countries that want to get rid of their immigrants from hot climates.
Peace.
On that thread other people in Kiev were saying that they had heating. My own relatives there do.
From the thread:
https://twitter.com/DevinAckles/status/1055418670040735744.
“If I threw some water on my radiators, I’d have some pretty good sauna action. I have had to open all of my windows the past 2 days because its too hot in my apartment. Central Kyiv.”
We have someone dumb enough to believe such things.
From September 2018:
In Ukraine, 45.2% of Orthodox Christians affiliate themselves with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Kyiv Patriarchate. This is evidenced by the results of a survey conducted in late August – early September jointly by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology, the Razumkov Center and SOCIS, according to Gordonua.com.
16.9% of respondents who identified themselves as Orthodox regcognized themselves as adherents of the UOC-Moscow Patriarchate. 2.1% of those polled admitted affiliation with the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church.
33.9% of the participants of the study chose the answer “I’m simply Orthodox, I do not affiliate with any denomination.”
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About 1/3 of the Moscow Church’s believers support reunification under current conditions. The loss of that 1/3 means the Moscow Church will be down to about 11% of Orthodox believers or under 10% of the Ukrainian population. A marginalized, small Church squatting (for how long?) in Kiev’s cultural treasures, whose believers are down to Russian nationalist dead-enders, ethnic Russians mostly in places like Kharkiv or Odesa, and Crimeans. Maybe the Church should just move its HQ to some nice place in Crimea?
So what is svidomy? Googling isn’t helping.
I don’t know, Mickey. Paul Goble aside, I still think that both you and the goofy Insomniac get zero commentators at your respective blogs because of your poor writing styles and inability to break out of your intrinsically Ukrainaphobic points of view. People can see right through the fluff. In your case, being the next in line to inherit Deniken’s or Skoropadsky’s mantle to some imaginary throne, I can see why you pitch the pro-Kremlin line. But Insomniac? He’s just a toady bugger who just has spent too many of his brain cells on his self destructive cannabis habit – his Ukrainaphobia is just plain disgusting! 🙁
i’d say Trump is (was?) a 1970s era liberal New York republican who’s being pushed right by a poisonous media
More wishful thinking on your part. The established UOC is already quite independent from the ROC-MP, with the former making its own decisions – as is true of the MP affiliated ROCOR.
It’s called the UOC in recognition of its Ukrainian base – never minding (that contrary to what you restate) consists of numerous folks of a Ukrainian and Russo-Ukrainian backgrounds, who don’t seek a complete break with the MP, while understandably not being fond of the Kiev regime interfering in church matters to support the wishes of the shady Filaret and the minority UGCC, which isn’t Orthodox Christian.
Austere Insomniac used to have hundreds of comments. He returned, I think, less than two weeks ago – of course it will take some time to regain an audience.
That’s right – you don’t know much on a good deal that you comment on.
Nothing especially poor about my writing. In contrast, your writing, knowledge and intellect are clearly not superior to yours truly.
In any event, most of the Eurasia Review posted articles at issue initially appeared elsewhere – primarily at the Strategic Culture Foundation, Global Research and Counterpunch.
I can see why svidos don’t like my input. Roman Serbyn (who might very well be the relatively well known person having that name) is a case in point:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/23032017-reexamining-russias-past-analysis/#comments
https://www.eurasiareview.com/07032017-obsessing-over-russia-comparing-diplomats-and-historical-narratives-analysis/#comments
The likes of Serbyn are definitely more anti-Russian than the false claim that I’m anti-Ukrainian. More accurately put, I’m against anti-Russian propaganda – something that unites me with numerous Ukrainians and others.
An example of debunking anti-Russian propaganda regarding Crimea:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/07092018-consistency-and-reality-lacking-on-crimea-analysis/
My refuting of Doug Bandow and Andreas Umland is considerably more academic than your sleazy approach at attacking those whose views you don’t like.
I’m sick and tired of hearing how it’s all White women voters’ fault, when it’s a problem with unmarried voters, if anything.
That statistic is irrelevant when marriage has been declining for decades, due to the decline in men’s status relative to women and consequent decline in male marriageability:
https://www.prisonplanet.com/tucker-carlson-warns-of-something-ominous-happening-to-men-in-america-men-seem-to-be-becoming-less-male.html
Mickey, your problem (and Insomniac’s too) is that you haven’t learned to write for your reading public. I mean really, just because you’ve read a few books about Russian history and remember Grandpa’s fireside chats with a few of his Russian svidomy friends about the great crusade that Deniken led, doesn’t really qualify you to be an interesting blogger on all things Russian. And having an interest in Soviet hockey legacy, although an admirable sideline, doesn’t really add much to your veneer as an all around well versed guy. Spend a few years (at least) living in Russia, like Karlin or Kovpak, and then write your blog. BTW, what’s holding you back from doing such a thing? You’re single with no family obligations, a man of means (no visible source of income), and yet you piddle away your whole life in New York city? An extended time in Russia would also help you master the Russian language, something I know that has caused you considerable obstacles in the past. Do it while you still can, Mickey – New York will still be there when you return…
It’s as independent as Poland was in 1975. 2/3 of its people left, it is largely down to the Russians. The exodus of remaining Ukrainians will make it a fully Russian Church within Ukraine. Ukraine is about 15% ethnic Russians – this will be their Church. And not even for all of them.
Crimea remains within that Church just to make sure it is a de facto Russian Church.
IIRC it was largely Mr. Hack making fun of him (I didn’t go there often so I could be wrong). Again, he mostly just reads pro-Russian stuff from within Ukraine (yes, it exists -Ukraine is not North Korea as some Russians erroneously believe) and repeats it. Some of it is true, some exaggerations, and other things are just nonsense as is obvious to anyone who has been there. It’s like a detailed picture of America through the eyes of Buzzfeed, Black Lives Matter activists, etc. written by and for people who are clueless about the actual place but motivated to dislike it.
But he’s not nearly as dumb as Mikhail, I’ll give him that.
Dissident Right misogyny will continue to morph as it attempts to come to grips with the data, and the data will continue to back you into a corner until you shut up and go away.
I have now literally heard some of you freaks claim that women shouldn’t be allowed in the professions because we’re too stupid to compete. Now you’re saying we shouldn’t be allowed into the professions because we can compete. No matter what, the solution is the repression of women.
95% of the comments made to his blog were made by both Averko and myself. The other 5% were composed by some poor bystanders who happened to stumble there by accident or even by a bored AP looking for some extracurriculars. I don’t plan to return, as they say:
The day he quit blogging was one of great jubilee for me! 🙂
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqgEPoEWoAAZA5W?format=jpg
white male 57.7%
white female 53.4%
difference: 4.3%
nb i agree that 4.3% are critical btw
(and clearly so does the media)
Anglin again. You are obsessed!
Anyhow, this is a good sign. Since women are much more conformist than men, this implies that Trumpism is becoming rapidly normalized in the US. (Women are also more economically leftist, but it’s not like Trump has moved to the left – rather the converse, if anything – so that can’t be the reason).
Eventually it may come to pass that more women vote for Trump than men, as has long become the case in Russia wrt Putin, and is now I believe the case in Hungary wrt Orban (maybe reiner Tor can confirm).
Insomniac wasn’t, in my opinion, all that articulate either. He would often dodge the tough questions and somehow get Averko to stand in as his stooge like interlocutor. Clever perhaps…but intelligent? It was you, actually, who had some classic dialogues with [AK: Don’t dox], where you compared some of his ‘bigoted’ anti-Ukrainian theories as being no better than somebody who would claim that no man had ever walked on the moon. His ‘patois’ theory of languages used in trying to condescend the Ukrainian language was pathetic…
In general, it’s a sign of weakness to be effected too much by temperatures. But it’s nonetheless, also a sign of how far Ukraine’s infrastructure has fallen. Anyone in 2018, should deserve a warm apartment. Soviet engineers were pretty competent for creating certain kinds of infrastructure (modern Ukraine, would not likely be able to construct Kiev metro either).
Sure, but English is probably his second if not third language.
He doesn’t strike me as being highly intelligent but is probably smarter than the average person, though he is dumb enough to believe some nonsense (assuming he is sincere). I don’t feel like exploring his website further, my impression based on a brief excursions is that he’s analogous to a slightly bright but naive undergraduate who has filled his mind with nonsense and become a passionate libertarian or Randian or Marxist or whatever, except he does this with Russian nationalist materials with Ukrainians the focus of his ire for some reason.
I just posted a link with a bunch of data that you’ve completely ignored. The data completely vindicates my argument. You cherry picked one piece of data without supplying any context or accompanying data.
Here’s the context: marriage rates have been collapsing and are at record lows in some wealthy countries:
“Marriages between men and women hit lowest rate on record”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/marriages-men-women-lowest-record-heterosexual-lgbt-ons-a8232751.html
I never said women should or shouldn’t do anything. I said that there are certain social changes that result from female economic independence.
Nonsense.
Kiev last built a new metro station on 2013:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Teremky_Metro_Station.jpg/1920px-Teremky_Metro_Station.jpg
This new line is under construction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podilsko%E2%80%93Vyhurivska_line
This station in Kharkiv opened in 2016; it is called “Peremoha”:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/%D0%A0eremoga_-_metro_station%2C_Kharkiv.jpg/450px-%D0%A0eremoga_-_metro_station%2C_Kharkiv.jpg
Ukraine just built an express train linking the airport to central Kiev, set to open in November:
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/540512.html
https://images.unian.net/photos/2018_10/1540469316-6688.jpg
female economic independence isn’t the cause of the shrinking middle class it’s a side effect of the shrinking middle class
Lame. For comparison, Moscow consistently builds around a dozen new stations per year. Though even Moscow has nothing on China.
https://i.redd.it/vjdy375yxiyy.gif
I assume the next one will be called “Zrada”?
Moscow did that more than a decade ago.
This would mean that Kiev is level pegging with Bucharest, which should have finished its airport rail link a few months after I left.
Well, Kiev is certainly no Moscow, I was just pointing out that Ukraine is still building metro stations.
Moscow still doesn’t link Sheremetevo to downtown, though.
For millenia, until very recently, there was no middle class and no female economic independence.
I’ll look at your data when I get a round-2-it, but I think we’ve already had this discussion.
