This week’s Open Thread.
Some interesting posts of note:
- Glenn Greenwald – Journalists Start Demanding Substack Censor its Writers: to Bar Critiques of Journalists
- Patrick Armstrong – Lab Rats to the Front. Written at about the same time as my own Woke Mil, so I’m not the only one noticing this phenomenon.
- [twitter] @TheDailyMao – Chinese Invasion of Taiwan Scenario
- Paul Robinson – Rule of Law in Russia
- Insomniac Resurrected – Facebook Blocked A Russian News Story About Arrested Ukrainian Nazi Partisans
This is the current Open Thread, where anything goes – within reason.
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I just want to continue my popular comment (here) about why there would never be a civil war in the U.S and rebut to the very valid comment (here )
Tomo’s observations are precisely the reason why there won’t be a civil war.
In Peter Turchin’s work he mentions Ibn Khaldun’s idea of Asabiyyah(group cohesion). Which is essentially group fighting ability. My main thesis is that the U.S has a huge Asabiyyah deficiency, take note that the world in general has a huge Asabiyyah deficiency but it is most acute in the U.S.A.
Yugoslavia, had strong social ties and community and brotherhood. Ironically it is these things that are needed to initiate a civil war and much more necessary to win one. These things are lacking in the U.S there is precisely zero chance of sufficient numbers of Americans organizing into an army and much less an effective army. This is true for all sides of the political spectrum. American culture and social conditions are not conducive to Asabiyyah and therefore not conducive to populism, collective action and the most difficult of collective actions which is war.
The British Empire would reduce the Asabiyyah of soon-to-be-subjects by divide and conquer. Realize that the levels of division of Americans are so high that the majority have become atomized individuals, making it easy for an alien(or domestic) elite to rule over the atomized masses.
Therefore there will never be a civil war and my original prediction stands.
Bil Gates-NYT Covid-19 Advocacy;
https://fair.org/home/has-nyt-heard-of-chinas-or-russias-covid-vaccines/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
Pope Gregory XVI opposed the railroad in the Papal States, though his successor did not.
The great thing about rail is that it helps prevent famine. But on the bad side, it was a pretty important step on the road to creating woke capital. Rail created a lot these big consumer brands, as well as a lot of this rootlessness.
It’s interesting to read old letters from upper class people – I mean, like 150+ years old, not famous people. Makes one wonder at the profound impact that dysgenics may have already had, and shudder at the future trends.
https://www.rt.com/business/517514-china-iran-crude-shipments-sanctions/
What statistics can’t teach you…
Russia stands no chance against the glorious and invincible Ukrainian Air Force!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39747/drunken-ukrainian-air-force-officer-smashed-his-volkswagen-into-a-mig-29-fighter
If we beiee Russian nationalists, Ukraine and Russia are one people with one culture.
Regarding why no US civil war is possible, I agree with your lack-of-cohesion explanation. I would add to this a “too much to lose” factor: an array of government and pension benefits, and civil forfeiture of assets. The benefits part was formidable even before the Fed printing press was turned on, and now it is even more formidable.
I believe that fighting would actually be unnecessary, because a strike by the productive half of the country would be sufficiently powerful as a weapon. But the cohesiveness is absent to organize such a strike. And, even if it were organized, the voiding of a striker’s benefits, plus instituting civil forfeiture of his assets, would bring him back to his farm tractor or airline cockpit in a hurry.
Israel must pull off a spectacular saturation loitering munition/drone attack against Iranian nuclear infastructure one day. Much like the Iranian attack on Saudi oil refineries in 2019 but much larger in scale. From launchers that have been standing by for years in multiple countries (unbeknownst to their hosts). Activated via satellite. Rt had a post on Israelis caught on film training some bumfuck shithole asian army in using loiter munitions… Who knows how competent these central asian national intelligence agencies are on keeping an eye on their guest advisors.
Not to mention whatever unmanned underwater vehicles Israel has develop with this particular purpose in mind.
Israel will of course neither deny or confirm it was the attacker. Internationally for Western media thats good enough as innocence. Especially if the drones are made to look like something built by someone else. If Iran attacks it will be seen as an aggressor and thus US will come in. Suspicion is one thing but with no real evidence….. Everyone in the West can pretend they aren’t evil incarnate and bomb Iran willy nilly.
And if Iran doesn’t retaliate…. Well…. that would be boring.
Regarding a drone attack, here’s an engaging video example of how a drone can meander its way around inside a building. I had no idea. The US (and therefore Israel) is sure good at drones. Different countries are good at different things.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VgS54fqKxf0&list=TLPQMTIwMzIwMjENJyF6csLuvw&index=2
I was offering British designs like that to Russia nearly 10 years ago. They are rather old hat. The newer ones are so small that they are barely visible. They can fly in above the head of someone with a security pass without EMR and sit somewhere for weeks. All British infantry patrols have a lot of them.
Others deliver enogh payload to kill a tank. UK no longer has many tanks.
That’s probably a Chinese drone. Almost all drones like that are from China.
In the immediate postwar years, there were a lot of Hollywood movies with minor mention of people not having papers. I think it was intentional ideological subversion. Probably the earliest mainstream globalist subversion.
Non-retractable refueling probes should be illegal.
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In Saratov in 2014, 2/3rds of Ukrainian refugees were young men fleeing from the draft from either side (provinical government figures) but expecially from the Donbass cities. You are right. These are not two unified ethnic groups fighting it out for solid tribal reasons. The picture is complicated.
Well the “nationalist” is used with typical disingenous anglo-saxon cretinism by yourself, Phillip.
Russians believe Ukraine and Russia are one people with one culture……as do all westerners, as when not under police-state conditions do most Ukrainians….as do all sane people. So any russian ethnonationalist ( which you are too lazy to specify in your description), any Russian-world patriot, any objective westerner and almost certainly when privately asked- all Ukrainians think the same thing.
Western apparatus 0bjective is openly to derussify “Ukrainians”, i.e to artificially create something that never existed, as part of some sick experiment.
All western interaction over history with these “Ukrainians” has occurred by them viewing these people as what they are ( Russians) as is the case of when the British/Irish were paid by Nicholas I to build the first bridge over the Dnieper in Kiev
Going back to the original issue – russians and ukrainians are the same people, and with that comes the same extreme, bizarre, eccentric actions that we sometimes do (e.g the inexplicable death on runway at Vnukovo of de Margerie – CEO of Total Oil company, and one of the most important men in the world caused by some drunk cretin working at the airport driving his snowplough into the plane) …….. but the difference is that in Russia this stupidity is not derivative or even inspired and incited by State ideology, state policies and directives like it is in Ukraine (drunk Kiev cops playing some pranks on each other in the street – inadvertently killing a 5 year old boy by shooting him dead , saying he died from falling on the pavement……and then the whole department covering for them!)
That’s a funny “worst president ever” concept, thanks. But I would consider awarding the trophy to Lincoln. He harvested 750,000 (the new estimate) lives, over a problem that existed in 7% of US households, and had maybe two decades left before it was totally gone in the Western world. And resentments lingered, and in fact still linger.
Something weird is going on with commercial space travel to ISS.
https://spacenews.com/op-ed-do-not-cancel-space-stations-new-culture-of-commercial-cooperation/
NASA for some reason halted subsidies to non-educational/research trips to the International Space Station. Which means space tourists or their launch providers must now pay full fare. Since US only has one contractor like that, in practice this means SpaceX must eat the cost?
Frankly I don’t understand why NASA decided to be mean like that because affordable space tourism was one of the SpaceX stated goals, and without those subsidies SpaceX will have difficult time competing with the Russians.
And speaking of the devils, Russians are getting another American astronaut on Soyuz MS-18 and two international tourists on MS-20. So Soyuz is going strong (even if ISS is cracking up).
Excellent Tucker Carlson Segment
Re: Below Video with Aaron Mate and Tulsi Gabbard
At the 18:10 mark of his 3/12 hosted show, Carlson shows why he’s a positive improvement over Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham – never mind the hacks at CNN and MSNBC. Carlson has segments that challenge obvious flaws in some US foreign policy actions, which his mass media peers don’t cover – instead often going along with the dubious narrative.
Although not specifically mentioned in this segment (unlike the second US war on Iraq), beware of US government and mass media spin in the event of a significantly heightened escalation between Kiev regime and Donbass rebel forces, which might also involve Russia.
Nobody is going to deny the fact that there are many different strange sub-stories subsumed within the background of the war in Donbas. That a lot of Russian nationalists are fighting on the Kyivan side of the war is hard to accept, based on one or two video clips. It would make a lot more sense that a few Russian nationalists have penetrated to the other side and are working as spy’s for the rebel militias, and vice versa, I would think.
What about Russia throttling Twitter?
Atlas Cringed, if you will. But in that scenario, it’s not a matter of obedience but merely time before your benefits get cut, your assets seized and you yourself shipped off to Happy Farms (once productivity flags).
Well, modern global vision starts with Count Kalergi and Otto von Habsburg, both of Austro-Hungarian Empire. They created pan European confederation, and created EU flag and anthem. They even proposed to cross breed Europeans with Africans to better fight Russia or something. We live in their vision today.
Hollywood did make a movie about Kalergi adventures (Hitler didn’t like pan-Europeans much and wanted them dead) – it was called Casablanca, a war time cult classic. It helped popularize modern mindset (“The Resistance” of rich nobility meeting in a posh nightclub, and a ticket to America as a get out of jail card) which is basically your garden variety neoliberalism.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/from-utopian-dream-to-political-reality-1.758464?mode=amp
The weirdest thing about it is its not over. They keep popping up again and again.
Like it was Habsburg who led the first humanitarian convoy into Lithuania in 1991 signifying European backing of anti-Communist protests there and contributing to USSR collapse.
Remember Navalny story about him calling FSB officer regarding his own poisoning? The guy Navalny was with is Christo Grosev. Grosev was an executive director for a Dutch radio station that Habsburg owns. And Grosev is a Bulgarian who got his start in Metromedia Russia. Metromedia was giant American conglomerate that created Fox News network among others. Person who created Metromedia was a German named John Kluge and he served in US Army intelligence during WW2.
Remember Derkach? Ukrainian politician famous for leaking Poroshenko Biden tapes? Well, Habsburgs also own Ukrainian radio station (they run a media empire, that how you control the narrative). Under Yanukovich, Derkach had his own radio station and his orders were to outbid Habsburg owned station at the broadcast license auctions. Habsburg owned station got nothing and there was a lot of complaining. Obviously, under Poroshenko that changed and Habsburgs got broadcasting rights, including to Donbas, but they soured on the project by then.
It’s like World War 1 never ended.
There was less Asabiyyah in Ukraine than in the US.
Yes, imagine this level of cucked.
Happily they only constitute about 10% of Russian nationalists. They were also predominantly Neo-Nazi and/or liberal types, so marginalizing them has had salutary effects on the movement as a whole.
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Almost 600% price increase. Interesting. But who was paying according to these prices and what were they sending up?
Therefore it was needed to send in foreign inteligence armed batallions of diversants (Girkin, Bezler etc) in order to incite and sustain “civil war” even in most pro-RF Ukraine territories as without them there would have been some short term civil riots happening at most.
It needs to be said that the US legal system — and the civil justice system in particular — is every bit as disgusting as the US educational apparatus, the US media, etc. It seems engineered to produce unjust outcomes, feed the malignant growth of the federal bureaucracy, and sabotage the productive capacity of US citizens.
Viktor Bout before Thai looksmaxxing protocol:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2008/03/07/world/07dealer-span-600.jpg
After:
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https://static01.nyt.com/images/2011/10/26/nyregion/BOUT/BOUT-jumbo.jpg
I’m sure a hypothetical American Civil War II will see plenty of foreign adventurers too. Probably the largest such contingent in world history.
I think anyone believing that Hitler loved Russians or didn’t kill Jews should be disqualified from being called a Neo-Nazi and be called a fake Nazi instead. Real Nazis didn’t like Russians and they also didn’t deny the Holocaust, rather they committed it.
Atlas will indeed cringe. Atlas is being replaced by technology. Productive and essential people make a decent living in the U.S and they will be kept satisfied.
That is not to say those who were once productive and essential, and have now become excess workers due to technology will face lay offs and marginalization and basically be thrusted by society into a pre-suicidal stage of their life.
The human component of Atlas will shrink and the capital(machines, patents, algorithms, property) will expand while being belonging to fewer and fewer people. Atlas can’t shrug because the unsatisfied elements are getting kicked out and atlas is becoming more of an object than a being. If one is seriously considering shrugging, one probably isn’t a component of the economic Atlas.
Stop projecting the Lithuanian scenario you dummy. 40 years of total love and zero resistance to Soviet rule and 200 years of Russian “occupation” would be something to say required foreign help to overcome.
Tsar was building many hospitals for Lithuania, I don’t see you fools in a rush to replace russian rail gauge. We all know the peace, prosperity and happiness Soviet times gave you idiots. If answered honestly , far more Lithuanians were in favour of keeping Ignalina operating than were in going away from USSR….but we all know what prostituting statehood has resulted for in Lithuania ( though of course non-comparably better to Ukropia). You were an authoritarian dictatorship, where the dictator ELIMINATED parliament for 14 years – because of this after the coward ran away – Soviets were begged to incorporate them into USSR.
As for Banderastan – what happened once again you cretin was another failure by the country to run itself, resulting in another farce and another power vaccum that brought evil Nazi scum into the state apparatus with western backing .This was a failed state taken over by Nazi’s . Get that into your thick head. To go with this serious farce – arrests, laws and violence perfectly show Russian views were completely accurate.
You fools are run by Americans , so think of Americana films as Shane and Magnificent Seven, that perfectly describes similar scenario of these people who entered Lugansk and Donetsk to defend people of Donbass.
It’s amazing – a scumbag state ordered by US and demands for IMF loan, initiates war against civilians trying to resist this farce or at least be negotiated with…but you blame the innocent side?!
There are more hard-core Russian National Socialists and White Nationalists fighting on the Ukrainian side than on the Donbass and Lugansk side. Probably around a third of Azov Battalion is ethnic Russian.
On the other side of the conflict, in the early stages there was the Mil’chakov units (БТРГ Русич and Варяг) fighting for pro-Russian rebels. They were affiliated with a field commander who accepted ultra-nationalists (Бэтмэн), then this field-commander got executed by the Russian side and the Rusich/Varyag guys moved out of Donbass. They are now fighting as mercenaries in the Middle East, Lybia, even Africa perhaps.
The reason for that is the complete and utter illegality of any form of Russian ultra-nationalism and the fringe status of the more “intellectual ” Russian nationalist narrative in RusFed. In his last public address, Putin has again stressed that the slogan “Russia for Russians ” is a bad one and should not be tolerated. It is paradoxically easier to be a Russian National Socialist or White Nationalist in Ukraine, than in Russia itself.
In Russia you can literally end up in prison if you are too outspoken as a nationalist and if you engage in public debate and/or politics. Scores of Russian nationalists ended-up jailed, often on made-up accusations. Recently Tesak got murdered in prison and the government has proceeded with a cover up of his murder. The only type of “pseudo-nationalists ” being tolerated are the “professional patriots” that are actually funded in one way or another by the RusFed authorities.
With the exception of Jihadists, no other political group is more feared and repressed in RusFed than Russian National Socialists and White Nationalists. Anyone who talks about Putin being a nationalist or RusFed being the nationalist Russian state doesn’t know what he is talking about.
What makes you say that? I have to ask because in my view the U.S has one of the lowest levels of asabiyyah in the world, for Ukraine to have less asabiyyah than the U.S would be shocking to me and would also BTFO my hypothesis.
No doubt, but supply lines and help for those foreign operatives would be quite harder to organize in US than those in Ukraine as even with uninterrupted supplies over the border RF operated “mercenaries” were unable to withstand the Ukrainian pressure and covert army invasion, albeit if limited in scope and duration, was needed for the “civil war” not to end quickly.
The Holocaust didn’t happen, it’s a simple fact. If you researched it, you would find this out.
They’re not cucked, they are basically members of the White National Socialist International. You are probably aware of that, but you cannot write about that because you have become too close to some really deeply cucked people such as Kholmogorov.
Why don’t you write something about the way Russian National Socialists and ultra-nationalists are treated in the RusFed?
The swastika and the kolovrat, Indo-European symbols from times immemorial have been outlawed as “Nazi symbols “. You can end up in prison if you organize a National Socialist, a White Nationalist or even just a Russian ultra-nationalist group or association. “Russia for Russians ” is a bad slogan according to Putin himself. I wonder what he would think about “Russia for Rothenbergs” or “Chechnya for Vaynakhs” slogans, he would probably find them both quite appropriate.
If you actually believe that the holocaust happened go to Stormfront.org>History and Revision>Top 10 reasons why the holocaust didn’t happen for the most consice and common sense proof that the holocaust story is a bunch of baloney.
Shit, they are going to cancel Substack right after I got a Gray Mirror subscription! And I bet that if they only censor a few people, then along with Greenwald, for sure Gray Mirror is going to go. What a loss of money! Not in the practical sense, but in an ironic timing sense. And all I got out of it was a few days of premium insider content such as:
–Why prohibit newspeak? It’s simple: newspeak is a weapon. Its only purpose is to bully. Keeping newspeak out of your conversation is like keeping pistols out of your saloon.
If newspeak is not being used in earnest, of course, it is okay. This isn’t the New York Times! Any word can be used ironically or described critically. Use “scare quotes.”
But when that jargon of power, the langue du bois, the LTI, is heard in an urbane space—it is exactly like hearing the Black Speech of Mordor at some gay elf hot-tub party in Rivendell—
Everyone stops. Everyone loses their hardon. What the fuck! Sorry. No. This is a safe space. Roleplay is one thing—dude—we don’t do that. We don’t use the tongue of Mordor. Or did you think it was funny? Look, man—there’s elves here who—”–
I think the author would be okay for me cutting out a small paragraph out of his many thousand worded essay. Probably counts as advertisement. It’s the gay elves and similar outtakes that make the content powerful.
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/d8bbtV9NkWMd/
Ethnic Ukraine has a decent level of what you call “asabiyyah” but the country as a whole did not.
Usually it’s students and school research projects (as shown in this footage from 1994).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=amWu-idEw-w
Also people studying space manufacturing.
Those price hikes affect commercial projects only. They mentioned Tom Cruise thinking about filming a movie there and a cosmetics company making a commercial.
Wow. Did he get the Novichok treatment?
It’s interesting to note that over time I seem to get more submerged information out of comments like yours than I do from Karlin. No offense Anatoly, but it seems that a lot of your posts are starting to all merge around the predictable and milk toast variety of postings. Bashibuzuk’s criticism has some validity, you need to find your Blackshirted gear and put it on and get out of the house and write something more exotic or at least more “reality” based. Please don’t take this criticism too personally, for I still find your blog to be quite interesting, it’s just that you need to jazz it up a bit with some more original material. Rehashing already published statistics gets a bit ho-hum, don’t you think?
Like the good Russian people of Harbin back in the 1930ies.
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(I could literally be brought to justice in the RusFed for posting this.)
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I wonder what would the RusFed intellectual elites think of these people. Would Margarita Simonian approve of them?
Definitely, a lot of war-themed subversion. Sherlock Holmes used to be one of my favorite fictional characters, until I saw some of the awful propaganda movies they made with him – and then I started to think, well, Doyle actually did have a Holmes story something like this, and it even touts an American brand.
And Casablanca definitely hits the mark about borders and even race – I had forgotten about that dimension of it.
In an American context, on the level of globalism, it is hard to appreciate how subversive radio is, as all the foreign stuff is lower status, but once you go abroad, you start to wonder, why are they playing all this American music in a non-English speaking country? Why are they reporting on race stories from America? Or, why are they teaching Africans English and French? If anything, they should be trying to shift their tongues to even more alien modes, with more clicks and no shared words.
Though I was referring to WW2 originally, I think a lot of the big border changes after WWI oddly helped to foment globalism, as they affected a certain ethnic group who felt that their ability to move had become more circumscribed. I think a lot of Hollywood writers were born in some of these territories that changed hands.
Hollywood was (((Cosmopolitan))) from its very inception. There is absolutely nothing truly American about Hollywood.
https://variety.com/1998/film/reviews/hollywoodism-jews-movies-and-the-american-dream-1200453087/
And yes a lot of early Hollywood moguls went directly from “Poland to playing polo” in a single generation. They were talented people, no doubt about it…
You are absolutely correct. I have commented about it previously a couple of times on the Navslny threads. And I have also written a couple of times about young Klaus Shwab being a kissing buddy with Otto Von Habsburg.
https://www.facebook.com/worldeconomicforum/photos/klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-1971-european-management-sympos/10150229212286479/
And Otto Von Habsburg ‘s wife lived in Québec during WW2 where she met the family of Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau (I like to copy paste his name in full).
https://www.dw.com/en/the-future-as-seen-by-documentary-filmmakers/a-51374361
Perhaps it is the Habsburg against the Windsor all over again?
(Just kidding, in fact it is the Anunaki against the Nordic Pleiadians).
Indeed. Our rulers have mastered game theory and praxis. I know people don’t like to read pessimistic comments, but I see no plausible future where the “99%” succeeds in seizing the assets of the elites and [redacted] the elites. And in the 0.00000000000001% chance that this occurs, then the fight over the spoils will break down in the exact same way it does now. The mulignan ain’t ever gonna stop blaming whitey.
IMO, one of the major subversions of Western society was that Europeans were tricked into thinking that Hollywood was their cultural center.
Even today, you can find a lot of WASP or gentile talent there, but they would not really be allowed to segregate together and say, “We want to make cultural films for Europeans.” The necessary freedom of association does not really exist to create a brand like that.
I wish that some of the foreign markets that allow the entrance of Hollywood films were more protected and at least set some sort of preference for national-cultural productions in their foreign slots, instead of this globohomo stuff.
Speaking of Thais, I get the feeling that Chinese like to make fun of SE Asians in their movies – hint that they are clownish and half-black. Like I watched one set in Thailand a while back, and they had this thug they called “Vietnam”, and he had an afro, which I thought was really funny.
Your comment implies that most of the resentment is from aggrieved southerners. I would strongly disagree with that.
An extremely large portion of the resentment comes from “people” who weren’t even in the US in the 1860s.
There was one story which I remember being pro-race-mixing.
War is serious bussines enterprise and proper funding is esential. In case of Yugoslavia West heavily invested in local fringe groups, the same scenario is applied for Ukraine. Maybee chinese are hoarding all those USD reserves for similar purpose in their little Cold War 2.0 with US and turn it in Civil War 2.0.
Two years in prison in Thailand (before being extradited to United States).
Hollywood was (((Cosmopolitan))) from its very inception.
In one of the newer films with Robert Downey Jr., there is a scene where he appears in drag – disturbing in a modern context. And then I thought, “But Doyle did have a scene like this – he gave them an excuse to put it in there.”
On a tangent, I found a scene in a Chinese movie Detective Dee quite disturbing and was surprised the censors let it in there:
In one scene, a topless girl lay on top of the title character, with heavy sexual undertones. In another scene, she has the appearance of an old man with stubble (a different actor, who CGI morphs into her, once her secret identity is guessed), and we learn that she can radically shift her appearance. Though, it turns out, she really is a female. Obviously, there are subversive undertones here.
As you most certainly would know, they represented but one faction within the community, one that I’m proud to acknowledge my ancestors did not support. Despite been fervent Anti Bolsheviks several of my family members volunteered to fight for The Red Army during World War II . This might confuse some, but I’m certain you’d understand their reasoning.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/RFP_Manchouli_Swastica.jpg
Manzhouli China 1930s
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Zaveshanie.jpg
Have you read it Bashibuzuk?
I haven’t read any of those books, but I know the author’s day job was as an expert in Tang pornography, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he was also some sort of pervert.
It interests me that they have been made into Chinese films.
Of course.
Unfortunately didn’t have a chance. I did not know it was published in Moscow (probably would be impossible today). All I have read were bits of information found around the internet. I remember my surprise some 20 years ago when I first read about the Russian Fascist organization. Harbin has probably been a fascinating place back then.
11 октября 2010 г. решением Центрального районного суда г. Красноярска книга была признана в РФ экстремистским материалом[7][8][9], и книга была внесена в Федеральный список экстремистских материалов (№ 861).
QED
Haven’t read any of the books myself.
I wonder how much Robert van Gulik was responsible for popularizing the character within China, especially if you consider the communist takeover. Translated from English first into Japanese and then Chinese! I hadn’t realized that his work had been translated into Chinese – I thought all of it had come from translations of Chinese stories about Dee and that he hadn’t written anything original.
They were also quite adept at creating the classical American myth including American folklore, music, art and political orientation. Many of these Jewish Hollywood moguls had become so “American” so quickly that they only very slowly started to produce anti-Nazi propaganda films, not wanting to advertise their European Jewish roots and draw attention to themselves. Indeed, American culture would certainly be much poorer if you were to subtract the enormous output of such talented composers as Irving Berlin, Aaron Copeland, George Gershwin, Arnold Schoenberg, Stephen Sondheim and many more. Oscar Hammerstein II was undoubtedly the big heavy when it came to producing musical scores for some of the most memorable American film musicals of the 1950’s – 1960’s. Yeah, they were indeed a “very talented people, no doubt about it.”
Help! I can’t read the cover of this forbidden book. Tell us more. Thanks!
I read recently that the possibility of Iran becoming a member of EAEU is seriously discussed. If it happens, it would be a boon for Russian companies, but…would the Iranians, then, have the right to live and work in Russia? Could Iran become a member, but with exceptions, without Russia having to receive a few million extra migrants? If not, then Iran becoming a member would, ironically, lead to the same outcome that exists now in the West, this time brought forth by a conservative, not liberal, ideology.
I have to admit that I sometimes find it hard to understand your “Russian nationalist” sympathies? You make it somewhat clear here that you sympathize with some of the most right wing nationalist parties and their ideologies, and yet within some of your most recent comments at other threads you’ve also remarked how you sympathize with the various ethnic minorities within Russia and their language and cultural rights too. How do you manage to make it all hang together?
Debating the Holocaust by Thomas Dalton is also a very good introduction. The publisher is actually based in Britain, which surprised me.
It is sad how people like AK can cling so stubbornly to the obviously false Holocaust narrative. My only conclusions are that he has deliberately avoided the topic, is much more stupid than I thought or is engaging in Taqiyya because it is illegal in Russia.
Of all docs who mustn’t turn grouchy
The worst one would be be Tony Fauci
He’s started to whine
It’s time to resign
Or at least hit the shrink’s office couchy.
I wasn’t aware that we could do more than one of these, is there a bug?
Russia launches one of the worlds largest neutrino detecting telescopes underneath lake Baikal.
https://phys.org/news/2021-03-russia-deploys-giant-space-telescope.html
Good to see Russia making scientific progress. Also pleasantly surprised to see Polish scientists’ participation.
Schoenberg shouldn’t be counted as an American composer. Most of his compositions were made in Europe.
Personally I wish Berlin, Copeland, Gershwin, and Sondheim’s dreck had never been created. Some of the film scores by the likes of Korngold, Waxman, and others was ok.
I’m not exactly close to Kholmogorov, I’m not even on the same page as him on many issues (too much obscurantism and American rightoidism for me – he really went hard on the MAGA cope), but given the choice, yes, I would much rather be “close” to the inventor of the “Russian Spring” than an emigre whose key positions on Russia de facto align with those of the State Department and whose main distinction from them is a greater appreciation for swastikas, kolovrats, and related pagan larp. (BTW, kolovrats being banned is another one of your weird claims that don’t align with Russian reality, kolovrat themed jewelry can be bought online or at the touristy part of any historical Russian town).
As a matter of fact, I did write about the persecution of Russian nationalists several years ago (even triggering some sovoks into leaving my blog – though, no big loss). E.g., https://www.unz.com/akarlin/country-282/ It’s also the case that Article 282 was decriminalized in December 2019, fulfilling a long-standing Russian nationalist demand (something else that seems to have passed you by in your emigre bubble). It is now very hard to fall afoul of Russian hate speech laws short of parading around in swastikas and shouting “Glory to Ukraine.” My commiserations, since that seems to be your preferred flavor of “Russian nationalism”, but I can’t say I care very much. They are just a more racist version of Antifa, just as much useful idiots of the West and considerably more stupid .
On a more general note, it always amuses me when I hear that I do write or don’t write something for monetary or political reasons. If that were the case, I would be 10x richer, have 10x+ as many Twitter followers, and would still be in the US.
Rodzaevsky’s Last Testament of a Russian Fascist can be easily found in electronic format on the Internet and even from individual vendors online.
Out of interest, I got a copy (electronic – no wish to splash out 6,000 rubles on a physical one, whose main value would be the shock one of having a “forbidden book” on my bookshelf) and was greatly disappointed. Just pages upon pages of ranting and venting about Jews and nothing else – I suppose there might be valuable insights, but given the obsession, I doubt it.
If it was legal to sell it, I doubt any more people would read it. Perhaps fewer.
The Imperial powers, shorn of their empires, simply turned divide and rule inwards. They recreated their colonies at home so their vanity and institutions could continue.
Where did I write that you did it for money? Interesting that you have interpreted my comment in that vein. I think that your opinions (like everyone else’s) are influenced by your environment and the people you communicate with. As the Russian saying goes: ” С кем поведешься от того и наберёшься”.
Regarding Russian Spring, it has rather rapidly turned into Sovok 2.0 Autumn. RusFed today is way closer to Brezhnev’s era than to Alexander the IIIrd’s . RusFed is evolving towards a Sovok system, except for a clearly delineated oligarchic class, a terrible wealth inequality and a lot less social guarantees.
About the Kolovrat, I am pretty sure that if anyone is stupid enough to go on a parade with a Kolovrat flag in any “historical Russian town”, he will end up having an interesting conversation with the local police. BTW, what about the Swastika (of which the Kolovrat is a variation anyway) ? Can you publicly display this typical Northern Russian embroidery in today’s RusFes?
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/matveychev_oleg/27303223/7270203/7270203_900.jpg
What about the typical Baltic Thunder Cross?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/c3/2a/1cc32a46c26add1d6a26782bdc85ad77.jpg
You dodged the topic…
Regarding the 282 article, you know pretty well that anyone, whom the RusFed government would decide to put in jail for political reasons, would indeed end up in jail. With or without the 282 article. And if need be, this person would die in prison, no further questions asked, as Tesak’s untimely death has demonstrated. That is one of the valid reasons to watch what you say or write in today’s RusFed, and I can’t blame you for being smart enough to avoid certain topics.
Now, you will need to make your mind about me: am I a US State Department parrot with pro-Ukranian neonazi inclinations, or a typical Russian emigré with a Soviet mentality, as you have written about me the last time?
You understand that your opinions seem kind of contradictory here…
Finally, I will not be insulted by the “Paganism LARPing” accusations. Some like to believe that transhumanism has some value, some believe that human spiritual traditions are more interesting than some mechanicist новодел. You prefer evolving by becoming a machine, I prefer evolving as a spiritual being. As a famous young Rabbi from Nazareth purportedly said ; “По вере вашей воздастся вам”.
Jedem das seine.
How ironic that we school age lads of olden times were instructed to be aware of BALKANIZATION. Bad, very, bad; unification was the ticket. Now we see that as distinct peoples are not forced together they are improved in every case. But yes, we are no longer distict enough to overcome the room our betters keep in our minds rent free.
Many of the types who insist that Russians and Ukrainians are the same people would happily claim that the English and Scots are completely different people and polar opposites, and cynically support Scottish independence.
Their idea of what constitutes the same people is very politicised and disingenuous.
I suspect a lot of it is the official WW2 narrative is absolutely sacred in Russia and a part of their culture almost, and I believe much of what has become official WW2 history is the work of Russian historians.
My impression is that to question WW2 history in a way that would make the Germans appear better than the official narrative portrays them is almost taboo in Russia and frankly a treacherous act.
Whereas in the UK people don’t care about WW2 so much, contrary to popular belief. One wouldn’t be considered a traitor in Britain for questioning the Holocaust, an anti-Semite yes but that’s another matter.
Heh, my Russophile cousin in Ukraine (her branch of the family left Galicia for the Russian Empire during World War I, before they could become nationalists) wears a necklace with a Kolovrat motif, now I know what this actually was. She’s a devout Russian Orthodox Christian though, not pagan at all.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/ba/05/47ba057ba15a24519c78c785c4a9f773.jpg
Each colored region deserves to be its own country that is free, independent and democratic. Except Northern Ireland, that goes to Ireland.
Since we have had Viktor Bout, someone should at least post pictures of women on this open threat. Here are Ukrainian army girls:
https://img.112.international/original/2018/03/07/271522.jpg
https://storage1b.censor.net/images/9/b/1/a/9b1a01ad5d858483721365a87128270e/original.jpg
Bashibuzuk has a very strange idea that police are going to be knocking down your doors for selling or parading in kolovrat-themed jewelry/traditional garments.
Well, at least Oscar Hammerstein II made it through your critical assessment…
And what could you possibly have against George Gershwin? He’ll always fill a special place in my heart, as my piano teacher*, when I was a child, got a hold of some of his easier pieces sheet music for me and got me started with my life long infatuation with jazz music. Dave Brubeck’s (another Jew BTW) sheet music came up next. 🙂
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91iFwFm-9qL._SL1500_.jpg
*My piano teacher was of Slovak ancestry.
Huh? One Serbing wasn’t enough for these fuckers huh?
Now there’s thousands in on the scheme, it would unironically have to be a small genocide to get rid of ’em.
I remember reading a few years back that there was a prominent swastika depicted within a very old fresco within the St. Sophia Cathedral in Kyiv. I believe that it had been mysteriously removed by somebody? You can read about it in certain places through the internet, but I couldn’t actually find any photos of it. I guess that we can thank the Ukrainian deep state for this masterful job of intellectual censorship?…..
Correct, I try to associate with non-cringe people who work to achieve concrete political goals, many of which have indeed been implemented since 2019, such as:
Removing hate speech laws. 80% done. (Article 282 decriminalized. Russia far freer in this respect than most of Europe).
Russia as a Russian national-state. 100% done. Defined as the state-forming people in the revised Russian Constitution.
This is why I am much more of a Putinist in 2021 than I was c.2018.
Meanwhile, less serious Russian nationalists – or those with no skin in the game, at any rate – have the luxury of larping over things such as the legal status of some book from the 1930s or literal kosovorotkas, LOL. Because nothing depends on them.
Given the above, it is reasonable to reward the regime with some degree of loyalty, given its improving behavior
I suppose it’s sad that Neo-Nazi/WN pro-svidomy (along with Navalnyites and Antifa) get the book thrown at them. But these people owe their loyalty to the White International, Washington D.C., GloboHomo, and various permutations thereof – not to Russians. I don’t see what I, who identifies as a Russian nationalist, not a WN, owe any of them.
Because they’re morons?
Out of curiosity, I just Ctrl-F’ed “Latvians” (латыш-) on the entire book. Five hits. Mostly in the context of Jews oppressing poor Latvians (who had absolutely nothing to do with the Red Latvian Riflemen) by snapping up 70% of the housing in Riga.
Rodzaevsky made the choice to be a useful idiot of Nazi Germany and did so through to early 1945.
Then believed Stalin’s promise of a reprieve and accepted the offer to return to the USSR, where he was arrested and shot (makes sense that a conspiracy-monger would turn out to be a credulous idiot).
Did he ever do anything relevant?
He is featured in Hearts of Iron IV as an alternate fascist-aligned leader of the USSR if the plot against Stalin succeeds. I once conquered Europe and the US as a fascist Russian Empire under Rodzaevsky. I’d say that’s relevant. (Then again, it’s a broken game where I also conquered Nazi Germany as Belgium, so take that FWIW).
In Kiev Saint Sophia’s Cathedral:
https://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2017/1/Image%2014.jpg
In Novgorod Saint Sophia Cathedral:
https://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2017/1/Image%20362.jpg
Until the 1930ies the Swastika under different forms was omnipresent in the European Russian north, especially in the regions historically populated by the descendants of the Old Believers. After the 1930ies the NKVD started fighting this “symbol of Fascism”. People started avoiding the pattern in their embroidery or ceramics.
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/matveychev_oleg/27303223/7271872/7271872_900.jpg
In fact, the Swastika pattern was very widely used in pre-Raskol Russia. Possibly even more so than in pre-Islamic Hindustan.
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/matveychev_oleg/27303223/7266891/7266891_900.jpg
Of course this is not to everyone ‘s liking:
Hence a series of laws against “the glorification of Nazi Symbols” which have started with the regional rules in the 90ies and have now been enshrined into the federal law of the RusFed.
http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_34661/e3620d183bd6d1fe2ab8b0c912809857217325a2/
But given that I am not a RusFed citizen, I don’t give a damn about what the cultureless politically correct imbeciles there might think. I am proud of that beautiful pattern that was used by my ancestors for many thousand years.
https://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2017/1/Image%2034.jpg
OTOH, they can shove up their Red Stars up their red and sore arses…
https://www.parent4success.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/baby-girl-stands-crying-loudly-standing-near-chair-home.jpg
WAAAAA!! I want to wear clothes with swastikas on!! WAAAAAA!!!
No, because I’m not a moron. (I think). Next strawman? 🙂
I like this symbol.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/0/07/Adeptus_mecanics.jpg
It’s pretty funny reading this thread. AK is obviously uncomfortable with the anti-Semitism at display, largely accepts the conventional Holocaust narrative and calls people pre-occupied with the JQ “morons”. Many of his commenters push back.
There’s nothing wrong with AK’s positions. But it is hilarious to see a self-avowed “Russian” nationalist getting railroaded like this. Poor guy. He could have been a transhumanist liberal in a proper 1st world country and instead he’s battling the nazi dregs stuck in a stagnant shithole.
He should just move to Israel, now that they accept liberal conversions, and live in a wonderful climate where he can troll the nazis even more effectively while enjoying a truly first world society. He can still find plenty of Russians locally and meet Dmitry who will visit once in a while. Literally no downside.
Hundreds of years ago, used to be a common custom in Europe for a gentleman to make a provision in his will that some small number of gold coins be divided among his relatives and friends, to be made into rings imprinted with the skull and crossbones. It was a way of mocking death.
Of course, nowadays if you wore one you would be compared to some flamboyant pirate of questionable sexuality, or an SS officer.
Therefore, people who like Rodzaevskyi were strongly interested by the JQ are not necessarily “morons” as you have initially hastily affirmed.
Igor’ Shafarevich, who has written the “Thousand years enigma”, Solzhenitsin who authored “Two hundred years together ” or Ron Unz who wrote several essays about the JQ were writing about similar topics as Rodzaevskyi. Perhaps the style was different, less polemical, more thoughtful, but the topic itself was similar. The reason to write was also most probably similar.
Rodzaevskyi has escaped USSR in the late 1920ies. A time when “Great Russian Chauvinism ” was a crime serious enough to end up in the Solovki camp, Antisemitic propaganda was punished by death, but anyone could say whatever negative about Russian people without any notable consequences to one’s career, freedom and life. It would have been very surprising if the JQ would have “passed him by” after his young years’ experience in the Soviet Union where he was in the Komsomol.
He met Ustryalov who was to become his teacher in the University of Harbin and had a lasting impression on him. The influence of Ustryalov moved Rodzaevskyi to look into Italian Fascism, which was so fashionable at the time. Italian Fascism, Solidarism, Nationalism were then (and are to this very day) completely valid outlooks on the social organization. Ustryalov created his Nazbol doctrines on their basis, Rodzaevskyi was probably less of an academic and theoretizing type and went to actively engage into politics using Mussolini’s doctrines. He did not create something specifically novel or original, but he was no idiot either.
He paid his convictions and his political activities with his life, like Ustryalov and so many other also did. He did it because he loved his homeland even in exile and acted (perhaps imperfectly, but nevertheless earnestly) to produce changes that he considered as indispensable for his people’s future.
He was a honorable person, even though perhaps a somewhat mistaken one. I think that when writing about those who came and gone before us we should give credit where credit is due. Konstantin Rodzaevskyi was a honest and courageous man, may he rest in peace along the likes of Ustryalov, Krasnov, Shkuro, Vlasov and many others who chose an alliance with the ennemies of the Soviet regime because they saw this as the only manner to break the totalitarian state that subjugated their land and enslaved their people.
https://alchetron.com/cdn/konstantin-rodzaevsky-d02d7ae9-ccca-4470-9463-96229d7e6d2-resize-750.jpeg
Мир праху и вечная память.
I think Dmitry likes to make the point that Israel is not a first world country, but a mix of first and third world without being either one.
I am also disinclined to agree with BB. I think Israel does not vote like a first world country – which seems like a pretty big distinction. Though, supposedly, you can drink the tapwater there – which is generally my go to definition for “first world.”
WH 40K is funny but overrated in my humble opinion. When I was into Sci-fi, my personal favorite was Schizmatrix by Bruce Sterling. It was a time when I was into transhumanism and was personally engaged on professional level in some interesting scientific work that today is directly used to impact humanity’s future. That was something like 10 years ago. Today I don’t believe in technologic progress as a source of general human happiness anymore. On individual level true happiness is to be found in wisdom. Wisdom is to be acquired through the contemplation of our past as a civilization. Without this wisdom, there would be no Future for us as a species, at least not a glorious one, not a fulfilling and happy one.
My personal favorite as a symbol is:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/98/46/a5/9846a549f61000014019a9e969ed8394.jpg
Swastika is my second best, Celtic Cross comes third.
Each one of these symbols has a profound meaning and can be used as a “Yantra” for mental practice. But you probably already know that.
Savinkovite, NatPop Russia is where it’s at.
Kaiserreich-timeline though.
I think the nice thing about 40k was that it actually addresses multiple humans progress movements, giving us their greatest and worst faces. Transhumanism for the Priesthood of Mars, Genetic Supremacy to an extent through various schemes of the God-Emperor, and more importantly, the concept of “Spiritual Evolution of the Race” which the Emperor was attempting to guide, and reaching a new stage with the “Psychic Awakening.” This in particular really connected to a lot of ongoing occult movements and their thoughts about coming ages of rapid spiritual and psychic evolution.
For me, I think our future will be similar. Humanity needs tools, even for sorcery, because no living human is a walking, genuinely powerful saint or psyker who can just “do things.” Technology without belief or understanding is also dangerous. Basically, why not do both and see what works?
All the while, keeping the Chaos Gods from corrupting our souls as we use the warp (aether, black matter, noosphere) to our benefit.
Honestly, while a lot of times, being a disgruntled American National Populist, I can sound like a White Nationalist, really, I just want a galactic feudal empire where we can all work together to find our best self and fight something worthwhile. Maybe ascend to Demi-Godhood while we’re at it.
Israel is certainly a very interesting and productive society, which has a talented, energetic and outcome oriented population. If they manage to have peace with their neighbors, then the future of Israel will be very bright. I have no doubt about it.
And ThuFri is right, Karlin would fit in there perfectly. Both on the psychotype and phenotype levels. I am pretty certain that many people who get to know him in RusFed are initially inclined to see him as being of Jewish ancestry. He has it in him: the wit, the fast thinking, the humour, the rootlessness, the cosmopolitan touche à tout approach.
He should go to some Kibbutz, marry and have cute energetic children, then work in a startup in some futuristic tech sector. He would be happy that way.
I think Anatoly could take the sun. I have seen some Jews from Israel – unmistakably Middle Eastern nose, but very pale skin (perhaps, bookish college students who would tan, if exposed to the sun?), and I wonder how they can take the sun. I am 100% sure it would kill me dead.
But I wonder if Russian Jews in Israel take digs at Ukraine? If not, perhaps, he would not be happy there.
This idea of expanding Israeli citizenship is interesting, though. If the glue is the Holocaust, would it really matter, if they took in anyone with a liberal mindset? Or any Western elites. To your earlier point about an Arab and Jewish convergence: my impression is that a lot of Arab elites – or oil Arabs – go to international schools where they are molded into the current global mindset. To signal status against non-oil Arabs and against Europeans, they really trumpet the Holocaust at a drop of a hat. But maybe, that is only until the oil checks stop, and Israelis would do well to keep them out.
He would get cancelled by the woke in any “proper 1st world country” whatever that means these days. Moscow has less typhus spreading rats than Los Angeles City Hall.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-angeles-homeless-camps-city-hall-rats-civic-hall-sanitation-crisis/
haha, nice to spot such a genuine and honest fan of interwar Lithuanian parliamentarism popping up here 🙂 btw, post-stalinist Soviet period can be viewed as somewhat tolerable just for the one reason that under our local kinda national-communist leader Snieckus (IIRC the only one local leader in USSR who managed to rule uninterupted under Stalin, Kruschev and Breznev) numbers of imported Soviet colonists were somehow kept at manageable levels, which was stark difference from Estonia&Latvia at the same time.
As for the tzars, have no any problem for admiting that it was better to be Lithuanian under their rule in 19th century than Irishman at the sime time under the rule of British empire 😉
But what all of the above has got to do with the modern RF premeditated incitement and organizing of hot “civil war” in eastern Ukraine, I have no idea.
Bashibuzuk is not representative of the average nationalist that AK interacts with, I’d say.
I disagree, Qing emperors were ardent builders of huge Buddhist monasteries and imperial palaces. Northern Hebei is full of such imperial construction projects, like Puning temple or truly massive Putuo Zongcheng Temple, Buddhist statues there are colossal, roofs and ornaments there are full of gold and silver. Then there’s the imperial resort of Chengde,which was build as a microcosm of the huge empire. European mansions, scenic areas and palaces are small in scope in comparison with those build by Qing.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Putuo_Zongcheng_Temple.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Chengde_1875-1890.jpg/1280px-Chengde_1875-1890.jpg
These are just few examples, Qing funded the building of world’s biggest monasteries in Qinghai and Gansu, like Labrang and Kumbum, there’s nothing comparable with them in Europe. Also I must say that Chinese bureaucracy was not so big as those employed by centralised European states of the 18th and 19th century, it was a mixed system of formal and informal ties, often provincial scholars were not directly employed or paid by the imperial government but gave generously their help out of their Confucian sensibilities and loyalty to the throne, of course emperor often rewarded with gifts and titles his loyal subjects, but amount of officials was relatively small, only about 0.3-0.5% of population was composed of scholar-official-gentry class.
You could say the same thing about a map of Russia divided up into its “Federal subjects”, which actually exist while the map you’ve shown is just some “regional” nonsense that the anti-British elites have never managed to actually bring into existence.
Yes, I’m just extremely well known for my philo-Semitism.
“Railroaded” by Bashibuzuk (a person who emigrated for good in the mid-1990s) and people with handles like “Kent Nationalist”?
There are literal liberal Jews who repat to Moscow or SPB because Israel is one big village outside Tel Aviv. Sometimes for the express purpose of shitting on Russia, e.g. David Homak: https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1289165569808142337
Probably hard to believe for someone who obsesses about “Poor People’s Parity” like others do about JQ matters, but it is what is it is.
Bashibuzuk is an idealist dreamer, not a pragmatist or a genuine Russian patriot. By giving respect to such scum as Vlasov, he shits on the sensibilities of majority of Russians and Rossiyane, who fought valiantly in defense of their common motherland, Commies were no good, but their plans were humane in comparison what Nazis were planning for Slavs. If he would be a Han he would probably understand Taiwanese Hanjian collaborators and traitors, even say that they fought for real China against foreign infiltration or something as stupid. There are no perfect leaders and societies are made of men, not angels, things could have gone much, much worse without Putin.
Accepting reality as it is, and not as one would wish it to be, is a first step on a path towards wisdom.
Of course Yugoslavia and Serbia aren’t and never were as violent as the US on a day to day level, they don’t have the same racial dynamic for a start.
To try and compare them as if Yugoslavia and Serbia has something to teach the US, or that they are a model the US should copy, is ignorant to racial realities at best, if not disingenuous.
Albanians in Kosovo is probably the closest parallel with Yugoslavia in regards to non-whites in the US and other Western countries, and how’s that worked out for Serbia? Not very well last time I checked.
Correct. Being neither NSDAP nor WN, I fail to see how that’s of relevance to me. Or to Russian nationalists (again, as opposed to NSDAP’ists or WN’s).
Sad because he was a colorful fellow, but I don’t recall him even claiming to be a nationalist, and was drifting towards libertarianism in his final couple of years. https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1306970990841397249
Practically, I think it’s obvious Tesak was a net negative so far as Russian nationalism is concerned. No meaningful theoretical or practical contributions (even Milchakov, psychopath that he is, killed some other psychopaths from Aidar, which at least is a useful thing to do), but did provoke a near decade-long crackdown on Russian nationalist activists that only ended around 2019.
It is called a generalization. When I say that blacks aren’t bright, that women and East Asians are conformists, or that Jews have a lot of chutzpah, I do not usually bother adding on average because I assume that I am not talking with morons or SJWs.
But yes, I do think it’s safe to say that JQ’ists don’t have high IQs (sigh… on average). I can cite statistics, but one can infer this by simply reading the comments to a typical JQ article and noting their level of grammar, spelling, punctuation, spamming of videos instead of making their own arguments, etc. There are obviously exceptions, e.g. Bobby Fischer.
Have you actually read it? There is nothing in common with it, and demented screeds like Rodzaevsky’s.
50 million deracinated yokels happily prancing about in swastika-themed kosovorotkas and just about literate enough to read the Autobahn signs to not get run over by Germans in their Volkswagens. If there’s one thing I don’t blame Stalin for, apart from shooting the Old Bolsheviks, it’s shooting these people too.
You know what’s coming from me to that comment , so why do you do it?
Lithuania has the smallest percentage population of russians/bel/ukr out of all the European ex USSR States…….. and “coincidentally” has by far the highest suicide rate, alcoholism and depopulation rate out of all of them, and probably any other country in the world!
You do know of course that Trump is not the first President to be impeached for Russia links in a completely joke court. Maybe Lithuanians initially electing that reasonably sane (for a baltic politician) and good guy instead of that American Nazi fugitive scumbag puppet they tried to impose on them….. was a sign that anti russian and anti Soviet attitudes of lithuanians are not reaching the levels that baltic/western apparatus brainwashing would like. I certainly have enjoyed all my trips to Lithuania.
As for Ukraine your “logic” is the same as saying the WTC stopped those planes, instead of the pilots of those planes deliberately flying into them! Completely deranged. You take advantage of the kind, peaceful nature of Russian/Soviet people who calmly allowed the USSR to dissolve into saying they are “inciting” or other BS. Facts are they took peaceful, proportionate, moral actions to protest another western imposed, farcical failed “revolution” on them.
Evil scum west and Banderastan launched war on them, with war being a direct condition for them to get western “help” and IMF loans ( first time IMF ever loaned to state in such disputed position)
Holocaust revisionists have very high IQs. The most famous ones have PHDs.
But it is silly to even engage in these status games. Any Nazi has a much more accurate understanding of the world than Jewish nerds like Moldbug or the (lol) psychiatrist.
You have recently written that Brezhnev was the least bad among the Soviet leaders. Now you write that Stalin has made commendable things (shooting these people). I think we both agree that you find Putin way more palatable today than when you made ROG Pogrom videos.
You find RusFed corruption levels acceptable, write that Central Asian immigration is no big deal and do not see a problem in RusFed’s subpar demographics. You believe winning the war against Ukraine will solve Russian-Ukrainian problems and pretend to think that RusFed in its present stare can withstand on her own the new Cold War with the West. Living under Vlad Putin (that you mocked a few years ago) is growing onto you.
You are drifting towards the RusFed mainstream opinions as you grow older. That is what вертикальная стабильность does to people: it uniformizes them. They become gray and boring and loose the divine spark that made them interesting.
So vast majority of Soviet PoWs died in German camps, but somehow vast majority of Jews did not? Or do Holocaust deniers also deny the deaths of millions of Poles, Russians and Ukrainians in German camps?
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1370125470084239363
LOL
Karlin’s attitude nowadays is very simple to explain. He is probably doing his thing in Russia, adapting to his new environment and evolving towards surviving and perhaps thriving there. Going all in into the JQ, Holocaust revisionism, Anticorruption agitation or WN militancy would instantly make him non handshake-worthy (a Russian slang: нерукопожатный). It would prevent him from ever becoming truly comfortable in the Putin’s RusFed. As Lenin famously wrote : existence defines consciousness. Our friend Karlin is simply becoming another professional RusFed patriot with a WH 40K and Dark Enlightenment twist about him that might find some appeal among the younger generations.
G-d bless and G-d speed. If that makes him happy then so be it…
LOL, that wasn’t me who made those videos. It was a person called Kirill Nesterov (not real name) with whom I used to make a podcast called ROG PR in 2017 along with pigdog, which launched the era of political podcasting in Russia. You can see the archive of those podcasts here: https://www.youtube.com/c/RussianHighlights/playlists
Tellingly, Nesterov denounced Russian nationalism around mid-2018 and renounced his former views and friends, including myself for that matter (“HBD scum”): https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1190729641193070593 He was last observed agitating on the streets of Minsk against Lukashenko. Maybe you should join him there, since your views are increasingly indistinguishable anyway.
Here is what he produces these days:
Says an ossified fossil from the 1990s.