Mr. Karlin, I have learned from bitter experience that the MGtards will conquer any dissident Right territory that is not vigorously defended from their pernicious influence.
Kiev has a quarter of Moscow’s population, so it should be opening 3 stations a year to keep pace in per capita terms. But apparently it’s building one every 5 years. At first I actually thought Dmitry’s comment was hyperbolic, but now I realize it’s literally true!
What do you mean there’s no rail link to downtown? Aeroexpress goes from Sheremetyevo to central Moscow (Belorussky vokzal), which in turn is a short walk away from the Metro. There are rail connections to all of Moscow’s airports apart from the very small Zhukovsky Airport (and even that is going to be remedied soon).
As I said, Kiev is no Moscow.
But Moscow built 14 stations in 2018, 4 in 2017, 5 in 2016, 2 in 2015, 6 in 2014, 2 in 2013. So you exaggerate the rate of new stations being built in Moscow.
It’s not literally true because he claimed Ukraine is incapable of building a metro at all when it actually does so.
You are right, but even my wife didn’t hear about it (I just asked), we always take taxis or have family drive us.
right it’s very recent so what was the precise sequence from
1) 1950s couple with dude earning and wife looking after kids (at least when they were little) with one car and no childcare costs
to
3) where we are now
was it
2a) women decided they didn’t want to focus on their kids in favor of economic independence
or
2b) the couple white flighted to the suburbs requiring two incomes to pay for it plus 2nd car and childcare?
(leading to financial problems, marriage breakdowns and women wanting financial independence cos the old security was gone)
i’m not denying the problems you describe don’t exist – i’m saying the main cause of these problems was and is the sinking middle class (and the resulting scrambling for the lifeboats).
Basically I feel it was due to overall declining wages which were disguised by two-income households and later, debt. The overall consumerist culture had much to do with it too. Feminism and “empowerment” does seem to have been highly promoted as a way to gain a new cheap labor source by industries.
http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/real-household-income1.png
On being dumb, you got us both beat.
Once again, the number of posted comments doesn’t necessarily serve as a good gauge of the quality of the given author in question.
By the way, pseudonym “Jim Kovpak” doesn’t get too many posted comments at his toilet of a blog. He’s also known to block comments that substantively spank his BS. The ones that appear tend to match his idiocy.
Keep dreaming like a fool, as nothing of the sort actually happened.
Look who is talking. You aren’t particularly bright.
You’re incorrectly transferring your shortcomings to me, in addition to stating lies, as in incorrect asides – that aren’t relevant to the actual issues. Vintage trolling to get off topic for sure.
Kovpak is a censoring crank, much unlike yours truly. You remain an anonymous coward.
The difference between you and me is that I can substantively back up my criticisms.
That 1950s couple was already in the suburbs.
The people living in cities in the 1950s in the US were the wealthy and working class ethnics, not the middle class. Broad based, American style middle class family prosperity requires suburban sprawl. The suburbs are a precondition of it.
The white flight in the 60s and 70s was mostly working class and lower middle class white ethnics, not solidly middle class whites.
You’ve summed him up quite accurately. He revealed that his mother had a ‘Ukrainian surname’ and that therefore she had a Ukrainian ethnicity ‘stamped’ on her passport. She was born in the Kherson area. All of his contempt for Ukrainians as anything more than ‘Little Russians’ was especially strange as he was born and bred in the Czech Republic for most of his life. It’s highly improbable that anybody there cared much one way the other whether his mother was Ukrainian or Russian or whatever…
More svido wishful thinking on your part. Your referenced polling brings to mind what the predicted outcome was for the 2016 US presidential election, relative to what actually happened.
Polling in the former Ukrainian USSR can be subjectively skewed. Your uncritical referencing of the svido leaning RISU relates to this point.
The established UOC has yet to come close to folding, despite attempts that go back to at least Yushchenko’s regime. Poroshenko took the state interference against the established UOC to a greater level.
I heard personal accounts of this repugnant behavior:
https://russian-faith.com/news/patriarch-constantinople-favors-bishop-who-renounced-his-own-children-n1805
Right on!
https://russian-faith.com/news/head-ukrainian-orthodox-church-says-no-patriarch-bartholomew-autocephaly-n1804
https://russian-faith.com/news/greek-orthodox-bishop-says-patriarch-constantinople-has-no-right-meddling-ukraine-n1803
Warren lays out what happened in this lecture – a massive premium on housing near “good” aka safe schools required two incomes which led to needing two cars and expensive childcare which led to financial insecurity.
being an SJW she left out what caused this massive flight to neighborhoods with “good schools” but the sequence is perfectly clear – the path to 1970s family breakdown was through 1960s white flight.
nb i’m not saying the consequences of this process (feminism or whatever you want to call it) aren’t a problem now i’m saying they are a result of this process of financial squeezing and not the cause.
And what was great about this new labor force it did not show up in the unemployment statistics initially and yet it existed.
I think Aaron Russo claimed that Rockefeller told him it was a very old plan. It goes back to The Communist Manifesto at least where basically it was argued that marriage should be abolished because among other issues marriage was an institutionalized prostitution. Alexandra Kollontai took it to heart and began implementing in the USSR and sharing women within the collective was discussed. I think Stalin put stop to it perhaps because he was a nature prude as a former seminary student or he saw that society will fall apart while he needed people for spreading the revolution and fighting capitalism. If it was not for Stalin, possibly, we would have LBGQT and other nonsense in the Soviet Union already in 1930’s.
From the economic pov having women work is good because it indeed should make a country more wealthy even though it would undercut male wages, however, if the capitalists after having all women and men working (-5%) come to you and say it is not enough, we need foreign labor then it means they want to grow beyond natural limit of the county. One good answer to the capitalist then would be that if you need more production for export go ahead and open a plant abroad but you won’t be able to bring the products to our country and compete with people working here but we still will tax you on the profit.
This poll isn’t about “predicted outcome” but number of supporters. You would understand that if you were a little smarter. 🙂
RISU didn’t do the poll, they just report news from various sources. You would understand that if you were a little smarter. 🙂
Setting you aside, here is a very detailed group of polls from Razumkov:
http://razumkov.org.ua/uploads/article/2018_Religiya.pdf
Page 8 = % of Ukrainians who trust Patriarch Kirill declined from 44% in 2010 to 15.3% in 2018.
Page 12 – Percent of the population who consider themselves to be religious. 90.1% in Western Ukraine, 70% in the Center, 58.5% in the South, 63% in the East.
Page 14 – percent of people who say religion is important to them. 89% in the West, 55% in the Center, 50% in the South, 40% in the East.
Now, remember that Ukraine’s West and Center are where the religious people live. Which Church to the actually religious regions belong to?
Pg. 16 (all population)
In the West, 29.4% Kiev, 7.0% Moscow.
In the Center, 37.9% Kiev, 13.9% Moscow.
Pg. 17 (among Orthodox)
In the West, 64.1% Kiev, 15.2% Moscow.
In the Center, 48.2% Kiev, 17.7% Moscow.
So these are actually religious, devout people who are being saved from schism by Constantinople. Not “Atheists, but Orthodox atheists” from the East. Good that Constantinople is worried about and helping the former, and not preferring the latter.
Increase in support for Kiev vs. Moscow over time:
Which Orthodox Church do you belong to (pg. 17)?
Kiev Patriarch – 22.1% in 2010, 42.6% in 2018
UOC- Moscow – 34.5% in 2010, 19.1% in 2018
“Just Orthodox” – 37.9% 2010, 34.8% 2018
How do the people of Ukraine want the religious conflict to be settled?
National Church based on the Kiev Patriarch – 26.9%
National Church resulting from union of all Churches – 23.4%
National Church remaining under Moscow, as it is – 9.2%
I don’t care -22.7%
Among members of the Moscow Church
13.5% believe a National Church should be based on the Kiev Patriarchate
25% want an independent national Church resulting from union of all Churches
42.3% prefer the status quo, with the national Church remaining under Moscow. Less than half!
So, we can expect about half of Moscow’s remaining members to leave and join the national Church. A little over a third are willing to leave, a little over 40% want to stay.
More:
Do you trust Filaret? 36.7% of UOC- MP members trust him, 36.7% don’t trust him. Rather good considering he is the leader of a rival Church. Onufrey does not enjoy that level of trust among UOC-KP members.
OT: Attitude towards Islam. Pg. 22.
Most negative in Western Ukraine, followed by Eastern Ukraine. Something to unite both regions!
Central Ukraine is most Islam-friendly.
Southern Ukraine is most pro-Jewish (Odessa). Followed by Western Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine most anti-Jewish. So much for the myth of Galician rabid antisemites.
I’m well acquainted with the life of Helen Schucman and Father Groeschel’s
opinion of the Course but the testimonies of thousands of people whose lives
have been transformed by the Course speak for themselves. Perfect truth is not
available to us “this side of Paradise” so one needs to use the empirical
approach: either the 365 exercises in A Course in Miracles” work for you
or they don’t. It’s gratifying that finally Christianity has employed an empirical
approach. In this sense it’s become like Advaita Vedanta or Buddhism – either
meditation works for you or it doesn’t. And now the Course has a sequel
called “A Course of Love” (2001) by Mari Perron which is only now beginning
to receive the attention it fully deserves.
Re hillbilly welding a chainsaw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22SY8NR4mq4
Re China’s economic prospects https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/23/kyle-bass-dire-financial-straits-in-china-give-trump-trade-leverage.html
Re; mercenaries CIA renegade Ed Wilson had an ex Green beret try shoot a Libyan exile in Colorado for Qaddafi.
Re nukes: no one would use ’em first, so nukes are only a deterrent to nuclear war. Russsia has strategic space, and could retreat into it, although why anyone would want to invade Russia is beyond me.
Re* Why did the recent Soyuz launch fail? Classic O-Ring failure: “The mount did not immediately enter the groove – we drove it in by force.” Russian device designed for the cracking a nuts; a sledgehammer.
Re Geoengineering will be weaponized. In pulp novel Scarecrow and the Army of Theives, the CIA trick the Russians into building a huge geoengineering weapon so that it can be used to incinerate China and preserve the living standards of the American family without the US getting the blame.