Posting about Caucasoid IQ doesn’t make me handshakeworthy either. It could be just that I don’t want to associate with wrong and useless ideas, but do continue psychoanalyzing me from your American sofa.
His Twitter bio has “Anarcho-lib” in it but unfortunately the Tweets are protected.
So how would people compare their grammar skills and the state of their IQ compared to Giraldi and Kevin MacDonald?
https://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-indispensable-middle-east-ally-united-states-opinion-1575269
Opinion article shilling for Saudi Arabia.
He writes
but then a couple of sentences later…
I know, you were associated with him for a time along Prosvirnin. I used to have a lot of fun listening to your videos. They were mainly silly, but at least they were amusing. I still watch Prosvirnin’s output from time to time.
You have successfully slayed this strawman, now ride your rocking horse back home.
You are aware that the transhumanism you are so fond of is a typically 90ies trope?
If I was ossified I would have stayed by my 90ies interests, which included transhumanism among other things I have left behind. But growing older is gaining wisdom and losing illusions.
Just saying…
I find your conversations with Bashibuzuk to be perhaps the most interesting ones here at this blogsite. He’s able to open you up and pull things out of your vast knowledge base that you usually keep hidden to yourself. I hope that you appreciate him being the wonderful antagonist to you that he is.
I’ve been meaning to compliment you on the very interesting photos that you always seem to include that accompany your open threads. They’re either monochromatic ones or dark shaded color ones with a slightly dark veneer. The nourish effects are really quite good. Are you the photographer behind the lens for these great shots?
You’re becoming quite the writer!
DICh people do not read English speaking blogs, while professional Russian patriots agree about the DICh intelligence being “less abstract ” to state it mildly. It is not a thought crime in Russia to dwell on these issues, as long as you don’t attract the attention of Ramzan’s tough guys. If you do, then all you will need to do is publicly apologize as you already did when you wrote that were “Subhumans” because they did not always respect the mask-wearing recommendations. Apologizing then was no big deal, was it?
Thanks goodness I do not live in US, although I have had a couple of offers to move there to work in my professional field. And I would certainly not waste my time on your psychological evolution if you did not (now wrongly) name your blog “Russian Reaction ” and self-identify (increasingly erroneously) as a “Russian Nationalist”.
BTW, why don’t you describe what being a “Russian Nationalist” means for you nowadays?
I would not mention Vlasov in the same breath as, for example, Krasnov or Shkuro. The latter never took Soviet citizenship and were always enemies of the evil Bolshevik terrorists who had occupied their country. They were wrong to support an even greater evil for Russia, but likely due to having been ignorant or misguided about the extent of the evil which they served (perhaps as a result of having been blinded by their justified hatred of the Bolsheviks). May they, indeed, rest in peace. As you may know, Krasnov’s nephew helped to prevent Bolsheviks from coming to power in Chile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Krassnoff
Vlasov, OTOH, participated in the Civil War on the side of the Bolsheviks, thus betraying the Russian people. He was an ardent Bolshevik with a successful career, surviving the purges and achieving the highest status. The blood of millions of Russians and Ukrainians is thus partially on his hands. Only after he was captured did he betray the regime – at a time when it was clear how bad his new masters were.
Thanks for bringing up those other guys I had not been aware of.
I’ve wondered about where it is that you actually live. No need to reveal that because I’m not trying to dox you. I used to think that it was perhaps somewhere in the Northeast US. Now, I’d put my money on somewhere in Eastern Canada (a big place, I know). Live long and prosper! 🙂
The whole twentieth century was a terrible tragedy for Russians and Eastern Slavs in general. The Jewish Question played a very sinister role in these unfortunate events. It is easy to write something moving about it. So much numan drama, passion, suffering. Broken and distorted destinies, occasional epiphanies and illuminations. Courage and cowardice, honor and betrayal.
Anyone could write something palatable about these events. That is, if someone has the guts to swallow and digest all the black pills and follow the rabbit holes to their very end. A lot of people prefer not to dive too deep, others get stuck in that labyrinth.
We cannot blame them.
Objectively Putin has not been bad for the Russian people from a nationalist perspective: their state and army are much stronger, more fertile, they have taken back some Russian-populated territory, all while being more prosperous and having much better and happier lives (unlike, say North Koreans, Argentines, or others who tend to pay a price when their governments pursue militaristic or nationalistic aims). Putin’s policies have led to a few thousand dead Russians in Donbas but on balance he is probably not bad from a Russian nationalist perspective.
But I think you are an all-Rus nationalist, not a Great Russian nationalist. From that perspective, Putin has been harmful. He has greatly deepened the division between Ukrainians and Russians. In a much milder and more humane way, Putin has followed the tradition of Andrei Bogolubski, sacker of Kiev, or Ivan Grozny, destroyer of the Novgorod people who had built up Muscovy at the expense of other Rus.
He himself
mentioned living in France.
You are a liar:
https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1281972653759377410
You increasingly remind me of one-time commenter Lazy Glossophiliac, a jilted sovok who stormed out of this blog when I dissed Stalin once too many times and now obsessively reveals all kinds of fascinating details about my life that even I never knew beforehand. You seem to be just his ideological inverse.
Getting useful things for Russians done – refer to: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-144/#comment-4524116
Playing around with kolovrats can be left to others. https://sunlight.net/catalog/pendants_89450.html
Couldn’t agree anymore. As out of touch with the reality as Russian émigré imperial loyalists were in the late 1940’s.
Bashibuzuk it’s time to kill your dreams, lest you become a prisoner of your illusions. Or maybe you are content with such existence?
Anyway it’s no good if Slavs or Han develop a strong national consciousness. Their duty and fate is to be the foundation stones for empires, they should have relatively loose framework identities which can easily accommodate and assimilate other nationalities, just look the Ukraine and Balkans and see what a strong national consciousness among Slavs does, it brings nothing else than just endless bickering and strife. There’s a good and desirable balance to be found between the nationalistic chauvinism of Europe of the past and modern progressivism which denies organic and traditional identities. Georgia is a good example, if they would be less nationalistic, their quality of life and population statistics would be much better than they are now. Nationalism is like salt, only good in moderation.
Thanks. Yes, they’re all my photos from my Samsung Note phone. I don’t have any techniques beyond some basic composition considerations and lighting adjustment.
Could it be argued that England is the youngest nation/culture in Europe? Anglo-Saxon tribes didn’t start invading Britain until the 5th century, and many would argue the English people and culture as they are known today didn’t exist until after the Norman invasion of 1066.
It seems that in comparison to other European nations, the ethnogenesis of the English people and culture is relatively late.
Although countries like Hungary and Albania seem to have a relatively late ethnogenesis too. The people who became Hungarians were basically Central Asian steppe tribes before the 9th century, and the Albanians aren’t even mentioned in historic sources until the 11th century, and the Albanian language isn’t mentioned until the 15th century. So arguably these nations/cultures are even younger than England?
I’ve read Albanians claim descent from the Illyrians, but that seems more wishful thinking than fact, the reality is Albanians seem like originally a mixture of tribes and people that over time have eventually merged to form a cohesive ethnic identity and language. Apparently about 80% of the words in the Albanian language are loan words, which backs this theory up.
https://youtu.be/Sfhp1-69Y8U
Good news for natural gas producers
https://twitter.com/aeberman12/status/1371100676521140225
Give freedom to others to criticise your belief! No brave man is afraid of his belief being criticised harshly! Give freedom to people to challenge your belief, to challenge your ideas, to challenge your values! Be brave enough to give freedom to people to question your most beloved believes! Don’t ever be a coward person who cannot defend his beliefs! ~ (Mehmet Murat ildan)
This I admire about AK. In many places such discussions are simply shutdown.
What about Spain or Portugal, both countries didn’t even exist in 1066, unlike England. English are as old as most European nations, lately you have become overtly critical and revisionists towards England and it’s history? What about Scotland? Their identity was still in flux in the 13th century, not yet fully Celtic Gaelic or Germanic Scottish.
Without denying the very existence of a serious problems, once again have to remind that high suicide rates are very similar in RF (25.1) as in Lithuania (26.1), also the alcohol consumption (RF 20.1 liters, LT 18.9) so the chain of thought associating suicides or alcoholism exclusively with lack or abundance of Soviet imported population is doubtful at least.
2019 WHO suicide data:
https://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.MHSUICIDE
2020 alcohol data:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/alcohol-consumption-by-country
There will eventually be three gas pipelines running from Russia to China.
Power of Siberia already completed, which runs through Manchuria.
Power of Siberia Two under construction, which will run through Mongolia.
Power of Siberia Three planned but then replaced by Power of Siberia Two Route instead. Which will eventually be built IMHO, will go through Northern Xinjiang.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSljQIRLMP0wVz3Elhe9ZB-EeOIj7LJQMSe8w&usqp.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRN_9mY_N5ZuG5ullMo2Ghk7JDRiNOaBIsOkw&usqp.jpg
Some open threads ago, I got tremendous pushback from the usual quarter of reactionaries about how it would be impossible to make bicycling in Moscow a serious – or even primary – transportation alternative because muh snow, basically.
This excuse about the weather needs a good debunking.
A basic rule of transportation is that induced demand need to be taken seriously. Just building more highway monstrocities won’t help:
https://i.redd.it/tjnc51aq5km61.jpg
This kind of devastation should rightfully be called a crime against humanity.
Yet, Moscow is still among the single worst cities in the world in car congestion & delays. Building out metros is not enough. The solution lies in shifting as many of the population onto bicycles as humanly possible. It would also solve the eye cancer of people parking on the sidewalks (so prevalent in EE countries), as cars would be relegated to a distant third or fourth among the choices people can have. It’s not about asking people nicely, but to make car-usage so inconvenient and penalised so as to shift preference and behaviour. Incentives matter, after all.
The only real constraint is political, as car cucks are the ultimate NIMBY:s here. They are the ones around who urban policy was designed for this past century and they will not let go of that privilege until you pry it from their cold, dead hands. And you should.
https://twitter.com/Russia/status/1313090041644830720?s=20
https://youtu.be/JiFFDJglSxE
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5O94aMXkAUsic1.jpg
Worldpopulationreview is a very bad source. The numbers are often incorrect to a bizarre level and that seems to be the case for the statistics on alcohol consumption. They put Afghanistan as having the world’s highest alcohol consumption. Then in the top is Algeria, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan as well.
They give a link to a source on the page but the statistics can’t be found there. It’s very weird, the statistics on worldpopulationreview seem to often just be made up.
Did you read the Moldbug analysis of Scott Alexander’s response to his NYTimes doxx?
Not the whole thing. Nobody could do that. But the paragraph about how by the end of a Scott post he is in total agreement, with perhaps sometimes the most-silliest-trivial-black-swan-quibbles, with what the people in charge are telling the masses to think and believe?
Nobody likes a complainer. The fellow who writes the main text can’t be as freewheeling as us dorks who write the comments.
Agree but its different I think, Han qua Han nationalism isn’t really a thing since
Han subgroup differences often times greater than Han with non-Han. E.g. Canto vs. Hunan difference > Northern Chinese vs. Manchu
Most Hans in core regions rarely come across distinctly non-Han Chinese
Some non-Hans are simply unassimilated speakers of relic Sino-Tibetan languages that don’t have their own script, e.g. Tujia
Did someone say Swastika?
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3dg0cNjqC0U/TJj_r9Xh2eI/AAAAAAAADH0/3_qZB9tMKb0/s1600/swastika-dalai-lama.jpg
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https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/3rd-Trijang1-1.jpg
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Well I’m not interested in “beef” either, but nor do I appreciate attempts to humiliate me – especially by making up things I expressly did not say. FWIW.
I’m always happy to meet up. Feel free to drop me a note when you’re in Moscow.
@Anatoly Karlin
I think blockchain and crypto have a future, but I am a bit coin skeptic.
Right now it is mainly boomers and Gen x who will buy bitcoin at the low. Gen Z and younger will miss out on the appreciation.
So why wouldn’t the younger generations just make their own crypto currency? One where they will see appreciation?
There are far right Han, who hate CCP and various ethnic minorities, such creatures are a threat to Chinese state, as various petty Slavic nationalists are to the Russian state. Sadly Russian Empire is now in state of disarray, just like China was in the 20s and 30s, but the era of fragmentation will continue only as long as America is capable of projecting political and economic power in Eastern Europe, so in other words current situation is only temporary, in the end limitrophes cant overcome their geography, before or later American power will recede. Now Russia must bide it’s time, and do it’s best so that it will not lose its traditional imperialistic characteristics and become a nation state. Though in long run contemporary Russian weakness has been good in regards of making possible economic integration with China, ideally China should be the older brother and Russia the younger. With improving means of communication and trade, globalisation is the natural turn of the events, we must replace the Atlanticist led globalisation with the Sino-Russian led globalisation. It’s my dream that such coalition would “Rule all under the heaven!” Such alliance would have less interference on local native value systems and traditions than the current dominant pseudo-religious progressive liberalist world order. Therefore it’s more moral system of international relations.
Manchus are an exceptional case, their acculturation with Han has continued centuries, after 1644 majority of Manchus has lived in Han cities. So it’s not strange if they have partially lost their ethnic characteristics.
No.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/12/14/czech-russian-relations-and-the-roa-conflicting-historical-narratives/
In 1940s, the great Hollywood films seem often to be from either a Central European Jewish immigrants who were acculturated in a tradition of opera (Billy Wilder, Fritz Lang, Charles Victor, Michael Curtiz, et al), or from an American culture with influence of the 19th century American transcendentalism, moral messages about self-reliance and frontier values. including a lot of violence (John Huston, Howard Hawks, John Ford).
So for example, there is the very “Central European” atmosphere films Billy Wilder’s Sunset Boulevard, made from immigrants from Hungary, Austria and Germany, that grew up with the opera as the art that they tried to recreate. This is like the “sophisticated coffee drinking” Viennese Hollywood atmosphere films.
https://i.imgur.com/u6tqEBl.jpg
On the other hand, there was also great Hollywood films who have a message which is mixture of protestant sermons and nature spirituality (American transcendentalism). I think John Huston films have such a brutal morality and frontier mythology, that emerged locally in the American 19th century.
https://i.imgur.com/ZpSOFed.jpg
People are allowed to change their views over time – especially in terms of what they believed at a younger age. Some are sincere unlike others. No proof whatsoever that Vlasov committed murder along the lines of Stalin, Beria et al. Should Zhukov also be written off as a Commie mass murderer?
In thought, Krasnov seems to have carried on more like a Nazi than Vlasov.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/12/14/czech-russian-relations-and-the-roa-conflicting-historical-narratives/
Stalin is responsible for far more Russian and other deaths than what Vlasov could ever be legitimately accused of.
It’s funny because your criteria for first world country is “you can drink tap water”, while I think my criteria for a civilized country is to have “modern and useable public transport”.
Here is something from the Cold War. For you Russia will not be considered a first world country, due to the bad quality of tap water in certain cities. On the other hand, for me, America never feels quite like a first world, civilized, country, due to the low quality of public transport in certain cities.
A svido historical overview. “Ivan Grozny” was a Riurik, the Rus dynastic line, with Bogolyubsky having a legit claim to the Kiev throne against those who opposed him.
Modern nations the world over have seen civil strife in earlier times. Making Ivan the the Fierce, Bogolyubsky and Putin the negative heavy in their disputes with others is simplistic propaganda.
Putin has expressed sympathy with the idea of Russia and Ukraine being one, albeit with some different characteristics. Making him the heavy for the decline in Russo-Ukrainian relations is hogwash.
I think you people are confusing completely nationalism and imperialism (and the latter word has a developed a negative connotation as result of Lenin’s theories).
Putin is the opposite of a nationalist, but of course he is a moderate imperialist (from his own youth in the golden age of the Soviet Union).
His main ideological position is a post-revolutionary conservatism, after stabilizing among the position in the elite that was created in the 1990s. The need to stabilize the government and society is how conservatism was often understood in the 19th century (it had a connotation than in America).
Of course, Putin is good for Russia, in a kind of way that probably ordinary Egyptians can understand that el-Sisi is good for Egypt.
Is there any Nazi today who likes white people today as they actually are?
When you realise not, you will see why white people despise Nazis the most of any group in the world.
Biggest major Holocaust denying demographic in the US are young Latino males. Castizo futurism shows us the way!
https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1170020045247983616
Scumbag who helped crush the anti-Bolshevik rebellion in Tambov. But Vlasov managed to work for two Russian-killing governments. Zhukov at least stopped one of them, so perhaps he redeemed himself of his early crimes.
Just to be clear – you are a Vlasovite, right? Don’t be ashamed to admit it 🙂
For years Vlasovites used their arms in behalf of the Nazi Germany, and only rose in revolt when German cause was utterly and decisively lost, their defection was purely opportunistic, 5th of may, 1945, they changed side only three days before the complete surrender of Wehrmacht! Why not one or two months before? Like rats they thought that they would get better terms of surrender if they would once again betray their masters.
More like a couple of months. Not that I disagree with them only being opportunistic.
As soldiers of ROA, yes, but Germans used Russian “volunteers” or Hiwis massively already in 1942. Most soldiers of ROA probably had a background as a Hiwi helping the Wehrmacht long before the establishment of separate Russian army under Germany.
These are complicated questions, it’s well known fact that all Soviet PoW’s were traitors in the eyes of the Stalin, so many of the Vlasovites were just unlucky victims of circumstances, but OTOH many others continued resistance as PoW’s, sabotaged German war efforts, or tried to escape and join partisans.
I didn’t write that Putin was himself a nationalist; rather, there is much about his rule that a nationalist would approve of.
Well said, I agree with this. He is in essence a “conservative” of the post-Soviet bandit regime, an agent of its stabilization and consolidation. For this process to work, benefits ought to trickle down to the regular people to a large degree, and they certainly have done so.
The “7%” problem was enough for seven states to secede before Lincoln even took the oath of office. Secession is great in theory but leads to war in almost any polity. Fire-eating southerners put Lincoln in a much tougher spot than you lead on.
Correct. The irony being that historically white southerners have been the least resentful of jews, much less so than NE WASPs in the 18th and 19th centuries. White ethnics and blacks certainly no better either. I’m not quite sure why Hispanics have a more acute antisemitics impluse.
I dislike the “New Russians,” they are scum, not any better, or maybe even worse than common thieves, but I have understood that you are a traditionalist and an admirer of the feudal Europe of the past. Isn’t it a fact that medieval nobles had their origins in thieving and marauding warlords of the Migration Era? All those noble families were originally petty chieftains who had sensibilities of a Mafioso, they illegally crossed the Roman frontier and made mockery of Roman laws and established the system of strongest, but in the end they got refined and delicate, why such development could not be repeated with the Russian oligarch class? At least they are under the control of state, unlike their Ukrainian peers, therefore it’s easier to rein them for the welfare of state and community.
Putin is not an explicit nationalist himself.
However, his most often quoted philosopher is Ivan Ilyin. Second: Berdyaev. So he is clearly, at a minimum, much less “sovok” than the average post-sovok bureaucrat.
Nationalist-in-all-but-name governors have been able to govern and implement de facto nationalist programs under his regime, e.g. https://acer120.livejournal.com/175345.html (Tver was doing pretty well when I visited in 2019: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/tver-2019/)
I am more interested in results than optics, so I don’t feel the need to counter-signal what’s clearly becoming a better deal with every year.
To some extent, I suppose there might even be an ironic parallel with Brezhnev, in whose later years a “Russian Party” within the CPSU became quite influential (before being dismantled under Andropov). Ironic because the usual parallels made between Putin and Brezhnev are not the flattering kind.
I honestly would like to see the whole 1st to 3rd world rubric revised. Not even to punish the lowest tier, though surely any logical system would place Sub-Saharan below a place like Malaysia. But what I’d really like to see it changed for is to punish American elites (and some in other countries), for their vanity that America’s status is somehow locked-in at the top, and that it hasn’t declined. The real problem with tap water is that once you have the infrastructure – the protected reservoirs and the treatment plants, it is not as good a measure of decline as public restrooms.
IMO, it would be very beneficial, if they were forced to admit that Japan is a better place in some ways.
Transportation is not a bad rating tool either, but what I don’t like about it is that the first solution suggested would not be the necessary reforms but rather more money – probably stolen from people who don’t use it. Money helps, but I think it is a more complicated problem than that. For example, it costs an enormous amount to build a new track in America – that is not a money problem but something else. And people are afraid to use the subway in some areas, for reasons other than funding.
https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1370098779643330563
There was only one Union death at Fort Sumter, and it was accidental, due to a salute. And they should not have been there to start, anyway.
I’ve heard that in South Africa, the maps in school books are messed up. Countries names are misspelled, and sometimes the names are switched, like they will label Greenland, “Iceland.”
I find that really shocking. First, you think there would be some free open-license map that they would find on the internet. Secondly, even if the books are old, and they copied a map, you think they would at least get the names right. Have someone check it.
Only country in Africa with a nuclear power plant – I think still. I hope the ones Putin is selling have top of the line automation and safety built-in.
Absolutely. Jews tend to be as clueless. Imagine thinking that Britain is uniquely anti-Semitic when the greatest imperial prime-minister was a guy called Disraeli.
I prefer Palmerston, but close enough…
I was aware of the role played by Tukhatchevskyi in putting down the Tambov uprising. I did not know about Zhukov.
ROA people betrayed the Soviet State, they did not betray Russian people. The Soviet State was not the state of Russian people.
The only wrong thing ROA people and other anti-Soviet fighters did was not fighting to the bitter end. They paid it dearly though.
However, even in the camps they rebelled at the first occasion, sometimes joining forces with the Ukrainian nationalists.
Now, I am far from saying that Red Army soldiers of which my grandfather was one of the officers in the artillery, while his brother was in the tanks, did not do the right thing. One of my grandfather’s relatives was with the NKVD, another was with the Banderites and got only killed in 1948.
Families were divided. Both sides were partly right in their convictions. The second world War in Russia was in many aspects the follow up to the Civil War. As I always write, if there was no October Revolution, there would probably be no Hitler’s rise to power and no Operation Barbarossa.
Yikes, considering wages!
And a lot of European roads aren’t nearly as good as they are said to be – very few roads with breakdown lanes or even significant shoulders.
You and Thulean need to fight.
You’ve heard that. Okay. As dysfunctional as South Africa is I doubt they keep using school books with obvious errors like that.
And Ukraine managed to keep over 90+% of its territory under its rule. The only reason that it failed to keep Crimea and the Donbass was due to (either direct, as in Crimea, or covert, as in the Donbass) Russian military intervention. Just who exactly other than the Chinese is actually going to be powerful enough to militarily intervene in a Second American Civil War? And would even the Chinese actually bother doing this?
There used to be a surprising number of Spanish admirers of the Fuhrer as well. In that case the tendency seemed to be for Holocaust narratives to be ignored on the basis that they were propaganda myths created by Communists, Free Masons or Anglos to blacken the name of a great European statesman. I never remember Jews themselves being mentioned that much, which was interesting.
These foreign adventurers would need to be backed up with some extremely powerful foreign military muscle, though. Other than the Chinese, just which countries are actually militarily stronger than the US–either now or in the future?
What MASSIVELY helped the Donbass separatists avoid a quick and early defeat in August 2014 was the fact that Russia has 3-4 times as many people as Ukraine has and also 6+ times as much military muscle as Ukraine has.
Even Igor Girkin (“Strelkov”) himself said in an interview that the Donbass would have likely ended up like Kharkiv or Odessa if not for him and his gang of merry men.
Did he actually have much of a choice in the matter? Would martyrdom have been better for him?
If several states declare independence after, say, a new Constitutional convention in response to a federal arms ban, then you won’t need foreign interventionists, assuming state National Guardsmen side with separatist lawmakers. Though they will certainly “spice things up” once it gets going.
My guess in this highly hypothetical scenario is that Russia will provide propaganda support and possibly covert military support to the separatists. For its part, China may support the Chapo/leftist elements within the USG, who could try to pull off their own coup in the event of regime setbacks.
I heard it in the formula “My daughter’s textbook…” I should add that I also heard that the math problems that have answers in the back, sometimes have the wrong answers.
Call me gullible, but I believe it. Textbooks are a big racket in the US, and I can’t perceive how it would be different in what seems to obviously be a more corrupt country, that has a far lower average IQ.
The possible implication here is that we should be looking at more than just PISA results. That, in some places, the textbooks themselves might contain clues to societal IQ. Probably, one could even perceive a decline in the US by looking at more recent textbooks. Or the assigned reading – would be easy to rate vocab.
A serious case of false equivalency, Soviet Russia was infinitely more the state of Russian people than Germany led by Adolf Hitler!
My father’s father’s father died fighting against the Red Army. Thanks to the Soviets my paternal grandpa grew up without father, but my mother’s mother’s father was an officer of NKVD.
My last war veteran relative, my grandmother’s uncle, died in previous year, he was 101 years old, I partially blame the covid hystery, his retirement home didn’t allow any visitors and his mental and physical health started to decay quickly under the lockdown. I’m proud that most of my ancestors have been in a war, you know in real wars, unlike American veterans with their heavy air support etc.. Or Swedes with their over two centuries of peace, in such circumstances beings start to believe that Samsara is a nice place, that one can find a true peace and happiness from it, longer the time of peace – heavier the fall and pain after it ends… and all things will end, it’s their nature after all…
Do you know how much petrol costs in India? More than 1.10 USD per litre!
That type of error is pretty common in university textbooks in the West. They usually get fixed for the next print. I don’t doubt that such issues are even worse in South Africa. But I do doubt that they go years and years without fixing school books that have maps with mislabeled countries.
Thorium.
I was all for Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine, but now sadly, in hindsight, I must acknowledge that in the longer run it would have been better for Russia if Donbass would have ended up like Kharkov or Odessa(thanks for using the Russian form btw). Pro-Russian forces would be much stronger inside Ukraine and there would be fewer sanctions against Russia, in the end Girkin did a huge disservice for Russia. Or so it seems at the present moment, who knows what’s the situation in five years?
I believe in the principle that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Strelkov did absolutely nothing wrong.
Who cares how strong they are if they are going to be repressed and disenfranchised anyway.
I get the impression that the European aspects of WW2 are really receding in perceived importance lately, because basically there weren’t enough blacks, or second best, South Asians, involved in it. There are even some indications, though mainly from the US so far, of Woke attempts to displace the Holocaust as the cornerstone of 20th century history because it is too white people focused. Discussion of it therefore reproduces white supremacy.
Not to mention France, Holy Roman Germany & Italy & the Low Countries, the various combinations of the not quite country of Scandinavia. Greece and other Ottoman territories (sorry Post Byzantine).
On the whole, I think England and France are rather old. Burgundy, Brittany and Savoy are late arrivals in France but not very late arrivals, although Mussolini wanted Savoy. Spain and Portugal too.
Wales was incorporated into England in 1536. GB formed in 1707 with a union with Scotland. The UK formed in 1801 when Ireland joined in. So all more or less pre Napoleon who really founded modern European nations as ideas even if Germany and Italy took their time. Germany is not complete. The East Slavs still don’t know where they begin and end. Where precisely is West Russia?
Constitutionally speaking the US is older than most of Europe, monarchies included.
With ~45% rather than ~30% support they could still cause a lot of trouble for Ukrainian interests in Ukraine. It would be tempting for someone to cut a deal with such a large bloc. Thank God they have been removed, with Russian help.
I don’t quite believe the claim that she had the virus. 5 year olds, have virtually no receptors for SARS2 to bind to. Females have fewer than males at any age.
I don’t doubt that the Russian price is fair. It just seems like it would take a bite out of the average person with a car. My impression is that car costs in Russia are high – didn’t they pioneer using car cams for insurance purposes?
I have sympathy with Indians just for having to drive on choked streets, so I can understand where TF is coming from, even if I think he should delay his plans to drop every car into a crusher, until he has driven the USA from coast-to-coast, utilizing a combustion engine with at least 6 cylinders.
Your maternal ancestors were better than your paternal ones (but I don’t blame you for defending both, it’s the decent thing to do, as it’s your family).
Neither of my grandfathers fought in World War II; one was a student, the other was a bit too old, he ran a large enterprise. Fighting-age brothers of my grandparents were officers in the Polish army in the case of Galicians, and Red Army (this one died during the war while retaking Crimea). An Austrian-born cousin was an officer in the Wehrmacht, spent the war as a translator, hanging out in Lviv with his local relatives.
Manchus are the latest in waves of Inner Asian peoples to assimilate. Northern Hans tend to have kins on family tree who descended from them so don’t make a point to distinguish. Most of them are Altaic/Siberian and some Indo-Euros.
with scripts
Jurchen/Mongol/Khitan/Gokturk/Tanguts
earlier in history and without scripts
Xianbei/Five Barbarians/and many more…
Pretty easy sell to get them to give up their feral lifestyles when the alternative is higher standard of living with cultivated learning.
Russia doesn’t benefit from a cordial/”brotherly” but separate relationship with Ukraine – it’s basically asking to it to finance Ukraine’s eventual integration into the West with no clear benefit for itself (what did it get out out of $200B of post-Soviet gas subsidies?).
Either there should be a real political union, to recreate an All-Russian would without the Soviet carapace and enjoy the attendant economies of scale. (Russia on its own will find it modestly harder to expand into space and launch AGI without Ukraine and Belarus – the only things that matter in the long run; in Ukraine’s case, it will be flat out out impossible).
Or they should make a final divorce and evolve as fully separate nation-states. Hostility will be inevitable, but perhaps beneficial for both.
We disagree on certain details (a union between a smaller group and a much-larger group with a tendency for centralization will be unstable, and unhappy for the smaller party), but I agree with your overall approach ad strongly respect your goals.
Correct. I myself was surprised to see how close Poles were to Russians psychologically, minor “cultural” differences like Catholicism/Orthodoxy aside.
It also happens to be irrelevant IMO, because “brother nations” also happen to hate each other the most (“narcissism of small differences”). You can’t wish it away.
The Irish tribes were much closer to each other when the English came to colonize Ireland. They still sold each other out and stabbed each other out, because they hated their own more than the interloper.
Where does this number come from? Russia’s annual gas exports has been in range of $20B to $65B over the last two decades. Ukraine getting subsidies adding up to $200B means they must’ve taken a massive chunk of this.
For much of the war, the Vlasov commanded army under Nazi auspices did little fighting. The Nazis weren’t united on what to do with them. Some viewed them as a danger in their desire to oust Stalin for the purpose of having a stronger Russia.
The ROA/POA motivation to fight the Nazis was three fold. They didn’t like the way they were treated in conjunction with seeing how WW II was about to end and their sympathy for the Czechs and some others fighting the Nazis.
The ROA/POA don’t have anywhere near the negative baggage as the Ustasha, OUN/UPA and some others. Towards the end of the war, there as talk of Vlasov’s army linking up with Mihailovic’s anti-Communist Chetniks.
I think the public toilet level is dependent on cultural idiosyncrasies of the country.
It’s quite bad in Russia, but they seem to me even worse in Southern European countries like Spain (which can be leading everyone in some development indicators like life expectancy)
Most people anywhere would say that Japan is a more developed country than USA, but that’s not saying anything significant (as Japan is the world’s leading country for crime rates, life expectancy, civil engineering projects, etc).
But America itself is an especially confusing country to assess because of its unusual culture and spending patterns.
If you watching YouTube, you can be shocked by the wealth shown in the interiors of American peoples’ houses.
On the other hand, tourists walking in central Los Angeles, can be shocked in an opposite direction, by the low level of public investment in the country, and the homeless people rolling on the pavement.
Overall, I think tourists will usually underestimate how wealthy America is. A lot of wealth in America is inaccessible to public, and hidden inside peoples’ luxury houses, in suburbs which are only accessible by car.
I feel like a lot of America’s wealth is wasted by hiding it, while in golden ages of places like Venice or Seville, the national wealth was planted in the centre of the cities and the wider public could enjoy or at least see the investments every time they walk in the city squares. In this sense, it becomes a dual investment, that is also contributing to the public sphere.
Historically, the European cultures could also waste a lot of investments on palaces. But at least in countries like Italy these could be often viewable, or aesthetically contributing for, publicly accessible spaces.
When it reverses, it can also indicate where a country is collapsing.
For example, reading the Wikipedia article “Rail transport in Lebanon”, which says that trains do not exist in Lebanon since 2002. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Lebanon
So there does not exist even anymore “rail transport in Lebanon”, but there is an article of Wikipedia about its historical existence.
There is also a similar thing with the “Rail transport in Venezuala”, saying “80% of public transportation is not operational” – but guess at least they still have 20% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Venezuela
Since sometime in the 20th century, Americans also have the opposite of the Potemkin village culture. They seem to prefer more something like the anti-Potemkin village, where they like boasting to the world (including even at the government media level) about how dysfunctional their country is.
Whereas in Europe a lot of the public investment is partly motivated by trying to impress the rival nationalities. Why do English build St Pancras to be so much more stylish, clean and modern than other train stations in the United Kingdom? It’s because it is the first impression of London that the French are seeing, so they clean it constantly, hired the best designers, etc.
Vlasov was nominally allied with the Nazis. He clearly had different aims than the Nazis as noted by a key Nazi who publicly rebuked him. Regardless, Vlasov wasn’t responsible for as many Russian deaths as Stalin.
Offhand, the OUN/UPA might’ve killed more Ukrainians than the ROA/POA killed Russians.
It’s never too late. I met up with a friend of mine in Church today, and we agreed to forgive each other over some stupid little misunderstanding.
Yours is a great suggestion, a great new beginning! 🙂
Shifting gears, this is a good one:
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/how-harry-and-meghan-have-weaponized-cancel-culture-180210
Reminded of how a good number of sports journos and fans automatically supported Panarin’s decision to leave the Rangers for two weeks.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/02/27/putting-artemi-panarin-situation-in-proper-perspective/
Since that article, I’m leaning more in the direction that Panarin gaslighted the situation to help promote his anti-Putin views in addition to getting time off from his employer.
This is the number cited by Alexey Pushkov. He could be off. But it was a lot either way.
Oh boy, where should I start! Jürchens are Manchus, so you made an artificial distinction between them for some curious and puzzling reason? Mongols were never assimilated by the Han, I as a man of Mongol heritage can say this to you. Mongol and Han intermarriage was prohibited by Qing laws. Khitans were expelled, by the Jürchens from China and now they are mostly extinct, though the small ethnic group of Daurs is probably their descendant. Göktürks were also not assimilated by the Han, their closest living relatives are the modern day Tuvans, Kazakhs and Uyghurs. Tanguts were mostly exterminated by the Mongols, survivors were probably assimilated by Amdo Tibetans.
Only Manchus were assimilated in your list of peoples, and I have one Manchu friend, though he doesn’t make noise about his Manchu ethnicity, it’s clear to me after all these years of friendship that he is silently very proud about it, but I think that hundreds of years of living as a minority amidst the ocean of Han has made them wise and cunning about these matters. Most Han who claim Manchu heritage do not really have Manchu blood, but Han Bannermen blood instead.
Xianbei are direct ancestors of Mongols, haven’t seen Han Gers or yurts yet, yup Five Barbarians were assimilated by the Han.
In the eyes of great Qing emperors like Qianlong and Kangxi Han were degenerate, especially the southerners, Han are not degenerate on my opinion, but Northern Han are superior and should be in control, like Xi Jinping! Sad that vast majority of Han in the West are southerners, their cuisine is inferior. Anyway there was no assimilation of nomads north of the Great wall, don’t know why you need to make up these fairytales about the past. “Cultivated learning?” Confucian Mongol or Turkic scholar-officials? What have you been smoking? Only cultivated learning North of wall was Tibetan learning, not Han. The divide between agricultural and sedentary folks of plains (Han) and the nomads of steppes was not primarily because of cultural reasons, or because nomads lacked refinement and culture, but because of the harsh nature of steppes, where wheat and rice do not grow. No Han state could ever control steppes, though temporarily Tang did, but their dynasty was partially or fully of steppe origin, only steppe invader dynasties like Jin, Yuan and Qing could control the steppes more or less permanently. All those invader dynasties tried to keep their ethnic ruling elite separate from Han.
It’s better to have two healthy birds in the bush than to have one bird full of diseases in one’s hand.
Donbass was a tactical victory, but a strategic defeat for the Russia, it would’ve been too hard for fragile and young state of Ukraine to repress such volatile area as Donbass.
At least with Zaporozhye or Kharkov Russia would have had some valuable industries like Motor Sich(what a prize!) or Malyshev Tank factory, and not just old coal mines and steel plants. Even Mariupol was lost! Nothing of value was gained, just endless money sink of rump-Donbass but at least Neocons got their greatest post cold war victory. Oh well I’m always an optimist, now we must push the poison pill of Donbass to Ukraine, then we can look things from a new perspective! Ukraine’s feeble immune system cant digest such a wonderful treat. Then it’s time to chop, chop and chop!
I agree with what you wrote. But we must also keep in mind that populations mainly do what their elites entice or order them to do. A lot or Russians have Polish or PLC roots, this is my case on one side of my family : Orthodox Poles or Ruthenians, hard to say nowadays, it was probably the same thing backbin the 18 century.
When left alone among Russians, the Poles usually integrate in a few generations. Same about Russians among Poles. This is what I call compatible ethnic groups. In the future, when the elites will perhaps become increasingly more globalizing and anti-national, we might be left with only this type of compatibility to rebuild ethnic ensembles : who are our clan and kin? Those who have the same blood (genetic lineage) and think in a compatible way. Those who are part of your extended genetic family and whom you can rely upon.
I don’t think Tel Aviv is either anything more than feeling like some connected semi-abandoned villages, and not like a “big city”.
It feels like if you added together some decaying villages (some with filled with utopian hipsters, others with African workers), with a beautiful liberal-atmosphere beach resort, and then started randomly, chaotically planting huge skyscrapers all over it.
In the next years, Tel Aviv will be such an experiment for the observer, to see if it is possible for the introduction of public transport (in this case, a tram line), to create some sense of “city forming” coherence between disjointed villages.
Chinese are building a tram system there, which first line opens in 2022, and it will be seen if trams will create a sense of a city. (As it perhaps had when trams were first introduced in European cities).
You confuse me, so my relative who was in NKVD was the good guy in your opinion, and those who fought the Red Army were bad guys? Weren’t you an Ukrainian nationalist of Galician origins just some time ago?
https://twitter.com/Alexey_Pushkov/status/468318595613982720
This? That probably includes a lot more than gas subsidies. Like joint projects and Russia keeping various Ukrainian industries alive. But Ukraine still undoubtedly received a lot from gas subsidies.
In hindsight it seems like a bad choice of subsidies. It doesn’t give leverage. Stopping the gas subsidies and requiring Ukraine to pay market price just creates anger. Would be better off giving away cheap loans. Requiring repayment also creates anger but at least there is potential for recuperation of costs.
Ukraine is (or at least was) a major gas consumer for industrial and personal use. We have been exporting gas to them in great volumes ( a significant percentage of our western + Turkey exports) for the last 20-30 years.
If you compare this volume of natural gas delivered to them, with the paying rates offered to Poland/Baltics and ( though not as high) to Germany, then this 200 billion dollar subsidy quote makes perfect sense. Ukrop has been 1/6th to 1/7th of our export market previously, similar thing with Belarus
Again, sorry to keep coming back to this point, but you keep claiming to be a Russian nationalist, but then raise these Echo of Moscow/Navalnyist/RFERL/State Department talking points which should not only be irrelevant from a “spiritual” (which you are into) Russian national perspective (counting the value of Russian unity in shekels), but also happen to be factually wrong to boot (Donbass subsidies are a rounding error in the context of the Russian budget). Also I should point out that before the war Donbass was Ukraine’s richest region after Kiev, it’s hardly a basketcase by default. Integrated into Russia, it will likely become a net donor after a decade.
This is why Gerard is suspicious about your true motivations. OK, so he’s some sort of vatnik nutcase, but even I have began to think along similar lines.
They aren’t worth much per se after a generation of atrophy. From a purely functional perspective, Ukraine is valuable primarily for its human capital, not for some Soviet-era rustbelt factories which Russia has itself long replicated in many cases. A Russian with 200M people with ~97 average IQs (Russia + Ukraine + Belarus) will be more powerful, capable of asserting its sovereignty, and accomplishing meaningful thing than one with 150M.
This strikes me as painfully naive. Again, siblings are the most likely to stab each other in the back. Good walls make for good neighbors, as the English say.
I think this reply was to AP not me. I did not comment about your ancestors, AP did.
LOL, sorry. It is 5 am and my mind is a bit addled.
Altan is neither Russian, nor nationalist. Perhaps you have mixed up the both of us.
This depends on families. And some neighbors are better than others. Walls also happen to go down or simply fail to provide protection (Hadrian or Trojan walls or the Great Chinese Wall come to mind).
What is best is a win-win economic and cultural integration without domination or resentment. Fact is, post-Soviet elites failed on that account in both Russia and Ukraine. This is simply due to both these elites (better be said mafia clans) being much more interested in crossing each other for a couple billion dollars than building something durable. Also as long as the plebs on both side hate each other, they won’t unite to kick out the parasitic elite at the top. This is the old good “divide and rule” strategy.
Also the “Western Partners ” of VVP would love to turn Russians and Ukrainians into Serbs and Croatians 2.0.
Brings to mind Pelevin’s SNUFF with its “Orks’ wars” between the tribes of Great Khagans Rvan Durex and Dran Latex under the interested gaze of the civilized people up high…
Imagine a much-larger, pro-Russian Bulgaria or Greece type country (yes it would not be quite as friendly as Serbia) within the EU. Ukraine was heading in that direction. Prior to 2013 even Galicia was about 60% positive towards Russia as a country, it was pro-West but it’s beef was mostly with Donbas/Yanukovich.
Union with Russia has been bad for Ukraine both previous times it had been attempted.
Ideally Ukraine will integrate with its western neighbors and this entity will be friendly with and maybe even allied with Russia; France has been allied with Germany after World War II after all.
You have grossly misunderstood my logic, I desire from my whole heart that all Ukraine, becomes an inseparable part of Russia. I just speculated if Donbass as a part of Ukraine, would be more useful for realisation of Russia’s long term policy objectives. Now Russia pays for everything, and Ukraine not, even though Ukraine claims the area for itself, Donbass is economically blockaded and can’t have normal business relations with outside world, to top of that large part of its infrastructure is in ruins, so it’s relative pre war wealth doesn’t help much. With them as a part of Ukraine they could greatly help in destabilising that rotten state. I think Kremlins also think that in the longer run it would be better if Donbass would get an autonomous status as a part of Ukraine. Most important is the destabilisation and implosion of Ukraine, momentarily loss of Donbass for a greater reward seems to me to be a good strategy.
Worst thing about Donbass was that Ukrainian nationalists got much stronger in majority of Ukraine that was left…
By the way I don’t think that I’m a Russian nationalist, nor I have ever claimed to be a one.
Motor Sich was extremely valuable for Russian military not long time ago, and I believe it still is, but otherwise I fully agree with you. Odd that I got such a strong reaction from you. I believe that Donbass as Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolayev and Kiev belong to Russia, and have always belonged, and will always belong.
Sad that Gerard is suspicious about me, in my opinion his heart is somewhat rough but good.
Both Greece and Bulgaria have proven less than useless so far as Russian interests are concerned, opinion poll “Russophilia” regardless.
That’s not an unreasonable position from a Ukraino-centric vantage point. But what does Russia get out of it?
But I don’t see why Russia needs to privilege a neo-PLC as a partner (or the converse). Germany, Korea, and Italy offer advanced machine tools, China offers a counterweight against Western sanctions, India offers a hedge against too strong a dependence on China, even Israel offers some interesting tech products.
What does the PLC offer (making the bold assumption that it lets go of its butthurt and reparations demands)?
Yes you are correct, I rarely am awake so late as I’m now. Sorry if I sound confused, I really should go to sleep, good night everybody.
Btw Karlin I’m just an old fashioned imperialist with a tint of red, to me empires are jolly families of nations! Everything is better together!
True. But only because Russia chose to support the Ukrainian industry by not developing some types of engines and gas turbines that Ukrainians produced.
Sorry, again, as per above, I confused who I was replying to. 5 am poasting.
Seems that was broadly the plan during 2015-2019. Then it was progressively given up upon.
The Confederacy was well-armed in the early 1860s, but this didn’t prevent the Union from defeating and conquering them–albeit after a long war. What exactly makes you think that a 21st century U.S. separatist rebellion would be any more successful than the Confederacy’s attempt was? If anything, the Union would have a lot of supporters in blue urban areas within deep red territories this time around since most minorities in the U.S. vote for the Democrats nowadays–and there are much more of them now than in the 1860s, and they are also much more assertive nowadays in comparison to the enslaved and largely illiterate blacks in the Confederacy in the 1860s.
You could say “Minorities would make poor soldiers! They’re duller than MAGA Trumpists on average!” Well, maybe, but the Taliban are almost certainly likewise duller than U.S. troops are, and yet the U.S. has failed to decisively defeat the Taliban in spite of trying very hard to do this for the last 20 years!
Russia can get up to 200 million people by reproducing more. If you’re such a hardcore Russian nationalist, why exactly aren’t you making lots of little hybrid Lak-Russian babies, Anatoly? 😉
In any case, Ukraine’s population might decrease to 15-20 million by 2100, and out of those possibly 10 million are going to be hardcore svidomy. So, by 2100, there might be at best 10 million Ukrainians whom Russia might recover. Thus, it might be more prudent for Russia to actually get these Ukrainians to move to Russia as opposed to aiming to conquer additional Ukrainian territory. Would result in much less blowback and sanctions from the West that way.
Even a 200 million-strong Russia won’t be able to effectively compete against a 1 billion-strong China or against a 1 billion-strong Western bloc (the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the E.U., Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan). So, really, any Russian that searches for glory in Ukraine should know better. REAL Russian glory is to be found in successfully getting Russians to breed a lot and to do this eugenically. Theoretically, I suspect that Russia is capable of supporting a population of 500+ million people. Once its breeders will be up to the task, then this should happen. In the meantime, you could aim to achieve population growth by trying to copy what Israelis and/or cognitively elitist Westerners do–as in, combine policies that encourage high native fertility rates with cognitively elitist immigration policies. If the Sakhalin Koreans can successfully become Russians, why not other groups as well?
Ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, Russia’s biggest mistake was probably to seek a fight with Germany before it could actually get its own house in order. That, or not stop German unification in the first place. Though not stopping the development of Ukrainian nationalism in Galicia would definitely qualify as a close second.
A Russian Trojan horse inside of the E.U., if you will? By the way, didn’t the Ukrainian opposition (the pro-Western parties) largely OPPOSE keeping the Russian fleet in Crimea in 2010?
TBH, I just don’t see a crucial need for this. Ukraine’s population is likely to decrease to 15-20 million by 2100, and out of those, 10 million are likely to be hardcore svidomy. At the very most, by 2100, you might get 10 million “recoverable” Ukrainians. Not a big deal!
The U.S. could have performed better with Canada as well, but the U.S. isn’t throwing a hissy fit over not having Canada like Russia is over not having Ukraine!
As Anatoly Karlin previously asked, why exactly should Russian troops be cannon fodder in any future Sino-Western war?
If you compare it with the north of Russia, you can easily see the difference between the anthropological types of Southern Europe and Northern Europe.
https://stihi.ru/pics/2017/03/22/6725.jpg
http://rekvest.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0.jpg
Presumably its descendants of the Paleolithic hunters of Europe (in the North) and Neolithic migrants from the Middle East (in the South).
But if you exclude anthropology these girls in military uniforms are a 90% meaningless phenomenon (since they are militarily useless if not harmful)
Sorry, but it’s grammar nazi time: Harbin was probably a fascinating place back then.
With respect to the past tense of the verb “to be” (as opposed to “to go”), the rule of thumb is that was/were is virtually always strongly preferred to has/have been. This is especially the case when you include a preposition like “back then”; using has/have been here is simply ungrammatical. Without the preposition has/have been is grammatical, but it just sounds strange; incorrectly using was/were instead of has/have been generally sounds less strange. Eg “I was a good boy, I deserve a cookie!” still sounds okay, even though that would be generally phrased as “I’ve been a good boy, I deserve a cookie!”
Also, as a stylistic point, when posting, “didn’t” is almost always preferable to “did not.” (This doesn’t apply to more formal writing, as in a newspaper article.)
The problem was likely that Ukraine was never actually going to agree to the Kremlin’s desired federalization terms. After all, giving the Donbass veto power over joining the E.U. and NATO is as stupid as giving Texas veto power over joining any economic unions or military alliances. U.S. states simply don’t have that kind of power–and why exactly should they, unless they actually become independent countries?
Why exactly can’t the PLC offer technology comparable to that of Italy? Its average IQ would likely be comparable to that of Italy, no?
Just what exactly would the terms of such a deal have actually been, though? Because after their attempt to monopolize power in the Yanukovych years, I think that the pro-Western parties in Ukraine strongly distrusted the pro-Russian parties in Ukraine and were thus unwilling to actually work with them.
Ukraine can do this as a part of the West, no? After all, Ukraine would be more productive as a part of a 500 million-strong European bloc (or 1 billion-strong Western bloc if one also includes Britain, Canada, the U.S., Australia, and the pro-Western East Asian countries such as Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan) than as a part of a 200 million-strong East Slavic bloc. The larger the bloc, after all, the larger the hive mind, no?
In this regard, it was arguably stupid for Russia to insist on creating its own 200-300 million-strong Eurasian bloc as opposed to aiming to join the 1 billion-strong Western bloc–at least so long as Russian troops wouldn’t actually be used as Western cannon fodder in any future Sino-Western war. Russia can still create its own bloc, of course, but it would require centuries for it to develop the necessary population to rival either the Western bloc or China. Better hope that Russian breeders plus eugenics are up to the task!
If Putin wanted to be an all-Rus nationalist, he should have aimed to integrate Russia (and Belarus) into the European Union in order to create a 300 million-strong Slavic bloc within the European Union.
There might be a more concrete reason as to why a civil war in the U.S. nowadays might be problematic. Specifically, the urban and suburban areas in the U.S. are largely blue whereas the rural areas are largely red. But their economies are probably too interconnected–or at least this is my own suspicion in regards to this!
There are certainly intelligent Nazis, but on the whole, I find them moronic and very off-putting.
I know it’s all the same to lefties and liberals – anyone evincing pro-white attitudes is a “nazi” in their debased minds – but to me it is obviously possible to be pro-white and simultaneously disdainful of Nazis. And not just as some “marketing” tactic, but as a deeply felt ideological and moral commitment.
That said, I find that Nazis can sometimes be surprisingly insightful.
One of my favorites Nazi lines is: only Nazis and Jews understand what is happening.
Although it’s easy to quibble with and show that it’s not wholly accurate, it’s more profound than it seems at first glance. When a normie understands what it is trying to say, he will be much closer to comprehending political and racial reality than he is at present.
Such a decision isn’t Putin’s. The EU isn’t looking to take in Ukraine as a full fledged member, anytime soon if ever. Putin hasn’t been against Ukraine being a full member of the Eurasian Economic Union. The EU has a few too many pain the ass elements. Without Russian meddling , the EU is having problems.
Ukraine could become an EU member around 2050, if it’s lucky, or much later than that, if it’s unlucky.
Poles are considerably less homophobic than Russians are, though.
Makes sense!
But emotionally and morally speaking there are no people more deserving of Russian citizenship and protection than people of Donbass.
Sounds quite racial, where you draw the borders with such policy? Russians are genetically much more diverse group as a people than Poles or Ukrainians, so at least Russian Imperialism could work with such direction. Still ethnic similarity is not a guarantee for similar beliefs or attitudes, or how do you explain 30 years war, or hundreds of years of strife between Catholics and Protestants. There was no large difference in blood between various German principalities, or between Dutch and Flemish, or between Huguenots and French Catholics. Blood alone is not strong enough bond to keep communities together. Who else fought as much between themselves as ancient Hellenes in their greatest glory?
But what then if not blood can ensure the cohesion, survival and continuity of peoples? Answer lies in a good choice of a religion….
Yes cars are surprisingly expensive in Russia, because of import tariffs I think? I’m not sure but I believe that Russia is trying to protect local car industry with them, but who wants to drive with Lada? Except Lada Niva, they are trash. Still it’s a strategic investment to have a local auto industry, so to have such policy is quite understandable.
Someone here said that TF is Hindu, is that true TF? It would be a pleasant surprise to have you in Dharmic gang.
I have said many times on this site that I am “not a nationalist.” However, that certainly doesn’t mean that I am a “one-worlder” or a “humanist” or that I am unconcerned about how closely related I am to other humans (or groups of humans). On the contrary, this is a question I am extremely concerned with, and it’s precisely the sort of considerations you have outlined above that I mull over in trying to reach a satisfactory answer.
My shorthand term for this project is “racialism,” because even though racial likeness, in and of itself, is by no means sufficient for me to feel close to someone, it’s nevertheless indispensable to true feelings of closeness. I also like it because it clearly and unambiguously distinguishes my leanings from mainstream conservatism – in which race is not supposed to count at all – despite my sharing many concerns with mainstream conservatives.