Re Spencer.In Nietzsche’s NOTES (1880-1881) he writes: “The reabsorption of semen by the blood is the strongest nourishment and, perhaps more than any other factor, it prompts the stimulus of power, the unrest of all forces toward the overcoming of resistances, the thirst for contradiction and resistance. The feeling of power has so far mounted highest in abstinent priests and hermits (for example, amoung the Brahmans).”
Hitler did not even masturbate as a youth, he was a virgin throughout his twenties (he called it the “Eternal Flame”). Goebells too was a virgin till his 30’s. Some people thought Goebbels was a better speaker than Hitler, but in his early period before he started banging lady acrobats teenage waitresses and his half neice, Hitler was nonpareil.
Re More Romanians than Syrians: East Europeans immigrants were the real reason behind Brexit,
Anti raciist condtioning had it all under control until the white immigrants came in and kept wages down. They were of the same race and that was the chink in the establishment’s armour.
Re producer is a Jew, Khashoggi (nephew of the arms dealer and whore-master Adnan) was part Jewish. Given his father’s success in business from a start as a very low level immigrant, I would not be surprised if bin Laden was too.
This is primarily of interest to the Central Europeans
visiting this blog. There is a sense of growing excitement as Central Europe
is celebrating the centennial of its rebirth in 1918 – for example, Czechoslovakia
on October 28 and Poland on November 11. The disappearance of Central Europe
as a separate civilization from the map of Europe, which began with the First
Partition of Poland in 1772, initiated by two Germans (Frederick II of Prussia
and Catherine II of Russia) and the Hapsburgs of Austria, was a great tragedy
that completely destabilized Europe (thus making it weaker), and IMHO led
directly to WW I and WW II from which Europe emerged much weaker than
it could have been had the integrity of Central Europe been protected. For
example, Europe (through the Urals) being roughly the same size as China
should have roughly the same population as China. It’s hard not to conclude
that Europe is missing at least 500 million people.
In this connection I’d like to recommend The Reference Frame, a blog by the
Czech theoretical physicist Lubos Motl who was banished from Harvard for
his conservative views. He writes a lot about politics, not just physics, and has
a very lively mind.
Rosie, “the Patriarchy” isn’t something that was invented by men.
“The Patriarchy” was invented by women for women’s benefit.
You know as well as I do that no woman will be sexually attracted to some loser who earns less than her. In the female liberation, no-gender-gap dystopia, that means that 50% of women have no chance to ever have a sexually attractive mate.
Men will make do, they always have porn. But what are the women to do in this hellish world? Cats are no substitute for a real man in your bed.
Are you a lesbian?
We went over this in a previous thread. The middle class was already in the suburbs at the time of “white flight” in the 60s and 70s. The cause of family breakdown was female economic independence. The need for more incomes, cars, childcare, etc., is an effect of female economic independence and family breakdown. When women have more options, they become more expensive to satisfy. We see this family breakdown in other wealthy countries that have had female economic independence, like in countries in Europe which have not had immigration until very recently.
Think about it like this. What would happen if the average man suddenly became a foot shorter than the average woman? What would happen to his attractiveness to women and his marriage prospects? Do you think they would stay the same, rise, or fall? This is basically what has happened: female economic independence have figuratively made women grow taller, which necessarily means that the average man is now relatively shorter. Women do not like short men. Female economic independence has made the average man into the economic and social equivalent of a midget:
Number fudging is in line with bias driven (put mildly) questionable polling, which are both in line with your screeds.
Henceforth, an idiot would be prone to readily accept your long winded babble.
Aaron Russo was a most interesting person.
Quite delusional:
http://uawire.org/the-ukrainian-foreign-ministry-demands-that-russia-stop-recruiting-crimeans
Nothing about such Crimeans defecting to freedom (sic) in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine or holding mass demonstrations against the Russian occupation (sic) in Crimea.
The Koreans playing Imperialist powers off against one another caused the Russio Japanese war and the consequent 1905 revolution, thus removing the Russian deterrent to Germany and causing Britain and France to become allied. Russia was drawn into an alliance with france by Poincare (a relative of the brilliant physicist) who wanted Alsace and Lorriane, where he was born, back. So skillful diplomacy in a multi polar system is the cause of world wars.
Ok, fair enough. But 10 stations per year is going to be the new normal for the next 5 years according to current plans.
I am rather surprised you never noticed Aeroexpress, there’s plenty of signs.
Tip – don’t use taxis, use Yandex Taxi (or Uber if you can’t be bothered installing the other app). Taxis typically overcharge by 3x at the airport.
Quality comment.
So your thesis seems to be correct (UOC-MP for Crimeans, ethnic Russians, and Russophiles). Still, it means nothing without being recognized. Moscow will never do it, most of the others probably won’t.
Polls in a country without the rule of law (like Ukraine) are meaningless.
Polls showed that Crimea was pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia, until suddenly one day (literally one day) they flipped.
It’s no mystery. The mystery is why people take anything coming out of the failed state of Ukraine seriously.
I don’t know how it could be isolated, but unrestrained female entry into the workplace would likely have exerted downward pressure on the wage scale. Even so, I think most people were (are) in favor of equity feminism.
A restricted universal basic income would facilitate marriage and nuclear family formation. It would remove the incentives for women to remain single and produce welfare children. It would also eliminate the disincentives that are present in our current social welfare which discourage self-help and self-improvement behaviors. The allowance for children could even be tweaked to favor children from intact households. Also, by directing social welfare toward individuals exclusively, rather than having a major race component, it would eliminate the problem of people not wanting to pay for “other” groups’ welfare.
This is fake news. Crimeans were always very pro-Russian, and became more so after their incorporation. I know you love being wrong and all, but please try to be so in a way that doesn’t reinforce Russophobic Western media tropes.
Not according to McCain and Kiev. 😉
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd0XalKUIAALhHO.jpg
They were, but not according to Ukrainian “polls”.
Everything that AP quotes is a russophibic Western media trope. Why pick and chose different colors among a pile of bullshit? It’s all shit regardless.
It’s your credibility against his, then. But his claims are falsifiable, so if you challenge them and fail to refute them, that’s your credibility on the line.
Let’s have a look again at some of those pieces that Anatoly linked to:
Are any of these false? And if not, what does that say about his credibility — and yours?
Sure, but that’s setting the bar too low. Here’s Yasha Levine (of the eXile) writing two weeks ago, not in my view overstating the case:
“I just got back from Ukraine and I have to say what I saw was frightening: widespread gov-funded Holocaust revisionism and denial, total impunity for neo-nazi violence against civil society, and an almost complete retreat from political life by Ukrainians.”
https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1050338821500485632
These results support what AK said – in almost all years Crimeans were Russophiles. Only exception (2011-early 2014) was when Yanukovich, an ethnic Russian (Belarusian absentee father, Russian mother), was president.
In other words, Crimeans were only satisfied being part of Ukraine when Ukraine was ruled by a Russian, all other times they were dissatisfied.
LOL, you couldn’t even read the poll results you yourself posted.
One can also imagine what chilling effect demonstrations like this one must have:
https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1052040683790499840
I went by his posts here. He was claiming that central Lviv was full of garbage, for example. As I wrote elsewhere –
” Some of it is true, some exaggerations, and other things are just nonsense as is obvious to anyone who has been there. It’s like a detailed picture of America through the eyes of Buzzfeed, Black Lives Matter activists, etc. written by and for people who are clueless about the actual place but motivated to dislike it.”
After leaving customs we were always greeted either by family with a car or a relative with a cab they ordered, so never looked for or noticed those signs.
So man on the street is aware of what some UPA people sang in 1943 in Gleboczyce, Volhynia?
Do you think when Germans see parades honoring Red Army soldiers they become afraid of getting raped? Parades honoring the Revolution make some Russians afraid of getting sent to a gulag?
What a silly comment.
Quality sets of commenst with one dissent.
Crimea en masse was never anti-Russian. It was willing enough to live in a Ukraine which wasn’t so antagonistic towards Russia. Umland’s selective spin on polling noted here:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/author/michael-averko/
The point being that people do change. Relatively speaking, it wasn’t so long ago that Yanukovych won the Ukrainian presidency, at around the time that a Ukrainian poll had Putin winning the Ukrainian presidency when matched against the actual candidates, as well as other world leaders at that point.
I had earlier linked a very recent RFE/RL article saying that the majority of Ukriane’s OC follow the church that’s loosely affiliated with the ROC-MP. It’s safe to say that numerous folks continue to follow that church.
More bullshit:
There’re neocon/neolib preferred Russians who most Crimeans differ with. Conversely, there’re fortunately some Ukrainians (who I’ve the pleasure of knowing), who don’t buy the anti-Russian BS and are readily accepted by mainstream pro-Russian elements.
You don’t like the results of scientific polls so you eek out stupid replies like this, Mickey? This is why the vast majority of readers here and elsewhere find you to be nothing more than an obnoxious twit!
I think James Flynn was right when he said something like, women want to be loved. Those who cannot get men to love them, will still want to get children to love them, by getting pregnant by the men who will not love them.
As earlier noted at this thread, that’s a very false view of Insominac Resurrected. In actuality, he spends a good deal of time referencing and ridiculing svido leaning sources, in conjunction with some sharp disagreement with elements within the Russian political establishment.
Your so-called scientific polls aren’t always so scientific in terms of their accuracy with reality – something that I established. So much for your obnoxiously stupid self.
No one is perfect as evidenced with some of your clueless comments over the course of time.
I don’t know about that. It’s a factual question that I don’t have the information to evaluate.
No I really don’t know that.
I’m going to assume, for the sake of argument, that this is correct, though I don’t believe it is. The solution is not to repress women, but to repatriate manufacturing and put a stop to high-skill H1-B type immigration.
The problem with manosphere crybabies is that they seem to deliberately seek out solutions that will alienate any potential allies, rather than solutions that others will support. I can only conclude that it is an unserious movement of crybabies who want to share their feelings about how they’re so hard done by rather than actually accomplishing something to improve men’s lives.
Of course, there is no guarantee that such measures would solve the problem, but you can’t possibly know that until you’ve tried them, and you can’t try them until you wrest control of the country for the hostile elite, and you can’t wrest control of the country from the hostile elite by threatening and alienating one third of the electorate.
Indeed, and how do you know it is not porn that is causing low marriage rates. You average girl can hardly compete with pornstars, and there are data to indicate that men aren’t much interested in the average girl.
I’ve been married for twenty years.
Your comparative references are silly. There’s also the matter of monuments and stamps honoring the OUN/UPA – even though there’s a poll revealing that Bandera isn’t so popular a figure in Ukraine – a point giving credence to the disproportionate influence that anti-Russian extreme nationalists have there.
In comparison, you’ll be hard pressed to find any official or semi-official to speak of honoring of Stalin/Stalin era repressions in Russia. Putin supported a Moscow based commemoration of the victims of Stalin era purges – something repeatedly noted by Stephen Cohen.
You also need to consider the possibility that it is men who aren’t interested in high-earning women, rather than the other way around. Also. There is some evidence to suggest that women earn more because they can’t find husbands. IOW, the lack of marriage prospects, possibly caused, at least in part, by competition from pornography, actually encourages women to seek more remunerative careers!
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/04/single-women-m-b-a-s-will-downplay-career-ambitions-to-preserve-options-on-the-marriage-market/
https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/2372-man-shortage-men-drives-women-careers.html
You didn’t establish anything at all that would put the results of this poll into doubt or jeopardy. The only thing that you established is your reputation for being a hardheaded fool.
You’re wrong again, as you continuously transfer your shortcomings to me.
A part of the UNDP polls are also from the Yanuk. era and their results do not really differ from the results of the pre-Yanuk. era polls from 2009.
Your claim is wrong.
I don’t see how you could possibly mistake my stand on issues with your own? Or your reliance on circular reasoning that leads to nowhere? I guess that’s my biggest gripe about you Mickey, is that you only see what you want to see, and nothing else, no matter how convincing the opposing view is. The Beatles had people like you pegged accurately, when they wrote these words:
This comment is actually adressed to AK, whom I see gave you a big ‘Agree’, but feel to free to chime in too. I don’t see how Karlin can give you a big thumbs up (at least agreeing with the results of this poll), and still presumably be a seriouss advocate of the Triune theory? I mean really, these results indicate that the vast majority of Ukrainians are not interested anymore in supporting a Moscow based Orthodox church, but want a more native Orthodox church, reflecting their own sensibilites, not Russian ones. Everyone knows that UOC-MP is the last credible stronghold of Triunism in Ukraine, and it appears that its sway in Ukraine is quickly descending to nill. It looks like Karlin is still desperately clinging on to a view that is losing any lasting currency in Ukraine (basically on life support) – and he must know it! 🙂
Something else to consider is that by classifying the previously “shadow economy” of domestic labor, it will necessarily increase GDP presented whether or not if it actually increases the real services and goods provided. So if say, marriage was now reduced to purely transaction calculations of cleaning, food preparation and sexual engagement, each which is recorded with receipts, this not only vastly increases the number of produced services but also becomes a form of taxable income.
So it is innately beneficial for a government to encourage the dissolution of the family to maximize its income, even before we consider the notion that the family as an unit is a competing form of governance and as Hayek teaches us, the state is a jealous god that seeks to monopolize all forms of power.
I think this is part of an issue with the modern effort at quantification. Its useful – and necessary – that we understand the world through quantification of phenomenon with numbers, but some things are less easily quantifiable than others(happiness, social welfare, even long-term variability). Its fine to focus on what we can understand more than what we don’t, but it can dangerously lead to assuming that the less understood parts of the world don’t actually exist.
assume a woman wants kids and wants to give them the best start in life and thinks looking after those kids herself until they are some minimum age will give them the best start in life.
in a context where a man’s income can allow her to do that then if all men were shorter they’d prefer the least short but they’d still pick a manlet over not being able to stay home with the kids.
on the other hand you’re right that in a context where a man’s income is not enough to allow that choice then they’ll end up trying all sorts of other less optimal tactics – like focusing on a career of their own or competing in the thot wars for the 20% of men who can still provide that life (even if they were all manlets).
if his income was enough to allow her to stay home with the kids in an area with safe schools?
The Ukrainians don’t cease being a subset of the All-Russian nation just because many of them fancy themselves discount Poles instead – this just make them dupes and renegades not just in the secular realm, but in the sacred one as well. Hopefully God will show them mercy, and only punish the evildoers who have led them astray.
LOL, you didn’t even understand the comment you replied to.
Which ones and where? Was that in your post?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd0XalKUIAALhHO.jpg
You see a solid majority of Crimeans wanting to join Russia in all years except those when an ethnic Russian, Yanukovich, ruled Ukraine. And even then, 25% to 41% wanted to do so.
Only outlier was the Russian Human Rights Council Poll in 2014.
You also need to consider the possibility that it is men who aren’t interested in high-earning women, rather than the other way around.
As we would have said in junior high “casual observation shows that there are plenty of men interested in high-earning women.”
I take it you mean that he was the commenter here who made that claim. If so, that hardly qualifies as misinformation, since he provided a link to his source and you yourself agreed, if memory serves, that there had been some conflict or other that held up the collection of garbage.
Correct. It would be very much in women’s interests to expand the number of men who could “take us away from all this.”
I think that’s why you see so many working class women supporting Trump.
Either central Lviv was full of garbage or it was not. It was not. It was quite clean. The fact that garbage dumps outside the center were overflowing is a different matter. So he was writing nonsense when he claimed the city was full of garbage.
Does your husband earn less than you? There’s your answer.
You miss the point. It is mathematically impossible for women to be sexually satisfied in a world with “equality” and without a “pay gap”. Women don’t want to share a bed with an ‘equal’ partner.
Women will gladly take a 20% pay cut if it means a sexually satisfied, monogamous home life without adultery. The driver for ‘equality’ isn’t women, it’s men trying to optimize the economy.
Sure, ‘the Patriarchy’ is not economically efficient, but it was magnificent in keeping both men and women happy and satisfied at home.
You conflate here random and non-ideological war crimes — very much by-products of any war — with the willful extermination of a whole people. They did sing “We slaughtered the Jews, we will slaughter the Poles, old and young, every one; we will slaughter the Poles, we will build Ukraine” before actually murdering some 100,000 — mostly defenseless — Poles.
But the savagery of its murder sprees also sets the Ukrainian Insurgent Army apart from the Red Army, I think, for it speaks volumes about the kind of people who made it up and the kind of people who would, in 2018, erect statues and rename streets in their honor. As a quick refresher, here are some eyewitness accounts:
Janowa Dolina massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janowa_Dolina_massacre
Korosciatyn massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korosciatyn_massacre
Huta Pieniacka massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huta_Pieniacka_massacre
Poryck massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlivka,_Volyn_Oblast#Poryck_1943_massacre_of_Poles
Again, these are the people the Maidanites are erecting statutes of and renaming streets after, and you find the idea silly that this would have a chilling effect.
Anatoly, so your position is that some day Ukraine will be part of Russia again?
The most memetastic League of Legends video ever:
yup
LOL you don’t understand the reply, while thinking to know better.
Quibble on.
Keep tap dancing over one particular, while ignoring your numerous foibles, including the one claiming that Gogol became more pro-Russian on account of an older age, leading to increased incoherence on his part.
I recall that someone here expressed agreement to my reply to that fallacy – which noted a Soviet like psychiatry on your part. If anything, Gogol got wiser with age – something evident after his extended visit to the West.
Dag yo…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqnquwxW4AAFF0s?format=jpg
Peace.
I think his position is that the Ukraine is a part of Russia and it is heresy/treason to think otherwise.
Russian cities switch off the hot water supply for maintenance as late as October. I have had unavoidable cold showers more than once during an Autumn visit.
I am trying to give up commenting on blogs. Addictions are tough to break.
Yes, I know. Incinerating 100,000s of German and Japanese civilians, including women and children even though neither Japan nor Germany occupied Americans lands, was not so bad by America’s greatest generation but when primitive people slaughter people using their own cheap methods it is absolutely horrible.
Volhynia, the scene of much of these atrocities, was a very backward place. After Orthodox Churches were being burned down by Polish government, peasants openly stated that they will slaughter Poles one day, and they did so. Nothing done there was much different from what, for example, Khmelnytsky’s forces did in the 17th century, and for similar reasons. Or in the Balkans in the 1990s. Yet somehow Russians think Khmelnytsky was a great guy but Bandera was evil. Hmn..I wonder why? (for the record, I consider them both to have been very bad).
But these modern Banderists have as much in common with those people committing atrocities in the woods 70 years ago as do the 53% of Russians who think Stalin was a great man have to do with 1930s NKVD torture chambers. One could point out to that statistic, describe grisly crimes committed in the 1930s, and then state how scary and chilling things are in modern Russia. That’s kind of like what you try to peddle here.*
As for “chilling effect” – here is a Jewish oligarch having fun with Banderist symbols:
https://pdsnpsr.ru/uploads/illustration/image/0/15/1516/medium_536074_300.jpg
Yes, it is so scary.
There is a Bandera-themed bar in Lviv on the market square. Designed by the grandchild of a Soviet officer. There was a cute black cat named Bandera who lived in that place. One of the items on the menu was called “meat of Moskal.”
So scary and chilling.
My Russian wife was almost as scared in that place as I was when I saw the COBA (reference to Stalin) restaurant in Chelyabinsk. It was chilling.
*And you will say – that they are not building monuments to Stalin now. But Bandera, let’s face it, was no Stalin.
I do not publish any information that I do not corroborate. I do not use only Russian media as a source, and don’t quite understand what constitutes Yanukovich media.
But you can suggest the sources I can use if you think my range is limited. If you can’t do that, your criticism of me suck big hairy balls, and you are not worth talking to.
YOURS TRULLY, INSOMNIAC RESURRECTED
Yanukovych was Belorussian you dumbo…
Belarussian father, Russian mother, ignoramus.
Russia is either unwilling, or unable, or both, to do anything about Ukrainism. Ukraine may be a country without bright perspectives but it is independent and increasingly less influenced by Russia. Ukrainians may as well realise their dream of being discount Poles in this century.
I also have a Russian mother, and a German grandmother, Ukrainian grandfather… but I’m Czech.
It is almost like West Ukrainians were dissatisfied with Yanukovych, and were bused into Kiev to protest against him.