On the other hand, I’m not all together comfortable with “racialism,” because I feel it brings me uncomfortably close to Nazi types, who obsess over race far more intensely than I do. For instance, they tend towards eliminating as many people from racial inclusion as is feasible, whereas I tend towards including as many people as is feasible (ie while still retaining a basic racial likeness). They tend to be racial purists (extremely concerned over even microscopic, visually undetectable bits of alien racial ancestry), whereas I prefer a “ball park,” close-enough-is-good-enough kind of standard. They are “micro-racialists”; I am a “macro-racialist.”
Probably the most important distinction between these two views of racialism is that the Nazi types tend to feel just as negatively towards people who fail to make the racial grade for inclusion by a small degree as they do towards people who fail to make the grade by a vast degree. (Eg Sicilian or Nigerian, to them it’s all the same worthless shit.) In contrast, I feel much more positively towards people who differ from me only slightly than I do towards people who differ from me greatly. (Eg an Arab or a Turk, I may not always see them as racially close enough to me, but it’s much more the cultural difference I take exception to than the racial difference; with a Nigerian, I don’t even bother considering the cultural differences because the racial difference is already off-putting enough.)
When it comes to neighboring nations, who share vast amounts of racial and cultural similarities with me, there’s no question at all that I prefer to find reasons to feel close to them than to find reasons to distance myself from them or to hate them.
I agree with you that what we think of today as “nations” are of a fairly recent vintage, and that much of their self-conception has been deliberately manufactured. In this, I follow Victor Roudometoff’s outline of this process:
I think it would be instructive for us if AK were to indicate which, if any, of these steps his own Russian nationalism incorporates. But since you already asked him to define what Russian nationalism means to him and he preferred to dodge it with a cheap debating point, I doubt we’ll get an answer, so we’ll just have to speculate.
(1) I doubt he has any deep-seated interest in any origins project, unless it can be used to prove that Russians are older than Ukrainians and that the latter are thus “fake and gay.”
(2) I doubt he has any interest in proving that there is something unique or real about “the Russian soul,” and that it has remained essentially unchanged throughout history, though I think he would – however reluctantly – feel it’s important to establish some kind of continuity in Russian identity throughout the ages, to deny that Russians ever have or ever could have seen themselves as anything but Russians, because otherwise it would open the door to Belarusians or Ukrainians defining themselves out of Russianness.
(3) He does seem keen to identify “historical enemies” – Latvians figure prominently here – and to nurse grudges against them.
(4) He doesn’t seem at all interested in using history to establish what it means to be Russian, to define a Russian “national life purpose,” or anything of this sort, which he probably – and if so, correctly – sees as veering into fascism.
Overall, he seems to be more of a state nationalist than an ethnic nationalist. That is, he is interested in justifying Russia’s hold on its present territories as well as its former territories, as well as in reincorporating those former territories into Russia, regardless of whether those territories contain self-identified Russians or not. Any views he advances on Russian nationality or Russian ethnicity or Russian culture can be expected to be colored by, or shaped by, this state expansionist imperative.
In Hungary in the 1980s we drank tap water all the time.
btw, what’s the deal with kinda surge of virus now in Hungary, despite having both RF and China vaccines? Are those faster spreading variants responsible for that or something else?
The “narcissism of small differences” is nice-sounding but ultimately fatuous. When people of these nations encounter each other in diaspora communities, the differences don’t change, but the behavior of these people towards each other often does. Typically, they are far friendlier to each other than would be predicted by the narcissism of small differences hypothesis.
I am not even talking about a cucky ‘anti-racist’ types either; I have seen plenty of examples of hardcore Serbian and Albanian nationalists preferring to befriend each other than to befriend, I don’t know, whatever else is on offer. How could this happen if they were under the sway of the narcissism of small differences? It seems to me that these small differences are brining these people closer rather than pushing them apart.
Of course, back in the home countries, these people really do hate each other, and would probably prefer to beat each other up than befriend each other. But I think the reason for that has more to do with the fact that their nations, by being located next to each other for so long, have had more opportunities to war on and mistreat each other, and to pass on the bad blood for generation after generation, than it has to do with any presumed “narcissism.”
Sadly, you can’t. But just as sadly, nationalists are wont to characterize any steps to heal old wounds or to bridge divides as naive attempts to “wish away” ancient hatreds, doomed to fail, as all impossible tasks are. Personally, I find it hard to escape the impression that nationalists simply aren’t interested in ending ancient hatreds; they prefer to nurse them and even revel in them.
Good stuff, now we are talking shop. I’ll go in chronological order,
Xianbei was one of the Five Barbarians, after the fall of Qin/Han/Jin (First Empire) they would overrun northern China by 5th CE. Later they would become found the partially sinicized Northern Wei, and mixed with Hans to found fully sinicized Sui/Tang dynasties 7th CE (Second Empire)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianbei#Sinicization_and_assimilation
And some did not sinicize and likely became ancestors to Mongols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianbei#Language
Gokturks were conquered by the Tang, 7th CE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks#Conquest_by_the_Tang
And one of their kins, Shatuo, would go on to found sinicized dynasties that took part in the politics of Central Plains, 10th CE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatuo#Five_Dynasties
Tanguts used a Hanzi-based script and also founded a sinicized dynasty, Western Xia 11th CE. Unfortunately they are gone because a martial Buddhist Tibetic people in the Gansu corridor seems really cool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangut_people#Appearance
Khitan Liao Dynasty 10th CE were also heavily sinicized when they fell to the still unsinicized Jurchens. So some fled west to form the Western Liao while some served Jin. After Mongol conquest of Jin, one of member of Liao imperial clan would become the Great Khan’s key advisors, Yelü Chucai, 13th CE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yel%C3%BC_Chucai
At the time of Mongol Conquest of Jin Dynasty 13th CE Jurchens are already heavily sinicized, furthermore,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_people#Origins_and_early_history
So some Jurchens fully sinicized while others remained „wild“, and would mix with Hans and Koreans to become the Jianzhou Jurchen, later to become Manchus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurchen_people
Nurhachi would later come to consolidate/lead this group 17th CE. Whereas Jurchens used a Hanzi based script, Manchus used Mongolian (initially Aramaic based) script.
One thing about makes Manchu assimilation touchy is the imperial clan is seen as having colluded with the Japanese in the founding of Manchukuo.
Lastly the Mongols, who obviously hardly at all sinicized. But Yongle Emperor 14th CE was reputedly half-Mongol from maternal line, which is probably why he is one the most ever fearsome emperors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongle_Emperor#Youth
This says a lot considering the Mings are always considered legitimately Han Chinese, but are actually heavily Inner Asian influenced.
Please let’s not do the North vs. Southern Chinese debate, there are terabytes of shitpoasts in Sinosphere spilled over this. I used the term „feral“ in jest, there are obvious downsides to cultivation like soft gheyness. You guys are welcome to not assimilate otherwise there wouldn’t be so many Mongol Yokozunas
Brezhnev was not stupid and he was a more capable leader than people usually believe.
A big weakness of the Soviet system was that a leader usually needed three to five years to stabilize his rule (and he obviously avoided any major policy changes during that period), because he was nominally only a bureaucrat (“general secretary” or “first secretary”) and not even a real political leader. Shortly after Brezhnev stabilized his rule (it took him pretty long, because he started out as the most junior member of the Politburo), he had a stroke, after which he lost his capacity to work, and he was just healthy enough to keep his power and outmaneuver potential rivals (another weakness of the Soviet system was that the party leader had no fixed terms and could be removed any time, creating the need to constantly scheme to avoid being replaced, leaving no energy to actually govern), but this didn’t leave much energy to actually engage in far reaching policy changes.
Also, arguably it was very difficult to reform the Soviet economy, when Gorbachev tried it in 1987 (after some very limited political reforms), he caused a severe economic crisis (and couldn’t undo the changes and the resulting erosion of the central control over the economy), and this was the biggest reason he drifted towards further political reform (which then destroyed the USSR altogether).
http://rusautonews.com/2021/03/04/russian-car-market-has-increased-by-1-in-february-2021/
It was the richest region because it provided two sources of hard cash on international markets: coal, and steel. Otherwise, it had the highest or close to highest crime rate, HIV rate, lowest fertility rate in Ukraine and in the Slavic world. An analogy would be, say, annexing a dysfunctional but oil-rich region of Africa. A basketcase, but one providing hard currency.
No I meant the opposite. Perhaps you miswrote or I misread which side of the family these people were coming from.
Most of the northern Russian ones look more like Finns than like Slavs. The second one from the right looks a little Ukrainian.
Thanks. Just to clear things up:
I am not interested in “filtering my bazaar” – what a noxious phrase, as if one is talking to some double-dealing Azeri carpet seller. I would tell anybody demanding that of me to go to hell (and have).
FWIW, when I say you live in an emigrant time bubble, this is not to insult you but because this describes reality in my frank opinion. This is yet another example. That is not how Russia in general works these days, and it is most certainly not how Moscow works.
The main Nazi Gypsies (as Nesterov memorably termed them) on Twitter unsuccessfully demanding an apology from me literally consisted of:
(1) A Russo-Ukrainian/American former Daily Stormer writer who repatriated to SPB and now runs this cringe shit: https://pravcheloveka.net/
(2) An Armenian in France.
(3) An obese hookah lounge owner in SPB.
(So, out of three people, a Caucasoid who doesn’t even live in Russia, and a Nazi who grew up in the US and has devoted the past few years of his life to spreading Anglin’s memes about “putting women in cages” and the like to his cult of… a few dozen adolescent Twitter followers).
They run a “Inquisition” that compiles lists of “xenos” and “heretics” in a very cringe wh40k larp which now consists of something like a 1/3 of all active nationalists on Twitter: https://twitter.com/inquisition_hq/status/1291791834432393223
I hardly ever apologize (there are good reasons for it) and was certainly not going to start with these freaks.
Okay we both were half right, those steppe people who lived in China proper got assimilated, but those who stayed North of the wall, did not. Quite simple.
But Vietnamese and Koreans used Hanzi script and had sinicized dynasties, still that does not prove that they were assimilated by Han.
Khitans are Mongolic people, so no wonder if they had good relations with them.
It’s a shame, it’s a huge shame without comparison in the history of dynasties, even Chongzhen’s suicide and the end of Ming was not so shameful as the deeds of Puyi were, he utterly tarnished the good name of Qing.
I didn’t know that Yongle was half Mongolian, interesting and it partially explains why he was so supportive towards Tibetan Buddhism. In my opinion Yongle was one the greatest men of whole Chinese history, he was a good and ambitious ruler, and a genuinely Buddhist man. I truly pray that one day China or Russia would be blessed with such a fine ruler as Emperor Yongle.
https://www.asianart.com/articles/yongle/index.html
As you wish, but the differences in mentality between North and South is greater than the difference between Italian and German, Southerners can’t even drink…
And how does the typical Slav look like? Not like Bulgarians I think? Who are surprisingly dark, but who still are descended from the first Slavs known to history.
Haven’t you ever felt that you’ve wronged somebody, either intentionally or not? Being impervious to the process of forgiveness, either to somebody else or having somebody forgive you, is to live within a real “hardass” bubble, IMHO?
There are many kinds of Nazis IMO, so it’s not even possible to generalize:
(1) There are the OG Nazis – I like to call them NSDAPists to accentuate the point – who are (were) Germanic supremacists, ruthlessly focused on maximization of German living space and world power.
(2) There are the much lower IQ modern WNs, who ahistorically believe Nazism to have been a White International, and embrace a loser’s ideology to helpfully signal to TPTB that they should be repressed (except insofar as they can fulfill a role as useful idiots, as they do in e.g. Ukraine).
(3) Probably bottom of the rung in this respect are the various Le 56% Face Nazis.
(4) There are /pol/ type “ironic Nazi” shitlords. These are at least brighter and much more entertaining than (2).
(5) Then I suppose one might have “practical Nazis” who adopt some aspects of Nazi policy wrt their own country while taking care not to associate it themselves with its toxic PR. Unlike (2) or (3), they are much more results focused.
By ethnic Ukraine you mean NOT the Slovaks, Poles or Hungarians living in the far west of the Ukraine and NOT the Crimean Tatars? (Well, Crimea is part of Russia, but I’m trying to understand what you mean by ethnic Ukraine. Thanks 🙂
It is OK and proper to apologize when you have truly wronged somebody. I try not to do that, so situations in which it is ethically incumbent upon me to do so are rare (even if I say so myself).
SJWs and Nazi Gypsies whining on the Internet don’t quality.
I have written about those things before so I don’t feel know why it is incumbent upon me to repeat them.
I understand. In my case, I’ve found that as I’ve gotten older I am less tempted to try and draw rigid lines as to who is more correct in any sort of an argument. I remember as a teenager, where one is probably most resistant to letting things go, I was amazed at how easily my father would lose the high ground in an argument with my mother, when I knew that his opinion was the most correct. I’m talking about factual things here, not matters of opinion. He would smile and tell me that Mom is always right in such matters, and thus avoid a posible argument. I understand him better now that I’m older (life’s too short to argue about the degree of correctness is a disagreement). 🙂
As has been repeatedly stated, the Slavs are a language group whose representatives are divided into several genetic clusters. All of them are equally Slavs. Similarly, Finno-speaking ethnic groups have different origins and different appearance.
Here is a typical Slav from Samara. Do you think he looks more like a Slav or a Finn?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJUvtfVUwAAk6Yv.png
You might be right as to most of those regions. But there continues to be substantial support among Scotland’s citizens for secession from the “UK” and to an apparently lesser extent among the Welsh.
As for the other commenter’s suggestion that each of the colored areas be an independent “democratic” country, let’s imagine the likeliest outcome of that in the London of 2050: sharia “law” imposed on the minority by the emerging Islamist majority. Wonder if the other commenter would be alright with that.
Well, at least an independent Muslim-controlled London might aggressively remove the pernicious perverse influence of homosexuals and “transgenders” from their schools, “pop culture”, and society. Would they also end the big banks and financiers’ practices of usury and speculation?
Фильтровать базар надо по понятиям, иначе можно попутать рамсы и закончить свои понты обиженным фраером у душистой параши.
That’s right from the 90ies, the spirit of that era channelled through my humble person, addressing the future generations. Tesak should have listened to this wise advice, OTOH he did not have a useful second citizenship to escape to the fake and gay Western freedom.
In any case: за одного битого двух небитых дают…
Love to see our beautiful cousins, the Ukrainian and Russian ladies. But they shouldn’t be in combat roles, much less prepared and indoctrinated to kill their fellow Rus brethren on either artificial “side.”
He was talking about apologizing for expressing “insulting” or “insensitive” political opinions. I agree that it’s a bad idea to apologize for these – even if you sincerely feel that you went too far.
On the topic of going too far, I obviously went “too far” in my last exchange with you, and it’s something I feel bad about, especially since you responded calmly and diplomatically, which only made me feel worse. In real life, I would have no problem apologizing for something like that. In fact, I apologize all the time for causing people far less inconvenience than calling them “utter fucking idiots.”
On the internet though, damn, it’s actually quite hard to apologize. It’s surprisingly difficult to even write this. So here: I’M SORRY, OKAY! HAPPY?
Don’t worry, they won’t kill anyone. These girls are sent to military schools by their families to save money and living space. Some of them will leave the military service as soon as they can, while others will occupy various small bureaucratic positions in the army. At 99%, these girls in military uniforms are just a useless burden for the army
He looks like a typical Indo-European. Which is absolutely expected from a typical Slav. Of course the Slav population is now admixed with the Ugric populations in the North and the the Vlakh (Celtic Thracian) populations in the South. Also both Russians and Ukrainians have some Turkic admixture, while the Ukrainians have some Circassian admixture, that’s how the Cossacks have been described in the early Muscovite sources and that’s how the town of Черкассы got its name.
Around half of the male Russian and Ukrainian Slavs have the Y haplogroup R1a which is a marker for the Corded Ware Culture descended people. This proportion is higher (reaching close to 80%) in some old Golden Ring Russian towns. IIRC in Suzdal in the early 2000ies it was around 75% of the male population.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/7c/41/607c41205c1e10c46a2611e3d5e53d47.jpg
A modern reconstruction of their physical appearance. Notice the fellow above is wearing neat vintage лапти shoes.
Bulgarians, Serbs and Macedonians are Slavic-speaking Balkanoids, cousins of Albanians. They are of approximately only 25% Slavic descent. The 19th century Russian conservative Leontiev spent a few years as a diplomat down there, he observed that Bulgarians were in essence an exotic type of Greek peasant. Eastern Slavs, Western Slavs, and Slovenians are Slavic peoples both linguistically and by descent. Croats are about half-Slavic. The others in the Balkans are locals who got Slaviczed.
Hungarians probably have more Slavic descent than do Bulgarians.
Yes, this resemblance of the worker from Samara to Dr. House made the photo famous. But if you forget about this similarity this is a typical resident of Samara. I don’t know if it’s a Finn or a Slav – only the AP can tell these things apart
Or here is a photo of two gopnik-one from London (I think from a Guy Ricci movie) and the other from Moscow.
https://c.radikal.ru/c25/2103/73/299f6f7c5f9b.png
Does the Moscow gopnik look like a Finn or a Slav? and the London gopnik – is he also a Finn or a Slav?
Is this a reference to a fabled and long promised relation from polish trip? I was afraid we are not going to see it this side of Singularity.
I thought Hugh Laurie was an Angl*man.
I think the Russian gopnik is probably an Udmurt.
https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78897000/jpg/_78897880_redhair-festival624.jpg
They are with the Irish the populations who have the highest proportion of red heads.
This is a convenient idea for Slavic-speaking peoples who are not of actual Slavic descent.
Would you therefore consider Slavic-speaking Kazakhs and Bashkirs to be Slavs also, just belonging to their own genetic cluster?
I had a similar, powerful impression when I visited Poland from Russia. I went to the famous cathedral in Krakow, the people going there and praying (particularly the grandmothers, but not only them) were identical to ones I saw in Moscow’s monasteries and churches. Same soul, different external manifestations.
I apologize for not replying to anyone – I’ve been a bit busy with working and all free time has been utilized for snarky shitpoasting and acquiring Chainlink in order to support memers of the world everywhere.
But I believe that the specific transhumanism trope that Karlin has is similar to the one that I also picked up by influence from Silicon Valley(although of course, I can’t speak for him), which was a kind of semi-religious culture that was widespread in technology companies, signified in part by “software will eat the world.” It is from a place of genuine amazement and beauty – for me, symbolized when I personally was able to automate a process that once took two or three people into a spreadsheet program that executed it overnight, complete with its prophets like Linus and outriders in the Open Source community, its reach into the human biology with awareness of the metrics of precise measure like IQ, executive control, etc(which would spawn the nootropic concept) and with its inspiration from sources like Deus Ex which ultimately took a very gnostic, almost spiritual view of “exceeding oneself.”(I linked a trailer, and the direct reference to the Renaissance of knowledge of humanity, challenging the skies, and realization through “forbidden” corpse studies is obvious). It was a culture, and at times, literally a cult – people in companies like Google worked together, took their kids to company-held day cares, and spent their weekends together; the culture and the company encompassed their entire existence.
It was at times, a truly beautiful thing.
So no, I don’t actually think that his transhumanism was similar to yours.
Perhaps a substantially lower percentage of US Hispanic men attended college than nonHispanic whites and asians. That means much less opportunity for concentrated indoctrination.
“And by ‘we’, I mean your children.”
Normal human life is a “pandemic (sic)-spreading vector.” Live it anyway.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1502317/
My personal take on transhumanism was heavily influenced by Russian Cosmism and the Shaper ideology in the Bruce Sterling’s Schizmatrix. It was rooted in the life’s evolution towards the Noosphere described by Vernadskyi. It was also connected to the Theillard De Chardin’s Omega Point concept. It was a biology-focused type of transhumanism with a strong collectivist ethos.
That was some 30 years before TALENs, CRISPR and deep learning bioinformatics made genetic optimization possible.
It was indeed a completely different type of transhumanism than the one you describe. For me “the software eating up the world” would be the ultimate failure of the human mind and the biological evolution as a whole.
Ted Kaczynski has warned us that if left unchecked, the Technosphere would end up enslaving us completely. It is unfortunately today a distinct possibility. I believe that the Mechanicist types would end up “immanentizing the Eschaton” and screwing us all up for ever in an AI controlled dystopia in which the AI would play the role described as the “False Prophet ” in the Apocalypse of John.
Of course the entity behind the AI in this scenario would not be some dumb program, or algorithm, but something akin to Giger’s artwork. Giger was a visionary.
This is all of course very reactionary and obscurantist. I admit regretting that out ancestors have killed that first mammoth…
We also become wiser as we age. I still sometimes get the urge to punch people in the face, but now I usually refrain from acting upon the impulse. And Mr Hack is right, as Hwaja Nasruddin has famously said : “The one who argues with his wife diminishes his longevity “. Happy wife – happy life…
The Hungarians lived in a thin strip on the Hungarian border. There is no measurable Slovak population.
The number of Poles is small and scattered; there aren’t any Polish enclaves in Ukraine:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Polish_minority_in_Ukraine_2001.PNG
Speaking of the Schizmatrix novels:
http://journal.finfar.org/articles/schismatrix-and-the-posthuman-hyper-embodied-representation/
That is directly related to the type of transhumanism I self-identified in the mid to late 90ies. I read Schizmatrix in 1994 it was an extremely powerful experience. I have read Russian Cosmists in 1992 or 1993 and was aware of Chardin’s and Vernadsky’s work since my late teenage years. I immediately understood that what Sterling described in his extremely talented novel was the American take on the same theories.
For me it had to be a natural consequence and continuation of human biological evolution. The machines were just tools. They should have no power assigned to them whatsoever.
Later on, by the end 90ies, I learned of Hugo de Garis take on the évoluer of AI, his Artilects and his misappropriation of the word Cosmism. I was actually quite appalled by his way of thinking. When I understood that Western transhumanism was entirely Mechanicist (probably after reading Kurzweil) I have come to the conclusion that I wanted nothing of it. I believe that it is a very dangerous doctrine, which might cause considerable harm to all sentient beings on our planet.
I sincerely hope that Mechanicist transhumanists will fail and/or that some biological realism will prevail among them. Otherwise, we are up for a lot of unpleasantness.
Not Hugh Laurie in the photo, but a worker from Samara. Here they are in comparison
https://s.fishki.net/upload/users/2015/06/09/911867/967c626f544e60b4aa0388cc5d85d56d.png
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1371194637856219136
LOL
As Mr. Land would say: why would human aspirations, hopes or opinions matter? If there is anything biological about this, capitalism was our speciation event. The force of technology will move forward – overwhelming , inhuman, and uncaring of our whims, and we shall merely be actors within its part.
It is best to be wise to this, and try to be at the head of the beast.
Kaczynski wrote that a man who relies upon a chess-advice software to always win at chess in a world of constant chess competitions is ultimately not a master of his tool, but a slave of it. This may have some truth, but it is still better not to be among the losers. As the Colder War reminds us:
It may be unpleasant in some fashion to be amongst the gears; but it is surely even worse to be splattered beneath the gears.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/virgin-primitivist-vs-chad-transhumanist/
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/virgin-primitivist-vs-chad-transhuman.png
I remember liking Charles Stross’ Accelerando, I didn’t read the Colder War. I think that among posthumanist SciFi writers Greg Egan was the one who went the further in his analysis of the posthuman evolution. I stopped reading transhumanist SciFi a decade ago so there might be more interesting authors today.
Now, going back to the topic we started to discuss : if there is truly an inescapable tendency towards the evolution of our current system into some inhuman meta or supramachine, then we should absolutely do our possible to try to avoid the worst possible outcome which is the destruction of human sapience (as opposed to just rational intelligence).
OTOH, there is still the possibility that all the qualities and abilities that we could one day develop as a species are already available as a potentiality in our own biological and psychological present-day nature. This is what I hope for: that a better understanding of our genetics, our metabolism, our CNS, a better grasp onto the nature of the consciousness itself will allow us to become better humans.
This biological humanist transhumanism, the Shaper type (if we use Bruce Sterling’s terminology) might be indeed good for our species.
I honestly don’t remember what went wrong in our discussion – there’s no need to rehash it now. I don’t really feel that I have too many disagreements with most commentators here. I’ve never thought of you as any sort of “pain in the a__ adversary” and remember that most of your opinions are quite reasonable. Then there’s that “Gerard” formerly known as “Geraldina”. I enjoy trolling him, for his quite outlandish Ukrainophobic sentiments don’t really deserve any better.
In the long run, all technology will converge to a biological or simulated biological process. Existing production processes are far too fragile to be useful. I mean, there’s like a single advanced microchip lithography facility in the entire world, it’s in the Netherlands somewhere. If their janitor decides to air his dirty socks in the vacuum pumps, there goes your AI progress for a few years until their fab gets decontaminated.
Biology on the other hand can exponentially grow neutral networks (like human brains), quantum computers (like pigeon based navigation systems), and other advanced technology literally by eating fried chicken just about anywhere on the planet. Much more veraatile and robust process.
The future is Zerg.
Thank you for the map and info 🙂
But who / where do you mean, then, by “ethnic Ukraine”?
And the English, along with the Scots, and half of the Germans is German-speaking peoples who are not of actual Germanic descent?
Well, write to Britannica that the definition of the Slavs, Germanic peoples, etc. in this encyclopedia is wrong. But as long as the article in the Britannica has not changed, your ideas about language groups are funny and nothing more
I hope that we will have the choice to direct technological evolution in the direction that suits us best as a species. There is hopelessness in the narratives such as Nick Land’s accelerationism.
If we indeed drift in that direction, I would prefer having no complex technological civilization at all and doing our best to perfect ourselves as human beings only. It is possible that the likes of Dmitry Orlov are right and that this whole Technosphere would eventually collapse under its own complexity and fragility. If that happens, then perhaps it would not be that bad given the alternative of dehumanizing acceleration towards something we don’t even need as a species.
Sri Lanka has banned burqas and most Islamic schools/madrassas will be closed.
https://apnews.com/article/cabinets-national-security-islamic-state-group-sri-lanka-eb23fb57fd43ba306c4716b87de026fe
Just few weeks ago Sinhalas forced Muslims to cremate their dead, which is huge haraam in Islam.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-56205737
It’s time to remind Mlecchas of their proper place! Either they accept the rules of Dharmic majority or they should leave.
A Finno-Ugrian speaking man of Mansi decent.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJ2DxpWNwq-OktX76fiGtRx2qkHfxI7ht0jg&usqp.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTaMxF5XdfinNsbkK9zG-mSmgggWqnCWtV6w&usqp.jpg
Note the pale blue eyes.
I wouldn’t stress too much about transhumanism, pain is pain, anger is anger, no matter if we have carbon or silicone based bodies. Anyway transhumanism till now has just been lots of noise out of nothing, speculation and extrapolation, or has anyone yet achieved results in artificial modification of one’s inner mental faculties? Does anyone even have a clear plan for realising such goals?
The problem was likely that Ukraine was never actually going to agree to the Kremlin’s desired federalization terms. After all, giving the Donbass veto power over joining the E.U. and NATO is as stupid as giving Texas veto power over joining any economic unions or military alliances. U.S. states simply don’t have that kind of power–and why exactly should they, unless they actually become independent countries?
You might be interested in this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Slavs#Middle_Ages
“Ibn al-Faqih described two kinds of South Slavic people, the first of swarthy complexion and dark hair, living near the Adriatic coast, and the other as light, living in the hinterland.”
Are the second kind Slovenes and northern Croats?
Why not Slavic-speaking East Asians (especially Koreans) as well?
I have read somewhere that VVP’s ancestors were of Tver’ Karelian descent. And if I am not mistaken the Patriarch Kirill is also descended from some Ugric background.
The core Ukrainian ethnic heartland roughly corresponds to the oblasts that voted for Tymoshenko in 2010 (minus that sliver of land populated by Hungarians in the extreme west). From here, the Ukrainians settled south where they mixed with Russians and some others along the Black Sea coast and east into the Kharkiv region. They are the dominant population those areas, but not monolithically so as they are in the core territory. From here they also moved southwest where they mixed with Russians and contributed to the settling of Donbas, although they are outnumbered there. The dark green area around Kiev and light green areas around Lviv were settled by Ukrainians (at that time called Rusyns, Rusnaks, or Little Russians) in the 17th century. This the the ethnic core homeland:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Polish_Lithuanian_Ruthenian_Commonwealth_1658_historical_map.jpg
Could be. Or they could be a Slavic settler population who at the time were not yet absorbed genetically by the natives. Some Serb here wrote that there are some small regions in Serbia where the population remains more Slavic than the surrounding ones; overall Serbs are only about 25% Slavic by descent.
What I worry about is not human augmentation, but humans allowing for appearing of “technological entity” that they will not be able to control. This basically comes to the same topic as the malevolent AGI mentioned by AK in his thread about the existential risks. Of course, given my spiritual inclinations, I do not think we can create consciousness, but we can allow for “something ” to materialize. As Bodhidharma has warned us: ” demons have the power of manifestation “. We should be very careful.
English are about half of German descent. Irish and Scots are considered to be Celtic not Germanic people.
Yes, English is a Germanic language, spoken by many non-Germanic peoples such as most Irish, Jamaicans, etc. And Serbia is a Slavic language spoken by a people who are of only about 25% Slavic ancestry.
But you did not answer my question: do you consider Kazakhs who speak only Russian to be a type of Slav, just like Poles, Russians, etc. because language is the only determinant of whether one is a Slav or not?
Syria after one decade of (civil) war.
https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1371518663585579008
Loyalty is an important issue. If the 200 million includes 40 million people of questionable loyalty (perhaps 20 million outright hostile), then it’s worse than 150 million people who are all (or almost all) loyal to the project.
Yes, whatever we create will be a mere simulation. It can be a very sophisticated one, with information-processing capabilities that far exceed ours, but it will still be as dumb and unconscious as a wind-up toy. How sad if humans self-destruct by creating such a thing that “chooses” to eliminate organic life.
OTOH if by playing with genetic codes one creates people with 200 IQs with the ability to accumulate wisdom over many centuries due to enhanced life span – these will still be human (just as children, or people with cognitive disabilities, are very much human). Although there are dangers there also.
Faster spreading and probably more dangerous. Apparently now lots of young people and even children in hospitals. The healthcare system is on the verge of collapse.
I certainly know of a number of Croats having Serb buddies. I know of Serbian women befriending Albanian women. Albanian-Serb (male) friendship is something I haven’t encountered, but I can imagine it. Actually now I seem to vaguely remember the husbands of an Albanian and a Serbian woman talking to each other in a friendly manner, but I’m not sure how much they even knew each other. Their wives were best girlfriends. (But that’s often not very deep, women being women and all that.)
Vietnam, Korea, Japan are Sinitic-derived cultures (just so no one gets on my goat, this is same as saying Tibet is a Indic-derived culture); who are never going to assimilate for simple geographical reasons.
Whereas Liao, Jin, Yuan and Qing each ruled over large swathes of Central Plain Hans. It was never their plan to sinicize. But to legitimatize their rule, they had to 1) officialize Chinese language and script, 2) at least partially adopt Confucian meritocratic bureaucracy. If they do this they get 1) retainers who will serve loyally to death even against other Hans; 2) naval/siege technical expertise for terrains where they don’t have an advantage. If they don’t some of those limp-wristed scholars will turn into determined martyrs.
But over time they inevitable indulge in concubines and composing literature and lost their martial edge. That goes for Liao and Jin. The Yuan sensed this and when the war against Ming wasn’t going well instead of going for a final Vernichtungsschlacht (battle of annihilation) they simply retreated to the steppes to preserve their culture. The Manchus knew this as well so they tried as hard as possible to slow the process.
Back to Han Nationalism, one of their main take is 元清非中国论 Thesis that Yuan and Qing are not truly Chinese. Actually among the first one to hawk this were Japs, who argued China has accepted conquerors before, so why not another one.
But this is being debunked now by PRC historians with arguments that I think is pretty compelling. The Confucian scholars came to agreement that non-Hans can be accepted as legitimate dynastic rulers so long as they accept the two above-stated conditions (not the case for Japs). Also, Yuan is much more sinicized than previously thought, for example the 4-caste system turned out to be fake news https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_dynasty#Social_classes . And many of the later battles were basically Han vs. Han https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yamen
However, one aspect of accepting Yuan is acknowledging that China had once tried to invade Japan.
I find this repellent as well, per AK’s thesis re teetotaling and trustworthiness. But this is not so much a North-South thing as much as Blue (overseas/coastal) vs. Yellow (interior/Eurasia) thing. Go to any CCP banquets you’ll get wasted on baijiu, regardless of region (video below on baijiu for our vodka drinking friends). Clearly with OBOR, PRC is pivoting towards Yellow China.
I took the opportunity to re-read A Colder War, which I recall quite enjoying in the Lovecraft genre some way back. Alas, I found it has aged badly. A somewhat too jewy tang to it along with many, many eyerolling political pinpricks from a certain Charles Strauss. Perhaps reading Unz for too long has by now mostly ruined me as a recipient of approved normie tales.
What makes Hispanics such big Holocaust deniers? What exactly have Jews ever actually done to them?
If the U.S. still wants regime change in Syria, it should support the Syrian Kurds, no?
They probably just care less about European history.
In hindsight, the Russian Empire’s mistake was not settling the Wild Fields with Great Russians to a much greater extent, no? After all, if the Wild Fields would have primarily had a Great Russian as opposed to a Little Russian/Ukrainian population, then they would have remained solidly pro-Russian even nowadays, no?
Sadly, I think that’s more of a prophylactic measure. I don’t think Twitter ever had much reach into Russian society, and this will hopefully extend that.
But it does very little immediate damage to Twitter’s interests. Unfortunately.
Kurds are a part of Marxist Leninist militia and flying all those red star flags next to US flag is awkward for photo ops.
If Kurds start making offensive gains against Syrian government, Turkey will intervene and will start murdering everyone including US soldiers, it is that big of a deal to them.
And then there is this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cable-spain-russian-mafia
US accuses Torshin (Russian government official) of running guns to the Kurds via underground channels.
If that’s the case, it would be easier for US government to simply declare Maria Butina to be the President of Syria and save itself from a lot of hassle. Turks won’t mind, at least.
That isn’t a Russian. That’s Hugh Laurie.
Nice try.
People in Germany East of Magdeburg are probably more Slav than German by blood. “Leipzig” and “Berlin” both have Slavic etymologies.
This isn’t entirely true. The Kurds doesn’t have any permanent alliances. United States has a presence in Syrian Kurdish regions and use it to pressure Turkey. But United States aren’t allies with the Kurds as they’ve been frequently allowed Turkey to strike Kurdish militia. In regards to Assad the Kurds are cautious but they’ve mostly worked together against common enemies.
I wonder if they even sold normal bottled water in the Eastern Bloc. I’d guess not, but if they did, it probably wasn’t cheap.
I think the tap water definition works well enough for China now, with its capitalist blend. I don’t know how well it works for most communist countries retroactively. But one could probably play around with it to make it work more reliably. Like fluoridation – they might be getting rid of this in the US! Or hot and cold coming out of one tap.
This (in the photo) is not Hugh Laurie, but a worker Alexey Koven from Samara (really similar to Hugh Laurie)
Never done any driving around Albuquerque, but from what I know of it, there’s a pleasing aspect to seeing a few trees, when a lot of people have a schema of NM being a desert wasteland.
Positivity rate of Corona tests (7 day rolling average):
Russia: 3.4%
Ukraine: 27.5%
Poland: 26.4%
Romania: 22.1%
Slovakia: 1.2%?
Czechia: 12.5%
UK: 0.5%
Western Europe seems to be around 5-10%
I’m pretty sure the number of tests influence the positivity rate a lot. More tests means testing more people with no/mild symptoms which means lower positivity rate.
Slovakia does an obscene amount of testing. UK also a lot of testing. Ukraine does very few tests. Russia is in the middle. Czechia does a lot of tests but still has 12.5% positivity rate so the situation is probably bad there.
In general it looks bad in Central Europe. Positivity rate has been increasing for a month. They had their first big wave around October/November/December and are already back to having another big one.
Plenty of fair complexioned Russian looking Serbs and Bulgarians.
To date, related DNA studies are incomplete.
The usual mythology. Here is a group portrait of the Serbs.
http://www.yapfiles.ru/files/30439/SRBIJA.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i417/1111/50/a6d9f1060793.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i419/1111/9b/491fc36cb1e5.jpg
If you write that this is the Ukrainian Carpathians, then the AP will be euphoric – here they are true Slavs! At the same time, he does not see obvious similarity between the dark-haired girls in military uniforms (whose photos he posted) with the population of the Balkans.
Among the Russian “nationalists” there is a mirror image of the AP’s views-that the fair-haired inhabitants of the north of Russia are the true Slavs, but all these gypsy-looking Ukrainian girls with black hair and eyes are Turks who speak the Slavic language by mistake.
Are you referring to his “missile gap” and the generalized jokes at Oliver North and Fawn Hill?
Pretty much everyone in the story comes off as a rather pitiful human being. Which is on par for Lovecraftian stories, I think. Dignity is a feeble comedy to the horror that is to come.
Its possible, but I’m not so certain.
It is true that engineered processes tend to have much more sensitive tolerances than biological processes, but they are usually more fit to purpose for the specific goal of their design: e.g. a car is much faster than a horse, even if a car can’t eat grass and requires a vast infrastructure to support it. Likewise is true of solar cells versus photosynthetic life:
That said, there are various reasons to believe that some sort of biological analogue may find use going forward, but nonetheless it will still be very different from history. Even the biological analogue of evolution, after all, produces descendant species that are ultimately vastly different from their ancestors and I’ve often likened the creation of AI, even if it replaces us in total, as the replacement of humanity by their children.
The United States is present in Syrian Kurdish regions to pressure Assad, and harass Iran-linked militias. Russia keeps Turkey from doing its worst in Syria. The United States is happy to have Turkey support Islamist rebels who fight Assad, provided that they don’t attack the United States, or Israel.
Making the UK the only true third world country.
For what it is worth, Mr. Karlin also prefers biosingularity. He also discusses its limitations, however.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/short-history-of-3rd-millennium/
For myself, I’ve fancied the thought that the liberation of the intellect from the confines of the soul is in some ways, perhaps the ultimate realization of Gnostic spirituality, and is not entirely without beauty: the shedding of the crystalis of the flesh, the exaltation of the mind to be set aflight and free into the immaculate digital universe.
And an eternal and literal Deus Ex Machina? Well, as is, we live in a world of much horror and terror, of madness and chaos, and where what is good is often punished and what is evil rewarded. In fact, I’d say usually so. It is quite intolerable. I’m not always sure what is the value of humanity anyway, beyond what we create.
Perhaps it is time for God to make His appearance. Perhaps all of human effort existed for the moment to bring about this divinity. That would be transcendent.
It would be beautiful.
So now you are posting fantasy maps?
But what else Ukraine is than a proof of the powers of the human imagination?
I hope the decision makers in Australia note that the US sees the current difficulties in the China Australia relationship as a golden opportunity for replacing Australia’s place in exports of various commodities to China
cue music “That’s what friends are for “
Sure, among other things.
True fault lies in communist drawn borders, Kuban was Ukrainian/Malorossian majority about hundred years ago, but now they are very patriotic towards Russia. If in 20s and 30s villagers of Kherson would have been inside of borders of RSFSR, and only taught Russian in schools, they would now be Russians.
Kuban was half-Russian in 1926, if I recall correctly. Kherson was much less Russian than that. Though if you could make Kherson half-Russian AND put it inside of the borders of the Russian SFSR, then you could indeed have the outcome that you want here.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ukrainian_in_Russian_Empire_1897.png
Though it’s not visible on this map, the area of modern Kherson oblast was just slightly more Malorussian than Kuban, but Kherson Governorate, or the area of modern Odessa oblast, Nikolayev and slice of modern Kherson oblast, was 53.9% Malorussian in 1897. If communists would have kept those areas as part of RSFSR, the (independent) Ukrainian national consciousness would now be marginal there.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F
“It’s interesting to read old letters from upper class people – I mean, like 150+ years old, not famous people. Makes one wonder at the profound impact that dysgenics may have already had, and shudder at the future trends.”
Present day upper class people have access to quicker forms of communication like email, SMS and phone calls. They have different expectations of their scriptural communications than the upper class had 150 years ago. Poeple then wrote more complex and covered more ground since letters were much rarer than any SMS or email. The usage of fancy words has also declined over time.
The BLM protests and Capitol Hill incident does suggest that the US have some Asabiyyah, don’t you think?
I cycle to and from places as often as possible and enjoy it greatly. I like cycling just the way it is and the one of the big positives for me, apart from the fresh air, exercise and convenience, is the lack of the kind of bs overregulation that’s made diving miserable. I do appreciate cycle infrastructure where it exists, but personally, I’d prefer it to remain a niche form of transport and office plankton to continue to think it’s dangerous so they don’t take it up in large numbers and ruin it. If you want to cycle in Moscow, buy a bike and ride it.
Were not many of the White Emigres who volunteered for Red Army service killed or persecuted soon after arriving in the Soviet Union?
Also i once read that there was a culture clash between the Harbin Russians who resettled in Russia, and the ‘Red Russians’, whom the Harbiners considered uncouth. Are you familiar with the experience of the White Emigres who resettled in USSR?
That’s just because of the city of Odessa island, much of Kherson province was fully Ukrianian.
No, Khersonsky Uyezd had only 55% of Malorossians. Other Uyezds of Kherson Governorate , except Aleksandriysky, had 1/3 to 2/3 of Malorossians.
The Russians in Kherson province were mostly concentrated in the city of Odessa. There were also many Jews in that city, and some Romanians, Bulgarians and Gagauz (Christian) Turkic people in the southern parts; the northern parts of the province were heavily Ukrainian.
You are right, mostly because of the city of Kherson on the southern edge of that Uyezd.
The southern and western parts of Kherson province were not Ukrainian and the northern parts were Ukrainian:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ukrainian_language_in_Kherson_Governorate,_1897.svg
It’s my understanding that an “aging” male, as far as testosterone production is concerned, starts to decline after the age of 18, and as I suspect that you’re probably past this age the question begs what supplements or procedures do you personally ascribe to in order to maintain your peak physicality in this matter? Taking ginseng alone probably wouldn’t be enough for you to manage keeping your harem of at least 4 wives completely satisfied in the bedroom, I would think?
It’s been way over a century since Ukrainians dropped the archaic ethnonym of “Malorussian” and even then many identified themselves as Rusyns, Ruthenians, Cossacks and other regional variants. I thought that you were stuck in a “red” time warp and not a Czarist one? 🙂
True, but very elaborate letter-writing etiquette existed simultaneously for decades after telegrams were invented. The web isn’t that old, and long distance phone calls used to be prohibitively expensive.
One thing that I think is missing is the desire to show good breeding. In Victorian times, letters often were sealed by using a family crest. Nowadays, a lot of class displays really seem to be political displays, without the manners. It is like the end of the aristocracy made people less secure and more susceptible to political fads.
There’s a theory that a decline in T in midlife helps create one kind of tranny. The one that was married to a woman and has kids and was never a sissy boy.
It is interesting to layer this phenomenon on society. We live during the trans insanity, when men are older than ever and probably have lower T than ever.
You conveniently forget how relatively little of urbanisation there was in the late 19th century Russia. City or town of Kherson had only 59 000 inhabitants in 1897, less than half were Velikorossy, but the Kherson Uyezd had a population of about half million people.
Somehow, in his amazing powers of applying psycho-analysis through internet research, Daniel Chieh was able to deduce that my father’s hesitancy to engage in useless argumentation with my mom as he got older, was due to his own decline in T? He must be an expert on the subject, so I’m anxious to hear from him as to how he manages to keep it all together after the age of 18? If perhaps he’s under 18, there’s no reason for him to reply. 🙂
The ultimate realization of the Gnostic spirituality is the spiritual transmutation of the soul itself. This purified and transformed soul is the Light itself and it is part of the Fullness itself. It returns towards the One and is reunited with the Source because it has the nature of the One.
The intellect removed from the soul (understood as the emotional component) becomes cold, reckless and ruthless. It leads to pure psychopathy. In Orthodox Christianity Satan is sometimes called “Умный Дух”. In Ch’an / Zen intellectualizing is frown upon, one of the Zen masters of old has even said that “knowledge without compassion is the demon’s lot”.
Intelligence without sapience is lost and will never attain Enlightenment, it will not acquire true salvific Wisdom and will dwell in a pathological illusion forever. It will keep toying with useless information and inventing grotesque experiments upon itself and others, the serial killers are an example of that.
If there’s no compassion, there cannot be true Wisdom. If there is no emotion, there cannot be empathy and compassion. If there is no emotional component, then it’s not worth it. The feeling that we have when we watch our children sleep and our loved ones age is the feeling one must develop towards all of Creation. We have to feel some pain to understand suffering, we need to feel yearning to move beyond our limits. Knowing is not enough.
Compassionate Wisdom is the way forward. We already have everything we need to develop this. It does not depend upon science, technology and social organization. We already have it as our fondamental nature’s potentiality, it is just hidden by wrong emotional and intellectual accretions. When it is not obscured, then it shines brightly.
Shortly before his Enlightenment, Great Master Xu Yun had a vision during an intense period of meditation. While sitting zazen during a calm night he suddenly became aware of everyone and everything inside and around the monastery for miles upon miles as if he saw them in a bright and penetrating light. That was one of the last manifestations of his obscured intellect. A couple of days later je was freed from even the remainder of illusions and doubts. He was simply being served tea by one of the monks when some boiling hot water splashed on his hand and his cup fell to the ground and shattered into pieces. As his cup fell and broke, his ego was also utterly destroyed.
An empty and broken ego is better than a full and strong one. Ego produces illusions and clings onto them. And digital universe is just an illusion. There is no freedom in that.
About 47%, versus 19% Ukrainian.
No, it was 587,000 including the city of Nikolaev (97,000 people – 66% Russian and only 8.5% Ukrainian). You get only 55% Ukrainian for the entire province when you include these two largely Russian cities.
These two cities and Odessa were Russian islands in a mostly Ukrainian sea.
More details:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Gub_Kherson_ethno_1897.jpg
I won’t go into the details of my Hermeticism, but obviously part of the realization of the nature of the Source was the understanding of purification from gross matter; there’s a reason why Newton was an ascetic and the usual image of the sorcerer was the same. To understand the mind of God and to identify is ultimately to see not only His compassion but also His wrath, and so one is to dispense both wrath and boon in appropriate measure.
Beyond that, it is easy to mistake weakness for “wisdom” or “compassion”. This comic is a beautiful example of this cope.
https://twitter.com/shenanigansen/status/930177304533147648
Of course, it means that it therefore optimizes for many more bike thieves who will be plenty happy to keep taking from any sap that allows it. And I believe that we’ve both known terrible people. I do not accept that “compassion” for whatever broken mechanism that stands in for their “soul” is the appropriate solution, unless that “compassion” involves compassionately removing them from existence as an example to others.
One of the most common coping mechanisms that many Chinese engaged in after the Opium War was that the Chinese were a “more peaceful people” and had not developed in the arts of warfare, especially biological warfare(since China had a fairly advanced horticultural tradition). It was probably nonsense but it really doesn’t matter if it was true or not; if it was, that was an nonadaptative belief that led to weakness.
And as they say: victory needs no justification. Defeat allows none.
With sufficient application of DMT and cannabinoids, I think that ultimately could rather easily conjure that in any subject willing or otherwise. The mind at present is not far from the body; the body can be controlled, and the mind is subject.
Its an important point: its easy to excuse weakness(or infirmity),etc as wisdom. The mistake in much of philosophy has been a confusion of limited optimization measures as some sort of universal truth, however.
As for the actual question, I don’t particularly do anything for testosterone but I do take dopa mucuna about 4 days a week for cognitive purposes. Evidence is that it also increases serum testosterone levels. The safest way to go about it is to just lift heavy weights, of course.
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/rewinding-clock
I’m quite young, but I do have an anti-aging protocol that I’m testing, mostly following David Sinclair as above but some of the metrics are highly subjective and difficult to measure. However, his sirtuin protocol has had overall pretty positive effects, excellent animal results and a number of human studies on a commercial variant(nicotinamide riboside).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=nicotinamide+riboside
I genuinely recommend looking into it.
Incidentally, if you’re curious and since you’re on his blog, you might want to check this out anyway:
https://akarlin.com/health/
Seems fairly up to date as of September 2020.
Perhaps not, but it does not mean that it cannot be experienced or that the self cannot be transfigured to rise. Malkuth is only part of the whole, after all.
https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/350/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/the_tree_of_life.jpg
I admit that I am a little traumatized by life, which may have led to some unusual opinions and interests. Its good to hear of your thoughts as well.
Yuri Andieevich Vorobyov, the governor of Moscow region has met with Putin. After the meeting it was announced that Vorobyov will present his candidature to the Moscow mayor’s office. Will Sobyanin leave his office and what would be his next job remains unknown.
Vorobyov is very close to Shoigu, has the backing of the Solovki and has very good relations with the elites of the Caucasus Republics, whom he understands perfectly because he lived and studied in North Ossetia.
A couple of months ago, I half-jockingly wrote that Vorobyov or Sobyanin might be the right person to replace VVP. One of the commentors replied that Sobyanin has no charisma, but would perhaps be a prime minister. Recently Mishustin has been criticized for the increased food prices and overall inflation. Perhaps Sobyanin would indeed be named prime minister after Mishustin, while Vorobyov would be announced as Putin’s successor after working some time as Moscow mayor (which should make him well known by all the RusFed population) .
https://mosreg.ru/upload/files/5/t/1080/5tcw25bVUq89NwmmA6fNOztEACz8VNhHFH4tn2uBFZQXA6BHe32aYxGJcJa3VUvtX7ld0umXIRUb62y4ipeb2Ab6iJExarSv.jpg
The plot thickens…
Sobyanin has been an incredibly good mayor. Thanks in large part to him it is probably the best very large city in the world.
Yes Moscow has improved a lot in the last decade. Piter has not improved as much. In the last decade of the USSR both towns were of comparable quality, perhaps Piter was even slightly better. At least I liked it more. Today Moscow is probably some 10 years ahead of Saint Petersburg in urban development.
Sobyanin has also did a good job as a Deputy Prime Minister and as the head of the President Administration. A very capable man.
AFAIK, though, a lot of the non-Ukrainians in Kherson Oblast weren’t actually Russians but instead Jews, Germans, et cetera.
Shanghai? Tokyo? Seoul?
Off-topic, but what do you think that Kiev’s present-day demographics would have been had it been made the capital of the Russian Empire and had the Russian Empire survived up to the present-day?
A strange question, but probably in the upper single digit millions (still huge, but smaller than Moscow in our timeline because not as centrally located). Because it would attract people from throughout the Empire it would be minority Ukrainian, maybe a third or so.
I don’t deny that the Qing were, in my opinion, rather prolific in their construction of temples.
Do you have source from this?
My understanding was quite the opposite, and that taking the Imperial exam and getting a qualifying but not getting a post was nonetheless considered an honorable way to make a living, since such unassigned individuals nonetheless paid some rate.
I’ll have to review more reading on this – I found a paper on this earlier, but I’m being blocked by a paywall. My own family was a Ming hereditary military family(with a 屯田) and at some point in the Qing also tested into the government offices as scholar officials, though afaik it was always the continuing ownership of land from where we held most of our fortunes until le Commies decided to intervene. I’m 60% Mongol, so there’s some interesting stories there, it would seem.
Re: Moscow: Please keep in mind that, without Russia’s extremely extensive demographic devastation during the 20th century, Moscow could have theoretically had as much as two times more people right now than it has in real life.
Anyway, would such demographics actually be enough for Russia to permanently keep Kiev in the long(er)-run? After all, Kiev is relatively close to Belarus, and without Communism, Russia should permanently hold onto Belarus.
Re: Moscow: Please keep in mind that, without Russia’s extremely extensive demographic devastation during the 20th century, Moscow could have theoretically had as much as two times more people right now than it has in real life.
Anyway, would such demographics actually be enough for Russia to permanently keep Kiev in the long(er)-run? After all, Kiev is relatively close to Belarus, and without Communism, Russia should permanently hold onto Belarus.
I disagree. Our sense of pain and anger is physiological, specific to the workings of our nervous system. You change this system, and you will not process the world in the same way. You cannot isolate one part of human(or any organism’s) physiology from another and pretend it can somehow function the same way. Similar ideas, like existence being consciousness, or brains in a vat, are also false. People who peddle these kinds of ideas are anti-life degenerates.
Nope. Transhumanism is just a fantasy. In terms of bringing about a transhumanist future, the inventor of the eyeglasses has done more than Silicon Valley ever has, and likely ever will.
Isn’t that the point though? “The force of technology will move forward – overwhelming , inhuman, and uncaring of our whims, and we shall merely be actors within its part.” In this quote, you’re talking about the ability to reproduce oneself. At that, biology is best. No technology has been developed, no idea has even been suggested for how an engineered system can beat biology at that task.
Transhumanism is like libertarianism, just replace “the market” with “technology.” Crazy people worshipping abstractions, and making extrapolations from short periods of progress.
The same stuff they do everywhere else.