Why hasn’t Ukraine created a system where the rights and sensitivities would be accounted for. Instead the constitution of Ukraine is that of a centralised, unitary and presidential republic. Completely unsuited to the format of Ukraine but well suited for sultanism, as Alexander Motyl called it. Although, the latter does not call Poroshenko’s reign sultanism because he clearly is on Poroshenko’s payroll.
LOL. With other bad sources.
That’s the least of what you don’t understand.
Why should I do your job?
This isn’t about sources, but take your most recent post, where you claim there was conscious Polonization because the Ukrainian word for city, misto, is like Polish but old city names in Ukraine use horod instead (I see nobody bothered commenting).
No evidence there was something “deliberate” about the change. The speech in Ukraine was flooded with Polish words during hundreds of years of Polish rule, just as the speech in England was flooded with French words after the Norman invasion. Nothing “deliberate” in either case. Those old city names in Ukraine simply preceded Polish rule. So you took a banal and well-known fact (Ukrainian language is loaded with Polish words, as English is with French words and for similar reasons) and added a fantasy to it, commonly held by Russian nationalists, that this was part of a deliberate ploy to differentiate Ukrainian from Russian. Yawn.
It’s why your blog is a waste of time, unless one wants to know what gullible pro-Russian people think about Ukraine.
And lol, in modern Kiev, “switching off the hot water supply for maintenance” for 6 months.
By the way, way give up commenting on blogs? It’s good mental stimulation or at least sometimes exercises your brain.
By citizenship and place of birth. Your interests are in Russia.
Typical “Yanukovych media” = e.g. Korrespondent, which is mostly factual, but features many sensationalist stories on both Russia and the Ukraine (for clickbait, not ideological, reasons). Highly r-selected comments largely consisting of svidomy and vatniks trolling each other, though it does occasionally purge its Russophile commentariat. Not exactly a tool of Russian influence.
“True” Ukrainian media = e.g. Censor.net, a deranged svidomy resource jampacked with crazed Ukrainian nationalists who mostly write in Russian. Though there are a few respectable publications here, e.g. Ukrayinska Pravda. One of the very few news websites where you see intelligent Ukrainian language comments.
There are a few overt Russian-sponsored projects, Ukraina.ru (which the South Russian nationalist Chalenko writes for) comes to mind, but they are marginal on the Ukrainian informational field.
I wasn’t aware of this. Is this what most Russians think?
Do most Russians think Ukranians will come to their senses or do they think war will be needed?
It’s just arguing about what a parallel dimension modern Ukraine’s school system exists in, where a generation now think this is cool cosplay.
In real life, Banderovites were participating in massacres of Jews and Poles.
But in Ukraine, people who go to school in 1990s and 2000s must have received some “interesting” history lessons.
My friend was spamming about this story below a couple years ago.
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Lead host of Israel’s Channel 9 (News Channel) – Ukrainian nationalist with Bandera shirt.
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/mevaker/20840091/94117/94117_original.jpg
Meanwhile, Israelis – including old people who were living in the war – are receiving their news about Israeli parliament from this girl.
https://i.imgur.com/yQvi5dY.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/p/BK-NMmTDn6z
How do manage this cognitive dissonance ?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1033145843471856&set=pb.100003293490210.-2207520000.1540766341.&type=3&theater
At least they have some kind of sense of humour about the contradiction-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1538103779642724&set=pb.100003293490210.-2207520000.1540766432.&type=1&theater
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So obviously also people exist who have shirts with Che Guevara or Stalin. Two errors do not give the right one. I could buy a Hitler shirt?
And in real life Americans were massacring Germans and Japanese. They had the money and means to do it from the skies. And Germany and Japan never invaded the USA (was Hawaii a real core US land?). But Poland occupied western Ukraine and the local Polish government planned to expel most ethnic Ukrainians (the majority) from their homeland after the war. Both sides committed crimes, but whose crimes had more reasonable motive? But Americans celebrate their greatest generation. How many Arabs have died in actions that make Israel safe? How many 100,000s of civilians died due to the calculated actions of evil Soviet partisans? Will Russians spit on the memory of partisans? But Ukrainians, alone, don’t have a right to have idealized fairtytales about people with dark aspects of their past.
Bandera was no Hitler or Stalin. Maybe a Che Guevara.
Is this what most Russians think?
I assume that this is what most Russian nationalists think. Irredentism is a standard feature of vigorous nationalism.
Obviously, coups aside, people living in Ukraine have a right to self-determination and self-governance, to create their own national identity if that’s what people want.*
Escalation of conflict with Kiev, would be a worst possible outcome. With economic development, Kiev might even become a more normal and peaceful leaders, like in a more developed country – that does not have fanatical desires to re-write history, erase part of their public’s culture, then bomb parts of the land when they resist this.
If Ukraine becomes a more developed and less fanatical country by 2030, this would be cool. Attitude of the leadership might even change in a few years – it’s happening in Georgia.
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*Although America is not able to talk about this, considering what occurred to the Confederate states between 1861-65.
*Although America is not able to talk about this,
I was thinking the same thing. The Ukraine is virtual recreation of the slave states in 1861.
On account of the former not having the same numbers and power base as the latter. Pound for pound, the indications are that Bandera wouldn’t have been better – quite likely worse.
Born on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR and elected as Ukraine’s president, before being overthrown under coup like circumstances – svido propaganda aside.
Guevara didn’t come across more as a worldly though misguided IMO internationalist than a nationalist – once again noting that Bandera pound for pound was very much a murdering expansionist fiend.
A Georgian political figure had pretty much expressed the same regarding Russia-Georgia and Ukraine-Georgia:
https://www.rt.com/shows/worlds-apart-oksana-boyko/439961-georgia-russia-geography-destiny/
One of the more informative shows among the 24/7 English language TV news networks. One on one roughly half hour segments, with a broad range of views, minus the kind of interrupting insults that prop up elsewhere.
Thanks for the reply – it only consolidates my views about you as being romantically lost in a reality that doesn’t exist. Firstly, there is no ‘All Russian nation’. At best, it’s a political idea that never existed. Reality shows us that separate nations developed out of a medieval conglomeration of often warring principalities know as Rus. You can’t recreate something that never existed in the first place – therefore you’re trying to push a fairy tale.
Secondly, I find your admonitions referencing God as comical if not illogical. Doesn’t your bio clearly state that you’re a ‘Russian Orthodox atheist‘? This is also clearly a non-sequitur. An atheist cannot be an Orthodox Christian, no matter how hard he tries. Your appeals to a God that you don’t believe in are falling on deaf, non-extant ears. It’s funny, if not pathetic?
‘Discount Poles’ – the only thing that deserves discounting are your opinions regarding the Ukrainian nation. You’re really ill equipped to discuss Ukrainian matters, as I’ve indicated before, you’ve never even read one single book related to Ukrainian history. Even Averko has read Subtelny’s history! 🙂
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No, pound for pound Bandera was Lenin-deadly, not Stalin-deadly. Also, his ideology wanted Ukraine clear of Poles and Russians and Jews but was not expansionist nor aggressive towards those peoples not in Ukraine. OUN had cells in Krakow and Warsaw but unlike Chechens in Moscow, didn’t kill any civilians there.
Basically it was a national liberation movement like IRA for the genocidal “Bloodlands.”
Except centuries of different history, different language, etc. And no slavery.
When I looked at links from Ukraine by Ukraine “experts”, they were often written by or interviews with people from the Yanukovich administration, discussing the post-Maidan situation.
But there is also Buzina’s newspaper Сегодня, and Вести. The latter has murky links to Yanukovich clan member Victor Polishchuk.
Yeah, and a half Honduran, half-Mexican guy born in a Spanish-speaking border city like El PAso is just as much an American as a typical Iowan.
It’s interesting that two classic Christmas movies, Miracle on 34th Street and It’s a Wonderful Life, have open in-your-face propaganda of suburbs. Did the developers pay the filmmakers for advertising? Or “a suburban house is the best thing ever” was just a common sentiment of the time? Who knows. It was weird to see because now it’s fashionable to bash them instead.
Bandera violently sought his vision of an independent Ukraine in a way that included extremely murderous action in WW II, beyond what the IRA actually did on the whole. Hence, it’s quite reasonable to surmise that if Bandera had the resources, he’d be every bit as violent as Stalin pound for pound, if not more so, in pursuing that aim. Bandera like Stalin, also violently opposed opponents otherwise allied to the cause of an independent Ukraine.
Stalin represented a larger chunk of land in the USSR. He went against those opposing world revolution in a practical way. That pragmatism went into the tail end of WW II and thereafter. His forces didn’t have to pull out of Austria. They did on the basis of an agreement with the West that Austria would be neutral. Instead of really sticking it to Finland, he allowed for a non-Soviet bloc, but neutral Finland. In Greece, he didn’t come to the aid of the Communists there, in order to honor his agreement with the West. The pro-Soviet bloc states in eastern and central Europe were created to better ensure the defense of the USSR against any future attack from the West.
There are still men who do factory and IT jobs in America. Are women beating down their doors to marry them?
The question is why would factory and IT jobs be the solution here? What’s the mechanism? Is there something about factory and IT work that makes them inherently irresistible to women? Of course not. Women generally do not fantasize about marrying factory and IT workers. Women who can now get money from the government or through jobs and can live independently have the freedom to pursue romantic partners. They no longer have to settle for the factory worker but have the freedom to pursue their fantasies and try to seek higher status men. Countries like Germany that have had kept large manufacturing sectors have still seen declines in the family and fertility.
The only way having factory and IT jobs for men would work is if women’s economic and social status were lowered below that of male factory and IT workers. Otherwise, they’d just be a bunch of losers working in the factory and in IT. In effect, they would be slaves, who would only work in factories/IT if forced to for basic survival, because dropping out rather than making some other men rich or revolting and trying to impose patriarchy would make more sense.
Good question. The modern classic Christmas movie Home Alone also prominently features a large suburban house. I remember when the movie came out, everyone thought the house was great and wanted to live in it. The traditional “American Dream” of a large house filled with lots of consumer goods is probably tied up with the suburbs because you need a large network of roads and space to distribute so many goods and spacious homes to lots of people.
Another idiotic comparison:
The US isn’t about ready to elect someone with that background as president. In overall terms, a Ukrainian born person to parents of Belarusian and Russian backgrounds stands to be better accepted in Ukraine, than your example in the US.