Spanish language media is not monitored as closely as English language, so there is more freedom to express certain kinds of ideas. This state of affairs likely will not last for very long.
There is also a history of Nazi sympathy in some Latin American countries, partly as an expression of anti-Americanism. Maybe this legacy still has an effect.
https://twitter.com/c_deane/status/1371834146356613130
Interesting statistics on polarization. Before Trump presidents used to start out with 30-40% approval rating from people voting for the opposite party. But Trump started out with only 11% approval rating from Democrats and Biden with only 16% from Republicans. That’s a big shift.
I think Melanf was implying that a large part of English and Russian people externally have the same faces, which is true.
All Northern European people are more or less same appearance, and you see many people with the same faces across the different countries, whether you are in Ireland or Russia, External racial difference in Europe is far more obvious from North to South, rather than West to East.
Above 50° north, there are people with a lot of the same faces from as far West as Ireland, to the Far East of Khabarovsk – i.e. 7500 kilometres, with a large part of people having the same faces.
On the other hand, if you travel a few hundred kilometres from Northern France, to Northern Spain – there is already a significant racial difference when you visit Spain, and it’s really a noticeable that most people are a different nationality or race, when you cross from Northern Europe into Southern Europe.
Some South Slavic nationalities like Serbs look like the same people as South Western Italians, which is not mysterious, as nationalities like Illyrians didn’t disappear, but with the vicissitudes of history, have merged their identity and languages with Slavic languages in one region (Balkans), or Latin languages in another (e.g. Italy).
E.g. Serbs in Belgrade look exactly like stereotypical Italians from regions like Abruzzo:
And that superficial appearance matches the region’s historical peoples.
https://i.imgur.com/5Ksk8Xq.jpg
19th century philologists used language groups as the synonym for race, as languages does track the movement of ruling peoples, but nationalities in Europe are overall similar racially with their neighbours. Basques are most similar to their Spanish neighbours, despite a radically different language. A significant proportion of Hungarians look the same as Austrians, despite wildly different language families. Most of the Russian blood, is simply called “Baltic” in the DNA test.
Some important cities of modern Ukraine were also Romania or Poland until the Second World War.
For example, Bukovina was a heavily multinational region of Romania, where the main part of the region has been for centuries Romanians.
In some historically multinational regions of Ukraine, a lot of the Ukrainian population probably have more romantic blood of Romanians, Sephardic Jews, Greeks, Gypsies, Hungarians, Poles, Germans, etc. The appearance of the people looks like that:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-11-20/searching-for-doggerland-archaeology-palaeontology-scandinavia/11707174
What we call today the Nordic phenotype only makes sense under a very low light intensity climate. Probably North-Western Europe somewhere between England and Scandinavia.
Also:
https://q-mag.org/blood-red-flint-tools-souvenirs-of-doggerland.html
This region was the cradle of the Corded Ware Culture. That’s probably where the Nordic phenotype comes from in all the European nations.
The early Bell Beaker folks which replaced the CWC were as swarthy as the southern Spaniards are nowadays.
WYB?
Not only Kuban. The Volga side of the Don river valley also had many Little Russian speaking villages and a few Mordavians surrounded by newly (200 years) arrived Great Russian settlers.
I have to say that High Intensity Interval Training, most particulalry sprinting has a substantial on my T levels. Cardio vascular exercise almost none.
Is this really true?
In contrast to most red-haired people, blond people can tan to be quite dark (at least in my view). And did not blond hair originate among the Ancient North Eurasians? Oldest known trace is from Siberia. I believe near Lake Baikal, which is pretty far east.
My two cents on whether the Irish were in Greenland:
The Vikings said that, when they arrived, they noticed stone houses and skin boats. This is widely considered proof that the Irish were there before them. The Eskimo are not known to make stone houses. And while, they did have skin boats, they didn’t tan the hides, so it is thought they would have quickly rotted, unlike Irish boats that were made of tanned leather.
It would actually be hard to avoid discovering Greenland, if there were many journeys to Iceland. If the wind is blowing the wrong way, it can be quite hard to make a safe landfall on the South of Iceland because of all the cliffs. The natural course is to go out to sea until the weather changes. Quite easy to be blown to Greenland. The weather was warmer back in the early medieval period, so it probably would have been easier than now.
There also seems to have been a pattern of the Vikings encountering Irish as they went from one island to another on the way to Iceland, as is evidenced by many toponyms. The Vikings who settled these lands may have even come from Ireland. Archaeological evidence in Iceland was missing for quite some time, at least into the ’70s, or even later. Probably would be difficult to find anything in Greenland, which is even less hospitable.
Vikings. They were on the island of Britain at the same time as they were in Kiev. “Russian” princesses married “English” Earls. The last Anglo-Saxon princess, Gytha married Vladimr II a grand prince and ruler of Kiev. They were all culturally Danish. The Anglo Saxons who fled from the Normans to form the Varangrian guard for the Byzantine Emporer were given land in Crimea, maybe the whole Crimea. Also modern Novorossisyk was one of their settlements. There were allegedly 350 ships involved. (Just means a lot?).
Movement on that scale across Northern Europe might have homogenized teh upper class who of course left most descendants.
A while back I watched the Brazilian film Elite Squad(2007) since I had never seen a Brazilian film and was curious to see whether one would virtue-signal about blacks, given the supposed political differences between the US and Brazil regarding race.
Was there any virtue-signaling about blacks? Yes, there was.
How about these Serbs? Clearly, for the most part, not Slavs:
https://i.imgur.com/fMvyi7d.jpg
https://www.fr.de/bilder/2018/03/02/11015943/104860259-1065568-15ec.jpg
Compared to Lviv:
https://i.imgur.com/MSQcbRP.jpg
Here is a famous conductor of the Graz orchestra, a Ukrainian girl from a town in Galicia:
http://martinwullich.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PhotoWerK_OG_Lyniv_HiRes_026-Medium.jpg
Dark hair and eyes, but doesn’t look like a typical southern Italian or Serb like this Serbian woman:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/94/fa/7794fa2a80e16cb628ef2e87ae207382.jpg
Carpathian people have some mixture with Romanians.
Genetics is great at disproving mythology. Ukrainians are Slavs, but with some Balkan and “Caucasian” admixture that makes them darker. Russians are also Slavs, but with some Finnic admixture that makes them lighter. Turkic mixture of Ukrainians is something like 1-2%.
Serbs and Bulgarians are non-Slavic Balkanoids, but with some Slavic admixture that results in a few of them having a Slavic-looking appearance.
The Nordic phenotype among the proto Balto-Slav population is much older than that and it went the other way around: the Battle Axe Culture descended from the Corded Ware Culture conquered Fenno-Scandian neolithic populations. The CWC and the Battle Axe people were the original Nordic people. That’s where the Norse got their blond hair from.
It depends on what Basques you are speaking about. If you mean the current inhabitants of the Spanish Basque Country, yes, you are right. If you mean ethnic Basques, it’s different. My Polish ex though that the “caseros” (baserritarrak in Basque, people who live in farmhouses in the countryside) looked “French” to her. These people are almost invariably ethnic Basques: people with Basque-surnamed ancestors on both sides of their families.
But I guess you have to spend some time in the Basque Country to notice these differences, especially if you come from a distant place such as Russia. During its first decades of existence at the turn of the 20th century the Basque Nationalist Party (PNV), that has been ruling the autonomous Spanish Basque Country almost uninterruptedly since the 1970s, only allowed people with 8 consecutive Basque surnames to become members but such a rule now would condemn it to be a small minority.
In any case, and though the difference might not be so stark, if you visit Honolulu you might conclude that people in Hawaii don’t look too different from other Americans but you shouldn’t rush to judgements about what Pacific Islanders look like from such a visit. I don’t think that the Basque language would have persisted over millennia if there wasn’t some underlying difference between its speakers and their neighbors.
That’s where the Y haplogroup R originated, but the Ma’lta Bouret people were not blond or red haired. They were typical Siberian people related to the Amerinds. That was and still is the best phenotype for the great northern taiga and tundra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%27ta%E2%80%93Buret%27_culture
https://donsmaps.com/images24/furclothingmalta2.jpg
https://donsmaps.com/malta.html
The Ma’lta Bouret people are the ancestors of the majority of both Eastern and Western European male populations. Blond hair came from somewhere else.
Doggerland was a paradise during the later time of the ace age. It was way more hospitable a place than Lake Baikal at the time. Doggerland was flooded when the climate got warmer, its population had the time to migrate towards Central Europe.
I enjoyed playing Deus Ex: Human Revolution, despite some clear diversity signaling. I guess it is there at a level that you can take ironically as a warning. All the black hookers in China; some black woman cyborg commenting about the two prejudices she faces now: being black and being a cyborg.
I view Adam’s boss as a tragic figure who thought that he could save Detroit by dint of his genius. Of course, he was dead wrong. But maybe he chose the location to discourage black ops teams from attacking his HQ.
That’s in Krasnoyarsk Krai. A bit further West than Lake Baikal, but still fairly East, as a whole. Of course, genotype is not phenotype, and first evidence of is not necessarily first.
I commented upon it above: Ukrainians = Slavs + Vlakhs + Circassians + Turkic people (in the decreasing proportion) Russians = Slavs + Ugric people + Turkic people (in decreasing proportion).
Original Slav = Balto-Slav = people of Western Poland.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IYVbdFaz-aI/W9RtIW1boJI/AAAAAAAAxgw/QUIwcvu6HEoDe-47eTj8zD7uBeM3JsBxACLcBGAs/s1600/Kashubs%2Bfolk%2Bcostumes.jpg
Add some Finn = Russian.
Add some Vlakh = Ukrainian.
The difference is minor.
In the Balkanic people it depends on the region. They are a mix. The Bulgarian and the Bosnian populations are the least Slavic among those speaking a Slavic language.
Is this based on blood tests?
Because the idea sounds like complete bullshit to me. The benefits of “HIIT” are generally so ludicrously oversold that it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if “it increases your T!” was another myth added to an already long list.
To understand how politically meaningless “DNA studies” are, consider the following.
Imagine that some day all the data are in, that we know precisely the makeup of any racial group we care to consider, and the results have been subjected to the most rigorous testing and have time and again come out the same so that we can rely on this knowledge with as much confidence as the most robust of scientific theories.
On that fine day, do you really suppose people will breath a great sigh of relief and say, thank God, finally we can now know just who were are supposed to feel close to and just who are not?
Do you imagine anything like the following conversation will take place?
Two friends are comparing the results of their genetic assays. One of the friends frowns and says, “Well, we have a problem here. I require people to be at least 97.65% genetically similar to me, but from your results I see you are only 96.75% similar. Given that, I’m afraid you and I can no longer be friends. I’m sure you can understand why. So long then. Oh, and give my best to your parents!”
And another thing, have DNA studies ever seriously disconfirmed what your eyeballs were telling you? In the sense that you once might have thought a given racial group was similar to yours, but on seeing the DNA studies you have now come to believe that, wow, they’re just nothing like me at all?
What is this opinion based on? Imo, from eyeballing them, Bosnians generally look more “slavic” to me than Serbs. Not a night-and-day difference, but I think they tend more in this direction. That is, whether or not they’re “genetically” slavic, a greater proportion of them tends to have a look the corresponds to my conception of a”slavic look”; or put differently, fewer of them have a look that diverges sharply from a slavic look than is found in Serbs (and, needless to say, Bulgarians).
IIRC David Sarif was based on Steve Jobs, up and and including his part Mediterranean features(Jobs is part Syrian) and I think the writers conveyed his combination of genius and narcissism well, though Sarif ultimately is a much better human being than Jobs was.
I liked him. As a earnest transhumanist, there was always that blinding positivity and hope to him that was refreshing in the world of Deus Ex. Not that his plans worked out particularly well, and I suspect that his dream of “making a better human” may not pan out well either, even if his argument about human advancement being innately human is compelling.
But his blindness to negative externalities is kind of his strength, ultimately. The reason why he could keep going and why his mentor Darrow couldn’t, was because Sarif didn’t think too hard about the consequences.
This is a completely meaningless example, since we see owners of black beards and mustaches that completely change their appearance. Take a look at the photo below.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/444876697016754176/aUymvb61_400x400.jpeg
It is necessary to compare group photos of people selected not by appearance. Here are the Serbs
https://d.radikal.ru/d14/2103/a3/50913df9f9cb.png
But the Ukrainians http://www.udau.edu.ua/assets/images/2015/sport/volleyball/final/IMG_2543.JPG
The difference as you can see is small
Here is a team from the north of Russia for comparison.
http://cdn.dvinanews.ru/p907506f/8e9g.jpg
As you can see in terms of appearance, Ukrainians are close to the inhabitants of the Balkans. but very different from the North Europeans of any kind. There will also be a big difference Ukrainians with the Poles from the north of Poland
The world we live in is terrible, but it is still far superior to anything to came before it. Importantly, we can make it much better precisely for the reasons you outlined. The bar is set at a very low level.
Incidentally, I’d never thought I’d see someone NRx-aligned(or adjacent) make moralistic arguments like that. I’m impressed.
Searching for “Lviv university class” gives these results
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ALSBm8Rvs_w/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mCl0VOvsL5c/maxresdefault.jpg
https://www.mbbsuniversities.com/files/catalog/lviv/15.jpg
🙂
The obsession with racially categorising various Slavic groups seem quaint to me. The original Swedes were darker in complexion and hair-color than the current crop of which I am a descendant of.
What happened over millenia was simply evolutionary pressure that led to selection for paler, more blond people as adaption to the climate. There’s nothing inherently “pure” about this, it is just the changing circumstances of life.
By the same dint, Slavs that lived in northern clines underwent a similar divergent evolutionary path than those who lived further south, affecting outward appearances. The idea that we should elevate people with certain skin pigmentation over others is primitive.
I looked over Karlin’s piece about healthy long living and thought that it was overall a good beginner’s primer. He’s a little too harsh on coffee’s effects, and a little underappreciative of the benefits of taking a few well chosen supplements. Basically, mother’s advice to eat a balanced diet with lots of fruits and vegetable and good sources of meat and fats will go a long way. Try to stay away from mother’s delicious sweets, tortes and cheesecakes as much as possible, leave them for special holidays and treats.
When it comes to diet and supplements, I look for items that will help improve ones heart and circulatory health and improve the body’s ability to stave off various cancers. I would estimate that over 90% of people in the West die of either heart or cancer related problems. Here’s where supplements can be very useful and help include nutrients that are hard to accumulate in the proper amounts from diet alone. COQ10 and carnitine are great for helping to create the best environment for a strong heart, as is Vitamin K2 M7 (good for bone health too). Arginine is really great for clearing out the circulatory system too.
From a dietary level, I would strongly urge people to juice vegetables and fruits, including a base of celery, carrots, beets, ginger, peppers and cabbage. Other greens can be included as available too. Beets are a superfood that most Slavs have no problem finding within their diets. I’ll look into the nicotinamide that you use and would suggest that you look into the nattokinase within natto and see whether you think that including natto might help you live to be at least 100?
There are a lot of such students everywhere now, even in the provincial universities of Russia
https://www.1obl.ru/upload/medialibrary/acf/acfc21ba9b07befca71be3f93bca0a9e.jpg
You’re right.
99.9% of people are not interested in this topic, but there is a small group of people who have a strange passion for this issue. Usually they are obsessed with light hair/eyes, but there are other cases. AP for unknown reasons very much wants that Ukrainians and Poles were considered as the most” true ” Slavs
Why do you think so? As far as I know, the Icelanders have kept almost unchanged the appearance of the Scandinavians of the early Middle Ages. As far as I can tell Icelanders are (in most cases) fair haired
It’s a common fact and often repeated in modern history books.
This excerpt is from the latest book I read about Chinese Imperial history, The Manchu Way by Mark Elliott. I’m too lazy to go through other books I have read in past but Wikipedia says that there were 1.1 million members of “literati” or scholar-official-gentry in 1850 and that by then Qing had a population of 450 million people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_structure_of_China#Qing_dynasty
You’re, or you’re family is from Jiangnan and you’re 60% Mongol? How odd? I’ve never heard of modern day Mongols from that region and I’ve always believed that eternally cursed Taiping scum killed all of Manchus and Mongols who lived there. I thought that only Mongols in South are those who live among Tibetans in Sichuan and Yunnan, or the small group of Kuomintang collaborators who later fled to Taiwan.
IIRC biological parents of Steve Jobs were Syrian students in the US, who gave him to adoption in USA because they felt they were too young and poor to raise him. They went back home after their studies and had other children there. Jobs was biologically a 100 % Syrian and mentally a 100 % American.
Few of us process pain or attachment in same way, the differences between women, men and children are quite big, but the gap between man and various animals is even bigger. All sentient beings or creatures with consciousness have sensations or stimuli which are worth of pursuing or worth of avoiding, even a fly can differentiate between various sense impulses, therefore a fly is capable of crude discernment or value judgment. Though pain or pleasure are vastly different for fly, they still do feel them in some way, as do all other sentient beings. Even such a basic thing as concentrating on some object of mind is necessary for all sentient beings, or how else a worm or a fly can pursue food? They must differentiate the object which has the nature of food from those objects which do not have the nature of food.
Do you now understand why I claimed that pain is pain, and attachment is attachment, no matter what our physical basis is? If being can’t differentiate between various stimuli, it’s not sentient.
Did I claim otherwise? For clarification I will say that I have no fixed opinion on the topic of Transhumanism, only time will tell. Also I have no religious, spiritual, moral or philosophical biases for or against Transhumanism.
Mr. XYZ is a big alt history fan.
The Bosniak people I have personally been acquainted with, including a young woman I have briefly dated before I met my wife.
Typical Bosniak would be Enki Bilal, the graphic novels artist, whose human characters also reproduce the typical Bosniak physical features.
https://images.app.goo.gl/Q3d3HDjk9W2381Mq7
Alija Izetbegovic also has the same type, but admixed with Turkic characteristics:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Izetbegovic.jpg/220px-Izetbegovic.jpg
The Bosniaks are the typical representatives of what the nineteenth century raciologists named the Dinarics:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/4d/5c/ef4d5c7fa6ae368b59c0e4e6811ff6a7.png
These early anthropologists had no notion of human genetics or Y haplogroup markers, but we know today that this type is strongly correlated with the Y haplogroup I2a.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I2a.gif
Notice the correlation between the distribution of the Dinaric phenotype and Y haplogroup I2a genetic marker.
Today Y haplogroup I2a is present in all Slavic populations. But the proportions are very variable. How this Y haplogroup got associated with the Slavs is not entirely clear. I have my pet theory about it, but it is beside the point discussing it here.
Interestingly the other branch of Y haplogroup I, I1 is strongly correlated with the Nordic and Germanic populations.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml
Of note, both branches are seldom found together in significant proportion in the same area.
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I1.gif
This is due to I1 having been absorbed by the Bell Beaker, while I2a has been mostly absorbed by Corded Ware folks.
To answer your other question, about why people are interested into genetics of different ethnic groups, in my personal case I like to know as much as I can about my ancestors. Their origins, migrations, cultures to which they belonged, their spiritual traditions and their symbols. It has absolutely nothing to do with any supposed “racial purity”, all human populations are admixed, none of them is “pure”. Y haplogroups are just markers of patrilinear descent, they do not code for any phenotypic trait.
Large and clear difference between the Ukrainians and Serbs (the guy in green on the Ukrainian photo is some kind of Caucasian, not Ukrainian). Also a large and clear difference between the northern Russians and the Ukrainians – as one would expect, because northern Russians are also not of much Slavic descent, they are Slavicized Finns.
There wouldn’t be much of a difference between Ukrainians and Slavic Russians from central and southern Russia.
Afontova Gora people were related to Ma’lta Buret people, they were Y haplogroup Q, in fact they were the ancestral population to the Ma’lta Buret folks who were Y haplogroup R (Y haplogroups are descended from one another in an alphabetic order). AFG people were also the genetic relatives of the modern Native Americans. Although some NW Amerind myths mention fair haired Native American clans been replaced by the Clovis Culture descended Native Americans, this is now impossible to prove. Kennewick man has to my knowledge not been analyzed for his phenotypic traits. Perhaps in the future, if some remains are discovered and sequenced we will know more about it.
The modern distribution of the relevant Y haplogroup Q subclade is as follows:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Global_frequency_distribution_map_of_haplogroup_Q-M242_%28Y-DNA%29.png
Therefore I strongly doubt that AFG folks might have been a blond and fair skinned population. Blond, Red hair and fair skin alleles are recessive. As soon as a mix with the dominant Black hair and swarthy complexion alleles happens, the lighter phenotype is diluted. AFG people might have picked up these alleles somewhere, but given their direct relationship with MB people, modern Siberian populations such as Kets and the Yukagir and the Amerinds, their phenotype was probably similar to the modern day Siberian populations.
This phenotype is the most appropriate for survival in extremely cold and snow covered landscape. Siberian winter is dry and sunny. You basically need dark slanted eyes there and you do not need fair skin.
The blond and red haired phenotype was selected somewhere else. The best conditions for its selection are less snowy and more dark clouded environment which is now found in the Northern Sea Doggerland region. It was a densely populated area in the Mesolithic before it was submerged by the sea at the end of the Ice Age.
From wiki:
His biological father, Abdulfattah “John” (al-)Jandali (Arabic: عبد الفتاح الجندلي) (b. 1931), grew up in Homs, Syria, and was born into an Arab Muslim household.[4] While an undergraduate at the American University of Beirut, Lebanon, he was a student activist and spent time in prison for his political activities.[4] He pursued a PhD at the University of Wisconsin, where he met Joanne Carole Schieble, a Catholic of Swiss and German descent.[4][5] As a doctoral candidate, Jandali was a teaching assistant for a course Schieble was taking, although both were the same age.[6] Mona Simpson, Jobs’s biological sister, notes that her maternal grandparents were not happy that their daughter was dating a Muslim.[7] Walter Isaacson, author of the Steve Jobs biography, additionally states that Schieble’s father “threatened to cut Joanne off completely” if she continued the relationship
I was not aware of his mother being of Germanic descent. It was a good mix, now I understand why Merkel invited all these refugies to Germany. She hopes for some baby “Steve Jobs” being born there in the future. Perhaps that is why the Kalergi Plan people blew up Syria: they hope for a crop of some high IQ sociopaths in Europe.
(Just kidding)
Thing is, you’re not allowed any mulligans in life. Neither is the human race. What would have happened if Adam had never eaten of the forbidden fruit?…….
I find it a little strange that people obsess over alternative histories, etc. There’s plenty of things that have happened that I don’t have the time to understand? Unread books lying on my bookshelf. Unheard music. Unseen films.
The Germans don’t get a Jobs (or a Musk) because they don’t want to win.
https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1341677423675490304
Amusingly, some of Deus Ex’s ethnic stereotypes were quite accurate.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/how-russian-is-the-russian-mafia/
Agree. This is tragic. Such a fine people relegated to the role of Globohomo’s bottom.
The (Gay) ambassador of Ukraine in Germany demanded from German government to put maximum Atlanticist pressure on Russia to ensure the return of Crimea to Ukraine.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW-AvwdWoAAlhs6?format=jpg&
The fact that he did that is nothing surprising. What is surprising is that he justified that by the crimes committed during the Nazi occupation of the Crumean peninsula (it was then a part of Russia). While doing this he conveniently forgot that some ethnic Ukrainian SS officers are officially hailed as heroes in modern day Ukraine.
When an Ukrainian Queer, wearing a postmodern blue and fluo pink vyshivanka can try ordering your country to do something against your best economic interests because “Muh evil Nazi Holocaust “, it is clear that you are not at your maximum strength anymore.
Pelevin’s level of postmodern absurdity.
I was more referring to this:
My understand was that scholar-governors were not particularly rich and thus wouldn’t be able to give all that generously. That said, my detailed knowledge of the court is mostly pre-Qing; due to the Machu nature of the Qing and their reorganization of the court with ethnic quotas, its quite a bit more confusing. I’ll have to check Mr. Elliot’s book.
Yes, we were KMT and continued to be in leadership positions in the KMT until purged much later after Lord Chiang’s death by his successor.
It’s actually a brilliant move by Ukraine, sending this guy to Germany where he will fit in and charm the westerners with his ways, while keeping him out of his native country where he may be in danger. Perhaps many more can be sent out to do diplomatic duty in the West. If some of them are of partial African descent this will be a bonus, Ukraine’s western partners will not dare to deny any request for weapons, financial aid, etc.
I’m big on understanding the biochemistry(when possible) and mechanism of why something works, so I’m skeptical of most supplements. Their promoters are incentivized to promote themselves, of course, and so as long as it doesn’t hurt someone and the placebo effect works for them, there’s a lot of expensive pee to be sold.
I’m also skeptical of folk science, because why it is has validity, it can also hurt you. For example, contrary to “eat your veggies” a ketogenic or meat-heavy diet can be remarkably healthy.
https://twitter.com/Mangan150/status/1102766212264546304
And fruit juice may be shortening your life. This all ultimately plays into my earlier skeptical of a lot of folk wisdom as a whole. Demand explanations, quantify everything.
Its unlikely that we can confidently put a number to age from interventions, especially minimalistic ones like supplementation due to the number of genetic and epigenetic and other lifestyle consequences but I think that we’re making good progress to at least add life to human years even if there’s still a lot of challenge in adding years to the human life. But the former probably matters more.
There’s really nothing wrong with it, and I do enjoy reading fiction. It’s just not my cup of tea. I guess when I’m through studying all that there is within the more traditional forms of human history, I’ll give it more of a try. 🙂
Nattokinase is absorbed into the body from a form of fermented soybeans called Natto. The Japanese, amongst the longest living human beings on the planet have been using it for 2,000 years and most researchers attribute their longevity in large part to the inclusion of this food into their diet. I do have a bottle of it in capsule form, in case I’m running a busy week and can’t cook the stuff up myself. But really, all it takes is boiling up some rice or buckwheat.
I mostly juice veggies and add perhaps one lime, lemon or orange to the whole pot, and it improves the flavor and gives it that zing that most people love – full of Vitamin C too.
That is a subjective opinion, and one I don’t share at all. If I saw someone like that on the street, I wouldn’t for a second think “hmm, seems a bit Turkish-admixed.” (Plenty of Turks do have something like that look, but plenty more have something distinctly more asiatic going on.)
Mind you, I’m not accusing you of doing anything wrong in harboring a subjective opinion. Racial perceptions are unavoidably subjective to some degree. (Within reason – if you claimed Izetbegovic was African-admixed, I’d think you’re a complete idiot and terminate the discussion.)
I don’t recall posing this as a question. You’d have to be blind as a bat not to notice the political uses which the genetics studies are being put to in this thread (and discussions similar to it in other places).
Perhaps I misread one of your comments above. My bad if it is the case.