Because your criticism of me is invalid and dishonest. And as I said, if you can’t produce names of websites that I ought to use, instead of those that I am using, you are not worth talking to.
Have a nice day.
I heard the accusation that Chalenko is an SBU informant… But I would use Ukraina.ru if they published something interesting. At present I am grappling with Polish to translate a funny post from a Polish website.
I honestly cannot accept the accusation that I only use Russian or Yanukovych (whatever that is) sources only. It is very dishonest, and factually untrue.
Discount Poles is actually a fitting term, and definitely does not come from someone ill equipped to discuss Ukrainian matters. It is actually very close to defining the essence of Ukrainism.
Ukrainian nationalism is actually a political movement that aims to create a nation out of a polonised creole culture on the territory of Ukraine.
And you will not get a better definition anywhere, not even in Subtelny.
Don’t feel bad, sometimes things go right over my head too.
Another really poor attempt to discredit the Ukrainian national project. Outside of a few loan words, what can you point to to try and substantiate this silly claim? In the pre-modern period, Ukrainian Cossack dress and macho lifestyle gravitated from the east to the Polish west and was known as ‘sarmatism’. Even Poland’s only real attempt to try and Polanise its Ruthenian (read Ukrainian) subjects by spreading its brand of Christianity to Ukrainian lands totally backfired: the resulting Uniate church became the refuge and stronghold of Ukrainian culture, if not instrumental in the incubation of future Ukrainian nationalists who finally repelled any last vestiges of Polish influence in Ukraine in the early 20th century. Polish literature, similarly to Russian, developed a ‘Ukrainian school’, devoted to Ukrainian themes, not the other way around.
I’ve looked at Karlin’s large list of books that he included in his own personal library at his old blog, and not a single book was devoted to Ukrainian subject matter. I can only conclude that he’s a severe dilettante in Ukrainian subject matters and must get any if not all of his ideas from second rate Russian (read sovok) website sources (where I believe you do to, at least as far as AP is concerned. 🙂 )
I think that this very sorry state of affairs is changing quickly, and hopefully wont repeat itself anytime soon, thanks to the disrespect that Yanukovich exhibited towards Ukrainian culture. Poroshenko, for all of his faults, has show great deference towards the Ukrainian language, culture and religion in spite of his mixed ethnic background. As a Jew, you could learn a thing or two from Poroshenko in this respect, Mickey!
Yeah, and a half Honduran, half-Mexican guy born in a Spanish-speaking border city like El PAso is just as much an American as a typical Iowan.
Actually, he would be.
I totally agree with your assessment of this ‘Czech’s’ latest addition to his ‘new’ butthurting blog. You’ve actually done him the service of summarizing his ‘findings’ and coming up with a conclusion, because he doesn’t seem bright enough to do so himself (he doesn’t actually come out and claim that ‘there was conscious Polonization because the Ukrainian word for city, misto, is like Polish’ but this most probably is what he was aiming to achieve with his ‘brilliant’ latest installment),
I think that I’ll allow this ‘Insomniac’ to wallow away in his own bed of unresolved domestic ethnic conundrums. As far as his resurrection is concerned, I feel it’s best to allow sleeping dogs to lie! 🙂
UNDP 2009 Q3 and UNDP 2009 Q4.
Yanuk. was elected in Q1/2010.
Russophile sentiments did basically not change between Q3/Q4 2009 and Q/4 2011 despite Yanuk’s rule.
The other outliner are McCain’s IRL and Kiev’s KIIS.
Ukrainian peasants remained enserfed under Polish nobles way into the nineteenth century, when the first ideas that latter crystalised into Ukrainian nationalism appeared. Also, the Uniate Church was common in Polish controlled areas, hence it was a perfect representation of the polonised creole culture that I talk about. Ukraine cannot jettison the Polish influence because in that case her existence as a separate entity from the Russians would be put in question.
I personally do not try to discredit the Ukrainian national project. The Ukrainian national project successfully parasited upon Russia’s weakness throughout the twentieth century, it was helped into existence by such friends of Russia as the Austrians, the Bolsheviks, and the Americans. And it is likely not going away. Ukraine the state however is not a very successful national project. But don’t worry, Czechoslovakia also was a failure.
It does not mean, Ukraine will not exist 100 years from now but it may undergo further transformations, the like we have seen in 2014.
However, can you prove that the Polish form was not consciously chosen by Ukrainian language creators over the Russian form? I am fine with the knowledge that it was a common form used among Ukrainians but that would mean you fail to counterargument my claim of historical polonisation.
I think it is your svidomite ass, and AP’s that looks stupid trying to counterargument “Discount Poles”. I have the evidence, what do you have?
Also it is said here that the English language has a heavy French influence. Somehow I do not see the the English denying that. Also, nobody would call the English discount French because they are cool with who they are.
So why does the imbecile Mr. Hack try to deny Polish influence on Ukrainian language? The “Discount Poles” label really isn’t that far off the mark.
Total nonsense and betrays your own ignorance of Ukrainian history. The Ukrainian idea, in a modern sense, first appeared in Eastern and Central Ukraine during the early 19th century and then migrated to the West to areas that were under Polish control. More proof that you don’t know what you’re talking about and why AP has correctly characterized you and your ‘resurrected’ blog as being a ‘waste of time’. Everything that follows in your reply is additional BS that stems from your miscue in your opening sentence.
I don’t know how you define ‘jettison’, but OUN/UPA operations in Volhynia and to a lesser extent in Galicia in the early 20th century certainly weren’t a friendly endorsement or sentimental prelude to strengthening ‘Polish influence’ in Ukraine, as you so glibly assert. Only prolonged years of sucking on a bong could help promote such outlandish statements..T….., er, I mean Insomniac. 🙂
For the record, I’m not denying the Polish influence on the Ukrainian language. Anything else up your empty sleeve, Insomniac? (you really need some sleeping pills. Cannabis often enough causes anxiety in its users making sleep difficult).
Why should I have to prove that something ‘was not’ when you haven’t even proved that something ‘was’? Another ridiculous notion coming from the mill of the fantastic world of ‘what wasn’t and what was’ according to a delusional Insomniac? 🙂
Look Luis, I have to get ready and go to work and don’t have time to be your playpal right now. Why don’t you get Averko to comment at your blog and the two of you unemployed bums can give each other high fives and back pats all day long? BTW, how’s your Bohemian gardening going – any new strains of bud that you’ll be soon endorsing within ‘High Times’?…:-)
Indeed, I did not prove anything, I just suggested that it is strange when Ukrainian cities bear one name, and the language uses another. As if there was a process of historic polonisation, or even better, there could have been a conscious polonisation with the aim to make Ukrainian different from Russia at any any expense?
So which is it? You seem triggered by both notions, and I’m loving it.
Weren’t Polish nobles over there? As far as I know, the Russian Empire did not remove Polish nobility. So I don’t get where I’m wrong. I did not say anything about where the Ukrainian idea appeared. You are trying to catch me on something I did not even say, only shows how stupid you are.
The aforementioned English also had 100 years of war with the French, and still don’t deny French influence upon their asses. Your neurotic attempts to deny the obvious are quite funny to me.
Are you not? But how did it appear then? OH NO! POLONISATON!
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The answer is simple…Poland, a country of limited culture, an abysmal amount of achievements, chooses to be more anti-Russia, then anti ukro-Nazi. How does that disprove the excellent Anon, you cretin?
Joint activities in WW2 did not help the Soviet’s with the Brits and Americans you thick dipshit.
Poles have tried the same BS in Belarus you idiot
There is simply no such thing as “Ukrainian” you dipshit- just some bastardised, discredited and irrelevant form of failed Polish imperialism
Enjoy being a wage slave, I personally don’t have to work and can still pay for everything. This is the difference between bums like you and bums like me.
The Bolsheviks made bloody sure there is something like Ukrainian today. It is not healthy denying the existence of Ukraine and Ukrainians. They are here.
Living on mama’s dacha in Bohemia probably doesn’t take much coin I’m guessing, does she still wash your clothes too? 🙂
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Not in all Ukrainian cities. And even those where the Russian language is prominent due to centuies of Russification, the Russian idea ha lost terribly – it’s common knowledge that many Ukrainian Russian speakers look down upon Russia and its current policies.
You don’t provide an answer to my question posed in the quotation of mine that you’re trying to respond to. If Ukrainians were so enamored withe the Polish language and culture, why did they act so mercilessly to Poles in the early- mid 20th century? Neither you nor Luis can provide an answer and so skirt the issue.
Yeah, and I pay her bills… and that’s a great life.
I think It’s a Wonderful Life was meant to be smalltown America, which is distinct from the suburbs. Of course, with the housing development that sort of conflates things, and I could see how you could make an argument anyway.
I’ve wondered about the effect that the suburbs have had on Hollywood and entertainment in the West in general. I don’t get quite the same vibe from China or Japan.
Tangentially, if I were one of those rich Chinese billionaires, I’d remake a lot American hits from that period when America was a more optimistic place, for a Chinese audience. I think they would devour it.
Like Uzhhorod? How many centuries of Muscovite rule can you count?
errr….. there are 15 million in employment in Ukraine you thick tramp….75 million in Russia. That’s 1 :5 difference , even though, officially, the difference is supposed to be a little higher than 1:3. Even allowing for better unemployment rates, Belarus has 4.5 million workers- even though it’s population is supposed to be dwarfed by Banderastans by 1:5 ratio ……even more embarrassing considering that Ukraine should have had the advantage for years over Russia of proportionately higher workers from the increased pension ages for women, low life expectancy of Russian men for many years until recently, areas in Russia covering millions of people with extreme cold/and or daylight and reduced or post-Soviet industrial decay
then factor in numerous other things like the food statistics, economic statistics , visiting numerous Ukrainian cities and seeing the infrastructure, whilst collapsing and poorly maintained , still exists there on a large scale that vastly seems to outnumber the number of people I see around there, and many other things………then it is beyond braindead….even for a nutjob troll vermin as yourself to even think to claim that Ukraine doesn’t have a severe population shortage with a population anywhere between 22-3o million at the moment
Stupid false argument, to an argument I never even made. “Ukrainians” in every face of life are Russian…but with the disruptive scumbag activities of the Americans and Polish controlling the Ukrainian elites we have this stupid situation.
I actually commend you for helping your mother out, I do remember there was some semblance of humanity within that cold Ukrainaphobic heart of yours.
Not even close, the IRA (in either incarnation) did not want to remove Ulstermen/Protestants from Ireland, let alone start burning Presbyterian churches. And Poles have done a lot less to Ukrainians than the British did to the Irish.
You should come read my blog sometimes.
I have, and don’t really find it much different than the stuff you were putting out 3 years ago.
Reply to your comment 247:
I’ve never been to Uzhhorod, but can easily imagine that one would hear many languages and dialects on the streets of that city close to the borders of 3 neighboring countries. I do know that 1,000,000 out of 1,200,000 inhabitants of that oblast are perfectly content with their Ukrainian ethnicity, and haven’t really been swayed to abandon it by any ‘Rusyn’ movement over the last 20+ years. More proof that Russophilism in its ‘rusyn’ variant is moribund in Ukraine.
But why does Uzhhorod have an Eastern slavic name for a city, when Ukrainian uses a Western slavic word for a cities?
My point is that either the people, who have built Uzhhorod were not Ukrainian speakers, or Ukrainian language is something invented later.
Also, Ukraine has suppressed regional identity in Subcarpathia, Rusyn identity is popular just across the border in Slovakia. Again a testament to Ukraine being some artificially created and imposed upon the people.
Do you think if people of Transcarpathia were given a choice, they would identify with Ukraine? The amount of Hungarian passports distributed there suggests the opposite.
So sez you. Poroshenko exhibits disrespect to the pro-Russian view among Ukrainians and others in the former Ukrainian SSR. Yanukovych (his faults aside) wasn’t anti-Ukrainian. I can see why the svidos oppose him.
Being Jewish and/or having a mixed background doesn’t automatically pertain to how someone views these matters.
Asked with some trepidation, work as what? Your trolling attempt to get personal info is duly noted. You’re the anonymous coward here.
There it is, proof positive, Uzhhorod and Zakarpattya were always Russian and not Ukrainian, all based on Luis’ impeccable research of one single word! Bravo!! 🙂
More BS from our ‘expert’ on Ukrainian identity issues. If you really knew something about the topic, you’d know that the largest Rusyn’ festival in Slovakia is held in Svidnik, Slovakia – and is assuredly Ukrainian in its orientation (probably to the disgust of some Slovakian politicians). You’re so out of touch with reality Luis, it’s no wonder that AP states you’re a complete waste of time! 🙂
http://svidnik.sk/en/festival-of-ruthenian-ukrainian-culture-in-slovakia/
I most certainly do for the 1,000,ooo inhabitants who list their ethnicity as Ukrainians. Much less so for the 120,000 inhabitants who are Hungarian, and about the 10,000 ‘Rusyns’, who cares??….
As I wrote, it was an Eastern European in 1940s version of IRA.
No, he just wanted Poles and Jews out. After Volhynia UPA was as likely to expell them as to kill them.
In terms of murdered civilians, OUN/UPA killed about 100,000 Poles, 30,000 Jews, and 60,000 Ukrainians (people managing collective farms, commie mayors, “informants” for Soviets and their families). We can round that up to 200,000 in a territory with about 7 million people. Stalin killed about 9 million civilians. USSR population was about 26 times times that of Galicia plus Volhynia, so on a USSR scale OUN/UPA would have killed 5.2 million people. But Stalin killed 9 million people. So Bandera’s movement was half as bad as Stalin.
And Bandera’s movement, unlike Chechens in Moscow, didn’t harm any Polish or other civilians living outside Ukrainian ethnographic territory. They only claimed land with a Ukrainian majority and history.
Well, if the goal were a more “Polish” product the basis of the Ukrainian language would have been the Galician dialect, or at least the speech in Volhynia (the most Polish part of the Russian Empire Ukraine). Instead, the Poltava dialect was chosen, because it was the most ethnically pure Ukrainian region (see the Russian census of 1897). So the primary motivation was purity.
I’ve not asked you or anybody else here to reveal any information about their personal lives. If you have done so yourself, and then cry wolf later, so what – it’s your problem, not mine! 🙂
You said that you were going to work. Did you get a sudden pink slip? Not that I care to especially know. I’m not the one here with a problem.
With the IRA being in overall terms less brutal than the OUN/UPA.
You didn’t successfully refute at all the pound for pound point about the OUN/UPA murder capability likely increasing if it had greater strength.
In the 1930s, the Bandera involved OUN/UPA engaged in terrorist activity. Upon further review, it wouldn’t surprise to find that some of these acts occurred in Poland and outside of primarily Ukrainian inhabited territory.
When somebody goes to work, this means that they’re employed. Get it?…
JRL Hypocrite
The JRL editor has been known to privately lecture some individuals on appropriate manner.
Re: http://russialist.org/russia-ukraine-johnsons-russia-list-table-of-contents-jrl-2018-189-monday-29-october-2018/
From one of the JRL court appointed Russia friendly regulars – in this case an anonymous blogger with a Sovok (Soviet nostalgic) leaning:
https://awfulavalanche.wordpress.com/2018/10/28/russians-react-to-megyn-kelly-firing-part-ii/
Excerpt –
That characterization of Bertrand is noticeably different from what I’ve said about people thinking along her lines. Regarding the subject matter about “Putin’s Russia” and white supremacists:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/07/12/more-mumbo-jumbo-on-russia.html
Excerpt –
Upon further reading, the above linked Strategic Culture Foundation article provides examples concerning what’s said in the excerpt about McFaul, Ioffe, Figliuzzi, Peters and Clinton, without using a word like “whore”.
And you said that you were going to work a short time ago. What happened? Not that I care to know. Just to highlight a contradiction on your part. You appear to be a bum yourself – noting your use of that characterization of two commenters at these threads.
I made my adieus to Luis at 2:20 GMT time (check for yourself). That’s 7:20 am my time. Isn’t that early enough to go to work, Sherlock? 🙂
Hypotheticals don’t count. What of Stalin had nukes in the 1930s, or whatever. Reality is that Bandera was about half a deadly as Stalin pound-for-pound.
Yes, they did. And none of it occurred against Polish civilians in Polish territory such as in Krakow where OUN had cells (killing the Interior Minister doesn’t count).
One of the hero’s good deeds is helping poor people move from derelict rental apartments into newly built houses on a plot near the town (that becomes a graveyard in alternative reality) by giving them cheap loans in his bank. I thought it reflected (in a romanticized way with a saintly banker) the historical process of the 1940s.
I live among the 40s developments and they’re actually nice – houses are human sized and each has its own distinctive façade, so the street doesn’t look boring. Lots of green around and big grown trees. I’ve also visited the new Toronto suburbs (giant houses wall against wall, no space planned for future trees, no variety in façade design) – this is what’s soul-crushing, isolating and whatever urbanists complain about.
It was an eastern European in the 1940s version of IRA. (in the 1930s it was very much like the IRA, however).
The context was different. Thanks to Stalin and Hitler, genocide no longer involved thinking outside the box. And it was looking like a choice of – ethnically cleanse them, or get ethnically cleansed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia#Second_World_War
“Due to perceived Ukrainian collaboration with the Soviet government in 1939–1941 and with the later German administration, the general consensus among local Poles was that Ukrainians ought to be removed from these territories. In July 1942 a memorandum by the staff of the Home Army in Lviv in July 1942 recommended that between 1 million and 1.5 million Ukrainians be deported from Galicia and Volhynia to the Soviet Union and the rest scattered throughout Poland.”
If the IRA was faced with the choice of eliminating the Protestants, or be eliminated themselves, and had the means to eliminate the Protestants, what do you think they would have done?
Reality is that Bandera and his forces showed a considerable propensity for violence – thus leading to the well reasoned view that pound for pound he wasn’t noticeably less brutal than Stalin.
Reminded somewhat of Patton’s legacy. If Patton had his way, he would’ve risked the lives of his troops even more so than he did – on account of his having to obey orders from above. In Bandera’s case, he didn’t have the numbers and overall might of Stalin.
Maybe the IRA might’ve acted as badly as Bandera and his forces, if faced with the same circumstances. The number of IRA killed civilians versus the number of OUN/UPA killed civilians is a prime issue concerning the comparison.
Have better things to do. You work as what – janitor, clerk, garbage pickup? All worthy professions – especially for someone of your exhibited speed.
Some recent Russia related sports news:
https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/10/29/china-wins-gymnastics-world-men-team-title/
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1071593/russia-dominate-final-session-to-end-2018-world-wrestling-championships-with-10-golds
https://www.rt.com/sport/442552-elizaveta-tuktamysheva-exhibition-program-toxic/
I agree. The earlier housing developments were superior – each house had it’s own character. The scale of everything was right.
Too often, the places that are made now evoke some of the things which are wrong with society, including the prices of houses.
I don’t feel any obligation to tell you what I do for a living, as you’ve never disclosed your ‘profession’, nor do I really care to know. However, somebody who knows you better than I do once stated that you flip hamburgers for a living – nothing wrong with that, it’s honest work, if not very highly paid. It must be hard for you to live in an expensive city like New York. Let me guess, is it Crown Heights or perhaps Ridgewood??
You lie again. The anonymous coward (like yourself) La Russophobe/Kim Zigfeld made that hamburger flipping reference – not knowing what I do.
Likewise, with your trolling concerning my neighborhood, which is quite pleasant.
On the perverted “Ukrainian Orthodox Church”:
https://russian-faith.com/news/st-george-slays-double-headed-eagle-sacrilegious-new-icon-ukraine-n1797
Look Mickey, you opened up this line of inquiry in comment #256 asking about my profession. Don’t get ticked off because it ended up going somewhere you don’t like. In the future, don’t open up a can of worms you don’t want to eat. (Just between you and me, is it Burger King or McDonalds?). 🙂
You lie again. At this thread, you were the one who brought up the subject of your going to work, in conjunction with the aside you made on that matter, relative to two commenters at this thread.
It has been quite some time since I stepped into a Burger King or McDonalds. Prefer a quality diner burger or making it on my own.
It’s true, I first mentioned that I was going to work, and had to make my reply a short one (and not even in reply to you). But, I don’t see why that would give you license to inquire any further as to what I do for a living? Seems to me like it’s you who’s the nosy one here, not me. You asked:
Who’s lying and who’s just clueless here? 🙂
Another distortion on your part. When highlighting your going to work, you proceeded to second guess that aspect of life regarding two commenters at this thread – one of them being yours truly.
That presentation for you opened up the legit option for follow-up.
You lose on the actual intended subject matter of these threads, as well as the off topic banter which you bring up.
Quite pathetic on your part.
You still haven’t established that you work for a living, so in my mind you’re still a bum!
You don’t flip hamburgers (you’ve established that) and you can’t be living off of obscure one off radio or tv interviews that come around at best every 4-5 years!
(collecting an allowance from daddy doesn’t count) 🙂
Since I opened up this line of inquiry according to you, and you’ve certainly decided to pursue this line, here’s your chance to tell us what you do for a living, Mickey?…………………
errrm…you’re jealous of Mikhail because he is an extremely skillful and intelligent poster with an obviously good and stable life, whereas you are somebody who hangs around in playgrounds looking for kids to do Banderite activity with you laughable cretin
On a more amusing note, a wise woman once said “Yats is the guy”
Yats was indeed the guy as the wise woman Victoria Nuland once said………….
……”the guy” for embezzlement, making counterfeit documents, money laundering, extreme incompetence. If anything encapsulated what a farcical, morally corrupt, scumbag failed and fake state Ukraine is…it’s this latest farce, on top of all the millions of other stuff.
It was obvious he was doing this stuff even afew years ago, only thing here is that the ones accusing him of this are also doing it
( Yatsenyuk, the hapless scumbag war criminal om Donbass and Chechnya tuned PM of Ukraine, turned failed PM of Ukraine, turned 1 more retarded Badnerite who has fled the fake country)
Yo coward,
What is your actual name and what do you do for a living?
I don’t know about all of that, however, I do know that he parrots himself around as an ‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst’. Sounds pretty impressive don’t you think? The only problem is that you don’t need any particular background, education or credentials to fulfill the requirements for such a title.
Think about it Gerard2, you too can become an ‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst’, by just referring to yourself as one, as can any schmuck commentator at this site, or anywhere else for that matter! I think that it makes you sound quite credible and distinguished, don’t you?
Gerard2, Independent Foreign Policy Analyst. 🙂
It’s none of your business, Mickey.
WaPo Jewry Article
Re: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/10/31/strange-twist-fate-now-its-russian-jews-praying-american-jews/?utm_term=.33e807663dff
Excerpt –
More accurately put, the Cold War era saw the USSR take a geopolitically motivated anti-Zionist/anti-Israeli line, which isn’t necessarily anti-Jewish. Somewhat reminded of those who say that being against the Russian government isn’t necessarily anti-Russian.
Despite the aforementioned restrictions, Jews in the Soviet Union compared socioeconomically well to other ethnic groups in that dictatorship – which adhered to a set of beliefs, known for being theoretically opposed to all religions. The aforementioned restrictions bring to mind the matter of affirmative action in the US and a recent Fox News segment of Harvard University discriminating against Asian applicants.
If I’m not offhand mistaken, the described Soviet internal passports listed the stated ethnic group of the given person – “J” or otherwise. Zionism supports the idea of a Jewish nation. It has been said that some people of Jewish background in the USSR listed their ethnic identity as something other than Jewish. Soviet census taking allowed the individual to have some leeway on how they wanted to be ethnically listed.
During the Cold War, there was a noticeable US political activity seeking justice for Soviet Jews. There was also the reality that living conditions in the US and the West in general, was considerably better than in the USSR. At the time, it was understood that the best way to get US approval for entry was to claim being ethnically discriminated against, as opposed to seeking a better economic standing.
I know a pro-Israeli Jewish attorney who worked for the INS reviewing Soviet Jewish applicants. According to him and some others, a good number of the stories about persecution seem exaggerated, if not completely made up. In addition, there has been second guessing on just how Jewish the background of some (not all) of the applicants.
I don’t dispute that the USSR, post-Soviet Russia and some other parts of the world have (in varying degrees) what Jeffrey Goldberg described relative to the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Goldberg
BTW, there’re some golf clubs on Long Island that are known for not taking in Jewish members.
Your being a schmuck doesn’t make me one. Regarding yours truly, the independent foreign policy analyst and media critic designations were initially characterized by others – who recognize the substantive value of my input.
You’ll have some legitimacy as an openly identifiable person (as opposed to an anonymous crank), who has appeared at high profile venues for the purpose of providing quality analysis on the actual intended topics of discussion.
I seriously doubt it – name somebody (besides yourself) who dubbed you with this designation…
Goes back a good few years and has continued on since at a number of high profile venues which list as such.
Sure beats your trolling input.
I didn’t ask you how far back this comedy has been going on, but who (as in naming somebody) is responsible for dubbing you with this nomenclature in the first place (other than yourself)? Remember you stated:
I’m trying to verify who the ‘others’ were that you allude to? Capiche?
You really are quite dull and boring. No comedy in my fact based commentary, which the likes of yourself haven’t successfully refuted.
Over the years, Counterpunch, Global Research and the Strategic Culture Foundation, are among the venues referring to me as such – something going back to around this time, if not before:
http://www.russialist.org/archives/9060-3.php
Meantime, you haven’t come close to marching such. Ditto getting academically referenced. In short, you’re a pathetic hump.
Should read as:
Meantime, you haven’t come close to matching such.
Look Mickey, I don’t doubt for one minute that the title ‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst’ has been used in bios at different rags, I mean venues, where your outstanding opinions have been ‘published’.I was just interested in finding out what moron first ascribed this high sounding salutation to your name? I think that you did it yourself and just forwarded it on to be used, and whoever used it was sloppy and didn’t pay much attention? You seem to have a hard time coming up with any names??…
Not at all. You fail as a troll and and even worse when trying to comment on the actual subject matter – all relating to why you haven’t been able to substantively rebuke my fact based commentary.
“Rags’ as in svido leaning World Affairs Journal don’t apply to me.
You seem to have a hard time coming up with any names??…
Not at all troll. Appearing at numerous high profile venues with top quality analysis on a range of key foreign policy, historical, media and sports issues – exhibiting a high level of aptitude, which you haven’t come close to matching as an anonymous coward, who has been unable to substantively support his rehashed and boring insults.
Nevertheless, you seem to have a hard time coming up with any individual’s’ name?…
Not at all. For years, others acknowledge me as such.
You appear jilted on account of your not coming close to matching such, while failing to substantively refute my fact based analysis.
I’m starting to not believe you, Mickey. Just name one person (besides yourself) who is responsible for giving you the title of an ‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst‘? Why not just admit the obvious, that you were the author of this descriptor, and not others?
You can believe (distort) all you want. Some years ago, there was a prominent “open letter” that chose to identify me as such. Thereafter, someone used that identifier when running my commentary at the venue which he edited. The rest is history – something you haven’t come close to matching.
So who was the author of this ‘prominent open letter’ where you were first identified as an ‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst’? Seems to me that you should be quite proud to have received such a letter and should be able to reproduce it quite easily?
As per your request, I linked it further up this thread. You really aren’t too swift. Umland props me again:
http://www.academia.edu/Documents/in/Annexation_of_Crimea
Likewise with Richard Sakwa in his book on Ukraine. Meantime, stupid you haven’t been able to substantively refute my fact based analysis.
No, actually it’s you who’s not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree Mickey. The issue isn’t whether or not you are very consistent, or whether you’ve lost touch with reality in your analysis regarding the Crimea (it’s obvious that you have), but who first dubbed you an ‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst’?
This is what we’ve been trying to determine over the last 30 comments or so, but you seem to not be able to provide the name of such an individual, so all that’s left is to ascribe the authorship of this meaningless title to no one other than to your own megalomaniacal self.
I already answered that matter which you repeatedly bring up like a fool – repeating the same mantra while ducking the substantive follow-up.
Meantime, you have yet to substantively refute any of the points brought up in this commentary:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/07092018-consistency-and-reality-lacking-on-crimea-analysis/
There’s a difference between an anonymous crank like yourself stating false innuendo and someone who makes fact based observations in high profile to relatively high profile situations.
Just how are your views on Crimea more accurate than mine? Nothing especially megalomaniacal about me. The same can’t be said about (as an example) Filaret among some others.
Regarding Filaret:
https://russian-faith.com/news/st-george-slays-double-headed-eagle-sacrilegious-new-icon-ukraine-n1797
No, you have not! You have not named any individual that originally dubbed you with the sobriquet:
‘Independent Foreign Policy Analyst’
Either provide somebody’s name and quit trying to sidestep the question, or quit lying!
You lie again, while continuously ducking the actual intended subjects for discussion. Quite pathetic on your part. To be expected from a trolling anonymous coward.
Where exactly am I lying? You’re the one lying by stating:
and not being able to substantiate this lie with even one single individual’s name. Who exactly are the others that you’re referencing? Do they have any names or are they nameless?
You’re way too disingenuously slimy. I’ve provided considerably more than what you selectively cut and paste.
Meantime, you don’t offer your actual name, as you negatively and inaccurately attempt to besmirch my input, which you haven’t substantively refuted. One of several examples being your BS statement that I’m out of touch with the Crimean situation. In turn, I called you out by asking for you to specifically refute any of my points on the subject.
To be expected of a svido troll, not liking the commentary and being unable to successfully refute it. Instead, choosing to rehash red herrings that have been already addressed.
You’ve provided nothing at all regarding the issue at hand: the name of the individual(s) that first dubbed you the independent foreign policy analyst ? Where are the goods Mickey?
He lies again in his now patented empty calories, dull manner, while ducking substantive input to the intended subjects of discussion. Vintage trolling.
I’m not lying, and there’s nothing at all empty about my pointing out that you’re unable to substantiate your statement that somebody other than yourself had named you the Independent Foreign Policy Analyst.
He lies yet again , to go along without any substantive input to the actual intended topics of discussion. Vintage trolling from a svido, who doesn’t like fact based views which don’t conform with his twisted notions.
I’m not lying, and there’s nothing at all empty about my pointing out that you’re unable to substantiate your statement that somebody other than yourself had named you the Independent Foreign Policy Analyst.