Absolutely correct. As Trophim Lysenko has supposedly said: “Генетика – продажная девка империализма” (Genetics is a venal and corrupt whoring girl of imperialism).
This is why one needs to double check everything population geneticist publish, they are often inclined to write PC stuff and obfuscate deranging findings. That is why they also prefer mudding the waters by looking into SNPs and genetic admixture or mtDNA haplogroups instead of looking into Y haplogroup markers which are hard to manipulate.
You don’t want to fool around the Georgian mafia bosses.
https://communistcrimes.org/sites/default/files/inline-images/beria%20i%20stalin.jpg
So ruthless that even their Ukrainian Jewish counterparts found them deadly dangerous…
https://www.washingtonian.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Ice-Axe-2-2048×1828.jpg
This was during the Ice Age though.
Well, 15,000 years ago is a long time ago, and, in places, where blondism is the most common, there seems to have been continuous selection for it – so, if we extrapolate backwards, then I wouldn’t say they were a blond people, but might they have had a few blonds? I think so. There are numerous ethnic groups in Asia with low levels of blondism, like Pamiris, Kalash, Nuristani and Uyghur. I would predict something similar among the AFG.
The real question to me is, why isn’t blond hair more common in these modern groups? I don’t know if anyone has ever looked at it, to see if it is being selected for, but it would be something interesting to look at. It’s not necessarily something in a direct relationship to light. For example, it might have to do partly with sexual selection in a more monogamous environment.
Some believe that red hair and blondism are at war, so to speak, and that red hair was the quick and dirty way to get light skin (with some costs), and blondism evolved later to occupy the same climatic space.
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This is interesting. We now know that already the Neanderthal people were red haired, although the allele was different from the Homo sapiens one.
But as I wrote above the far North has been successfully populated by the dark haired populations. Therefore, cold and snow during the Ice Age are not responsible for selecting the light hair phenotype. Something else must have contributed to that.
OTOH, perhaps the Toba supervolcano catastrophe consequences would have produced such a selective environment in the higher latitudes. Again, less light, more clouds and couler but not necessarily cold climate.
And to finish: the Guanche (proto) Berber people isolated on the Canary Islands, were more fair haired and light skinned than the Spaniards who conquered and replaced them. The Guanche folks have been isolated there for thousands years without any notable contact with other outside populations. Therefore, already in the Neolithic the fair haired phenotype was widely distributed even in non-European populations.
Thanks.
Very powerful Russiagate Reddit comment
Casually trying to push that Russia and China did 9/11. Very cool.
Only meant this in the sense that the Ice Age would have made it hard for them to pick up the allele from another pop. Or, at least, that is how I imagine it – isolated refugia.
Good point about the Guanche. My favorite story about the Canary islanders is Silbo Gomero, the whistling language, which many assume the Spanish adapted from the natives.
It beats embracing the Nigerian singularity.
I’m sorry for my harsh words against KMT, I didn’t know that your family has a connection with the KMT, and I tend to forget that Blinky Bill’s family also has such connection, for I think you both are good guys, though partially westernised (colonised) in thinking, you with the Semitic esoterica and Bill seems to have drank some Anglo kool aid, but then it’s very hard for one to keep one’s sanity when living in a postmodern Anglo society. (Just a friendful joke, sorry!)
If KMT would have continued to rule China, it’s likely that ethnic areas would have had more autonomy, but Muslim warlords affiliated with KMT were even more destructive ffor Tibetan Buddhism than the CCP, Ma clique committed multiple genocides against various Buddhist ethnic groups of Qinghai and Gansu. Also it should never be forgotten that Sun and Chiang had become protestants and latter was extremely supportive towards Muslims.
I’ve understood otherwise, that many, though not all, were wealthy landowners and it was a status symbol to have imperial titles and offices, or to have lots of free time for improving oneself by learning or with refined artistic hobbies.
I guess if we consider the paleo-Eskimo cultures – one replacing the other, even in a harsh environment – then it is likely that there was a certain amount of dynamism during the Ice Age.
These reconstructions always seem to land in the Uncanny Valley. Mentioned it before, but when I first saw the Cheddar Man reveal, I honestly thought it was a brilliant satirical meme. That they had put it through Photoshop to darken it and make it look waxier, perhaps give it just the barest hint of a wry smile. Definitely, politically-motivated, IMO. Default assumption should be that he was not as black as an African.
Ukrainian anti-material rifle. Big post-apocalyptic aesthetic.
https://armyinform.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/foto-3-e1615970161877.png
What are the implications of India seeking to ban crypto?
Will they just be the first? I thought Bitcoin was popular with the establishment because it contained a record of transactions, but it seems like they are trying to ban in it India.
https://twitter.com/RokoMijicUK/status/1372289242399932418
Amazon actually lost ~90% of its value shortly after this. It took almost a decade for the stock to recover. And now it’s increased over 30x since the recovery. Should’ve bought the dip.
PTRS grew up.
India is where rational explanations go to die।।
All they’ll do is ensure that some of the more law-abiding and conscientious Indians will be poorer in a few years than they otherwise would have been.
#DeFi is going to eat TradFi and there is nothing anyone, not even USG, can do about it.
They’re trying to replace it with government digital currency which will by definition provide a better record of transaction. If they really go forward with the ban, they’re idiots.
On the upside, I’ll get to meme on balajis.com for ever afterward.
Sheriff says Atlanta shooting suspect was “fed up” and had a “really bad day”
He seems to make a good case.
I like the counterargument that India should be buying Bitcoin.
Serbs look similar to their neighbour nationalities, especially Italians, but this doesn’t mean they are not Slavs. By definition, Serbs are a Slavic people, as they are one of the core nations of the South Slavs.
Slavic is a categorization of nationalities by their language history, which became a wide group of nations in more than thousand years of history. A Slavic nation is one which is historically adopted to Slavic language group. In the ethnogenesis of the early Slavs, these were a Central European tribes. But today Slavic nations includes this includes descendants of nationalities which were not all originally Central European peoples, but can have ancestry of Vikings, Balts, Finns, Illyrians, etc.
English people are today including many descendants of Celts and Huguenots. This doesn’t mean that English are not an anglosaxon nationality, as English was formed by adopting the language of the Saxon invaders that arrived in Great Britain island in the 5th century.
“Slavic appearance” in Poland or Czech Republic, is just a standard Central European appearance. And in Russia it’s most people just have a Central or Northern European appearance.
In the Balkans, the Slavic nationalities have a Southern European appearance. This is because the ancient populations of Europe have not disappeared anywhere, and they merged to the ruling tribes when these arrived in their region.
Most Serbs are a Southern European people, that does not mean that they are not Slavs. Serbs are Slavs just as much as Ukrainians or Poles can be.
Similarly are non-Cushitic Ethiopians less Semitic than Lebanese? Of course not – by definition, the Ethiopian ethnic groups that historically speak Semitic languages, are part of the Semitic peoples.
Because going to medical school in Lvov will be much more affordable for students from low income countries, in comparison to studying in a country like the USA. I guess it could be 10-20 times cheaper to go to medical school in Ukraine than in the USA?.
Their medical course will be provided in English, and Lvov is at least a visually very beautiful city, so it’s probably not such a bad student experience for them there.
I don’t know about Ukraine, but in Russia the universities are also often privileging foreign students in terms of trying to give them a bit more modern accommodation buildings (after all, foreign students are less captive customers than non-foreign students). So the foreign students’ accommodation buildings might be a bit newer and less scary than some of the ones of the local students.
As an “idea,” you can approve it or denounce it as you wish, yet it’s also an observable tendency. People don’t necessarily mean very much by it, but there does seem to be a slight (occasionally more than slight) preference there. Watch a Turkish or a Latin America soap opera and you’d think it was somewhere in Europe. Why would this happen if there weren’t some innate preference people tend to have? (Same thing with Hindoo tv shows, except you wouldn’t mistake them for being in Europe; still totally unrepresentatively slanted towards their lighter types though.)
It’s a bit like IQ. It’s very easy to denounce the idea that we should be judging people by their IQs, very easy to pretend that IQ is “meaningless,” and the people who say things like this quite likely do indeed sincerely feel that whatever their own IQ is, it’s “high enough.” And yet… and yet… these same people would not want their IQs to be any lower. If you offered them some drug that was guaranteed (just play along) to add, say, three months to their lifespan at the cost of 10 IQ points, it’s a fairly safe bet they would turn down the offer.
“Slavic” can refer to any of race, culture or language. You are using it linguistically, while AP is using it racially. Using it linguistically is quite straightforward, while using it racially is valid, but it’s fraught with misapprehensions. Using it culturally seems lie somewhere in between.
I would say that south slavs are linguistically and culturally quite solidly slavic, but racially while is obvious overlap with western and eastern slavs, a significant proportion of them tend to have more in common with southern Europeans.
Regarding Serbs and Italians, there is undoubtedly significant overlap, but there are also numerous people in both groups I would never confuse for each other. Imagine there are two rooms, A and B. If each contained either only Serbs or only Italians, and I knew this, then it would be very simple to identify the Italian and the Serb room. All it would require me to do is to look for some distinctive types that my experience has taught have an extremely low/high likelihood of being Serb/Italian. But if the rooms were mixed, then I would not be at all confident in my ability to discern who is what, individual by individual, in that room.
That said, the political significance of this turns entirely on whether you are a “lumper” or a “splitter.”
I don’t usually comment on Open Threads when they get to be above 200 posts (or even 100) since I don’t have time to read the comments and follow the conversation, but I thought this was useful info, in case anybody is still reading this one. Apparently they failed in making a Biden montage realistic enough so he was caught making an interview. Maybe Deep Fakes coming next, but those can still be discerned somehow I suppose.
So if, for example, Kazakhs completely lost their Turkic language and adopted the Russian language, would they be Slavs according to you? How about if an African tribe did so? Or is this limited to white people of overwhelmingly non-Slavic descent but who speak a Slavic language.
Indeed. Purity does not exist anywhere. But still, English people are at least around half descended from Angles, Saxons, etc. A Jamaican may be around 15% English by descent and may speak a form of the English language, but is not an Englishman. An Irish person may speak only the English language, but is not an Englishman.
I think the reasoning here is that the speakers of Semitic languages are descended from Semitic settlers. Within Ethiopia, the people speaking Semitic languages are about 40% to 50% non-African while the others are fully African:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3397267/
In contrast, Balkan peoples like Bulgarians or Serbs are only of about 20% non-Balkan (i.e., Slavic) origin.
Linguistically, absolutely. Culturally? Partially, with respect to elements of culture such as the Orthodox Church, and Cyrillic alphabet that binds Orthodox Balkan “Slavs” to Eastern Slavs. But the way of life seems more like that of the Albanians or Caucasians with their vendetta customs:
I made a comment about this. It does look very weird. But it would be completely meaningless to fake it. So it’s probably weird angles.
I’ve heard of the words “krvna osveta,” but I have never once heard of a single instance of it among Serbs – or indeed among any non-Albanians. In fact, the only Albanian instance of it I’m aware of is that which I saw on a documentary once, many years ago. (Which shocked me: some dude who was considered safe within his house, but supposedly couldn’t leave it without being killed. Damn, primitive AF.)
While it’s silly to present this dead practice as amounting to a “way of life” (your words), if you wanted to argue that the fact that it ever existed means Serbs historically took a divergent developmental path from other Slavs, well okay. It seems a stretch to disqualify Serbian culture from being considered Slavic on this basis, but I’m in no way invested in “proving” the Slavicness of Serbs, so if you insist on it, that’s fine by me.
To give you my answer to question you posed earlier about (I think) the Kyrgyz or whatever, and whether they should be considered Slavic, well, if their sole national language was Slavic, then I think they probably would/should be, although the racial difference would give some people pause. Whether they “really” are or not, it’s easy to view Serbs as Slavs not only because of language and names, but also appearance – well, easy for normies anyway, not necessarily for internet race scientists.
And there’s also the question of self-identification. Rightly or wrongly, Serbs generally identify as Slavs, whereas Kyrgyz don’t. Again, this is something that normies find simple enough to respect, even if it doesn’t meet your own more exacting requirements.
So you were talking about Kazakhs not Kyrgyz, my mistake. Still, the same reasoning applies. Your confusion could easily be cleared up if you ceased conflating linguistic categories with ethnic categories. For the reasons I outlined in my previous post, it would be quite a stretch to consider central asians as ethnically slavic.
And I have to phrase it this way. There are no hard and fast rules we can consult to make ethnic determinations. We can only attempt to attach vague probabilities to the likelihood of people being seen – or seeing themselves – one way versus another way.
There are different studies on the topic but AFAIK the English are mostly half Anglo-Saxon (when this means of German origin), half Celtic in terms of genetics, in the more Northern and Western parts of England the Anglo-Saxon contribution can drop to 10-20%. The Huguenots and the Normans have not left much of a trace genetically, though the Normans especially are important in the ethnogenesis of the English.
Then the basics of the English language are Germanic, and the majority of the core daily vocabulary, but once you switch up a register the influence of Norman French and Latin starts to become significant, I can’t remember the exact proportion of English vocabulary which derives from this source, but it is somewhere in the 1/3 – 1/2 range.
I think this mixed nature of the English fits with observable differences between the English and more ‘pure’ Germanic nations like the Dutch and Germans, and similarities with Celtic near neighbours.
Just over time the meaning of the term Anglo-Saxon has shifted from referring to Germanic tribes to being defined in relation to the mixed Germanic-Celtic population of England. There have also been, especially since the 1990s, various trends that make the meaning of terms like English more ambiguous, by extending it people of non-European descent who arrived in England post-1950 and who possess a British passport.
Balkans are not yet lost.
https://i.imgur.com/dceGBf8.jpg
Neither is Hungary(!).
https://i.imgur.com/colYsFk.jpg
People are Slavs because it’s an agreed common convention that they are Slavs, Prussians (and Pomeranians) were almost completely descendants of speakers of Slavic and Baltic languages, still everyone thought that the Prussians are Germans par excellence. By your logic Southern Germans are less Germanic than Northern Germans or Danes, because original Germans migrated about 2000 years ago from Northern Europe, and mixed heavily with the local Central European peoples like Celts.
Not half but 1/3 of English blood is from the Anglo-Saxons on average, maybe even less, after all Danish genes are marginally different from the genes of Anglo-Saxons, who were their neighbours.
btw, I forgot to reply to your post on Russian vaccine daily rate
Thanks for the link
Link ( least at the time you sent it) is heavily out of date for most reGIONS – which makes sense as there is absolutely no need for real-time updated vaccinations , as there is for infections,hospitalisations and fatalities
Link is unofficial. It also said that 2.1 million had been fully vaccinated – at a time when government clearly stated over 2.5 million were.
You say it’s 100k day getting vaccinated – I said 150k. This all depends on the denominator – afew numbers slightly different can prove either of us as correct. I think I’m right because I am only calculating after January 19th – the days before that are very much holiday time. We had this discussion a week+ before – so the calculation for me was 7.5 million (doses given) divided by 50 days…which gave the 150k
Your link shows that we had reached nearly 250k vaccinations in a day a few times. To me that is very impressive. US maximum reached 1.5 million in a day, UK – 500k. By maximum in a day rates that is 1/3rd of US and 1/4 of UK. I think thats good – certainly nothing for fake hysteria of russians “not wanting SputnikV” BS.
There is vaccines produced, then there is vaccines distributed to the regions, then there is vaccine checked and ready to use. As far as I can see, out of the vaccines “checked and ready to use”, a very high percentage of them have been taken – over 80%
I don’t think that really means a lot. I suspect the reason there’s a higher proportion of female academics in the Balkans and Eastern Europe is because they are “macho macho” cultures where men are expected to do manly jobs, like manual labour, or being a “businessman”.
I would guess in such places being an academic who reads books and writes papers all day is seen as an unmanly and feminine profession.
Chad North Macedonian scientists vs virgin Netherlands scientists?
It looks like less female researchers = higher scientific productivity.
Strikingly negative correlation with Nature Index: https://www.natureindex.com/country-outputs/generate/All/global/All/score
How big of a gay are you that a revenge or badla culture is bad in your eyes?
When the law changes to slurp nigger cum will you be first in line?
This rule of law larp you put on is gay.
You’re a Slav, act like it.
You sell your honour (izzat) to the state who pawns it off to the highest bidder.
In this way, you’re no different than your oppressor.
The Guru protects the izzat (honor) and anakh (pride) of all, he hands you the sword so you can walk with Maan (dignity)
I guess this is what they mean by Ukraine is a state of mind.
I’m currently reading the works of Nikolai Berdyaev. Do any of you scholarly gentleman, have either a strong opinion or recommendation to make, of any of his numerous works?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRc5vR99mytPl6UdQtCPe4H-UdcgBCiuh4jQA&usqp.jpg
I was initially reluctant to answer this question, for I did not want to reveal to much about my own family history. So I hope you’ll forgive me for answering this question in a rather vague manner. I have unfortunately read very few written accounts of their experiences, what I know is largely from hearsay and family lore from over 75yrs ago.
To the best of my knowledge their experiences varied with many factors, such as when they came to China (many were actually born there) anywhere between 1898 to the early 1920s. How politically active they were, to which political faction they belonged. When they choose to return to the Soviet Union eg early 1930s vs 1940s, they were actually several waves of repatriation, what kind of standing they had with Soviet representatives in Harbin etc etc.
I think many people underestimate how heterogeneous the Russian Emigre community in Harbin was and how it’s compostion changed from 1890s – 1950s.
I liked his Bourgeois Mind and other Essays.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Flag_of_CER_%281897%29.svg
Looked at from two angles, (one some degrees to the left) they seem to line up. Essentially, it looks to be a big dead-cat boom, on a pole from the side, that they placed awkwardly below his elbow.
Flags of the Chinese Eastern Railway 1897-1932.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_CER_(1897).svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_CER_(1915).svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_CER_(1925).svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_CER_(1932).svg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Flag_of_CER_%281925%29.svg/1280px-Flag_of_CER_%281925%29.png
So your relatives worked in CER?
https://youtu.be/Ll709sAK2V4
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Flag_of_CER_%281915%29.svg/1024px-Flag_of_CER_%281915%29.svg.png
https://youtu.be/0I8-CbJYGMA?t=55
I am sorry you felt uncomfortable.
Beside the Wikipedia page, i have read this paper. Maybe you will find it interesting. Do not feel the need to elaborate on the details of the paper.
https://www.academia.edu/30750318/Repatriation_to_a_Totalitarian_Homeland_The_Ambiguous_Alterity_of_Russian_Repatriates_from_China_to_the_U_S_S_R
As one repatriate notes, the degree to which repatriates adapted depended on their age, gender, upbringing, degree of religiosity, political views, and personal character (L.V. Peshkova 2012b). The older generation, some of whom never worked in the Soviet Union, were able, and had to, adapt less (N.G. Razzhigaeva 2012a; Grigorev’na 2012).
Men had an easier time than women since they performed the chores of Soviet daily life much less frequently (L.V. Peshkova 2012c). One repatriate recalled that her divorce from a local Russian occurred primarily because of the differences between their Soviet and émigré upbringing; her husband had no patience for her cultural interests and considered her un-accustomedness to the demanding rigors of housework in the Soviet Union to be laziness (Mar’inskaia 2012). Numerous women who repatriated unmarried never married, for in the words of one repatriate “how could one compare local and repatriate men?” (Kameneva 2012). Repatriate men who married local women were considered by their wives to be great catches (N.G. Razzhigaeva 2012b), and these men have assimilated more than other repatriates (Sokolov 2012; Safronov 2012; Patrin 2012).
Because most repatriates of consenting age married those they were dating right before repatriation (fearing they would never see each other again), most adult repatriates did not have to face such challenges. Even widowed repatriates have tended to remarry fellow repatriates (“Zoia” 2009, 7; Mishin 2012).While feeling oneself a foreigner in one’s historic homeland was painful, since repatriates held a generally negative view of local Russians, their otherness became a source of pride; most repatriates argue that they are the real Russians.
Since they contrast themselves collectively to local Russians, it is not surprising that they do not hesitate to assign collective, positive traits to themselves as a group. They portray themselves collectively as extraordinary individuals. In a few cases this is presented as a defensive reaction against having been maligned for decades. One Harbiner praised his kind but also alluded to the critical way they had been viewed in the Soviet period: “we have our own ‘style,’ a distinctive way of conducting ourselves, the ability to see things in the best light in a difficult situation, to recklessly part with all our money, without destroying ourselves.’Harbiner’ is a marker that inspires pride throughout the world … No We are not ashamed to be Harbiners ” (Shelelov 2000,4)
Repatriates consider themselves extraordinary and the embodimentof Russianness because they were bom and raised outside of the Soviet Union. First, their upbringing, as the Frolova quote at the beginning ofthis article underscores, inculcated in them pre-revolutionary Russian values and traditions. Vladi wrote a friend that repatriates were able to endure the poverty and pain that pervaded life in the Soviet Union with-out becoming cruel as local Russians did due to their different upbringing and their religious belief (“Mir” 2004, 9).
This upbringing included a responsible work ethic their family members had brought with them from capitalist Imperial Russia to China (Safronov 2012; Bender 2012). Second, living outside of one’s historic homeland as émigrés had other advantages. Like post-Soviet Russians who lived or still live in the non-Russian former Soviet Republics, repatriates argue that living abroad made them more patriotic than Russians who lived their entire lives in Russia (Pilkington 1998, 59-60; Sazanova and Razzhigaeva 1998, 34; Ni-Mforov 2000, 10).
Others argued that living in emigration and then repatriating forced them to develop a superior professionalism, sense of initiative, and industriousness, which made it possible for them to quickly adapt to new surroundings and to survive both in China and the Soviet Union. The education they received in China in émigré or Western institutions, which they often view as superior to education in the Soviet Union, also enabled them to land on their feet after repatriation, as did the bravery they feel they had to learn to surmount the obstacles with which only émigrés and repatriates are confronted (Butorin 1998, 17-8; Taskina and Mukhin 2008, 5).
Of course, if they would be adopted and assimilated by a Slavic nationality (especially if it had happened in previous centuries, when most peoples were more geographically static, than in the globalized world of the 21st century).
Bob Marley is not considered an Englishman, but a Jamaican, as he was adopted by the Jamaicans (even though his father was an Englishman).
And nobody says “the famous Scottish poet Lermontov”, or “the famous Scottish composer Grieg”, even though their ancestors were Scottish, they were essential builders of Russian and Norwegian national culture in the 19th century.
Because tribal identity (which became nationality in the last thousand years) is programmed in childhood.
If an Irish child was adopted by a Russian family, they would become a Russian child, that nothing would seem non-Russian about them, unless their Russian parents specially was confusing their identity by giving them Gaelic folk songs, or an appreciation of the poetry of Yeats.
For as long as Slavism has been a historically important concept, the Serbs are considered one of the core Slavic nationalities. South Slavs ethnogenesis has been by the adoption of pre-existing peoples like Illyrians, to the ruling tribes’ Slavic languages.
The extent of ancestry from 5th century Slavic tribes is not the defining feature that was used to identify Slavic nationalities; otherwise most of the Russian ancestry is not part of the Slavic world, as a large basis of Russian ethnogenesis is from tribes of Balts like the Galindians, who settled in Russia centuries before the Slavic settlers (that they assimilated to) came to Russia. Slavic tribes came from Central Europe as later additions to Russia, rather as Saxons came to England later than Celts, and before the Norman ruling class.
Semitic Ethiopians will track the ancestry of the people to some extent, as languages are historically tracking the movement of the ruling tribes. But Semitic Ethiopians are considered a Semitic nationality, to the extent they speak Semitic languages like Amharic, and not because of the genetic studies.
And with even such longitudinally distant nationalities as Russians and English people, then around 80% of the people racially look the same (not in terms of mannerisms, etc, which are completely different).
But there will be a minority of faces which are only common in Russia, or only common in England.
These are the faces that not very intelligent pseudo-scientists in 19th century, would say “the typical Slavic face”, the typical “Saxon face”, when really they were just the psychologically distinctive faces, which the pseudo-scientists notice and remember because their brains had highlighted these faces as being useful when they doing a sorting process.
The main difference of European nationality is on the “software level”, but that culture is lot more deeply programmed in childhood than people who haven’t travelled in different countries will probably imagine.
Something strange I’ve experienced is that your unconscious can distinguish people from your nationality, even when in dark streets, on the other side of the road.
I think a couple of summers ago, I was walking in a dark street in a Western European city, and saw some vague silhouettes of the over side of the road fifty metres distant – and my unconscious immediately said “oh Russian people are here!”. And then I said to myself “no this is fantasy”. But then 30 seconds later confirmed it’s three Russian tourists.
It’s because even the posture and way that people walk from your nationality, is quite distinctive, and your unconscious knows it. But you only know this stuff unconsciously, and notice it when you were on the other side of the planet i.e. when suddenly the characteristics which you were habituated in became unusual (I couldn’t describe how people are walking differently in Western Europe, but somehow there are distinctive differences in peoples’ movements).
I once met a group of blonde, blue eyed Brazilians, speaking Portuguese among themselves. Phenotypically they resembled Germans, but their movements and mannerisms were completely Latin. Fascinating.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/640459736919048202/822263589872205824/unknown.png?width=678&height=665
https://twitter.com/qin_duke/status/1372672335891857411?s=21
Absolutely correct.
VVP is trolling Biden:
That’s what I call trolling with style…
If the United States were still an Anglo country, Duke of Qin would be right. But Anglo cultural dominance is dead in the U.S., and demographically they are just a large group(and a heavily mixed one at that), not anything close to a supermajority(that’s with counting all British Isles people as “Anglo”). The United States influence is catastrophic for other Anglo members of the Five Eyes Alliance, particularly Britain. So it’s not correct to refer to it as Anglo supremacy, unfortunately.
A better form of trolling with style might be imposing some symbolic (or not so symbolic) sanctions on the US on account of the increasing censorship of free speech by US companies, election fraud suspicions, treatment of minorities in the US, police brutality, etc.
Putin’s exact words will never reach Western audiences if they’re damaging for the Narrative but some well calculated sanctions may be more difficult to ignore for the Western media and could highlight the US establishment’s hypocrisy.
Certainly you can guess. You can guess away to your heart’s content. Threads like this are perfectly conducive to such guessing. If I were you, though, I’d be leery of confusing the contents of my guessing with actual knowledge. I’ve been guilty of the same thing myself on numerous occasions, so by reproving you, I’m also reproving myself (it’s just psychologically easier to aim at someone else lol); I think it would be a great idea if the next time we feel an irrepressible urge to post an opinion, we’d all do well to ask ourselves “as strong as my hunch is, do I have any actual evidence for it?”
Now you can choose to believe me or not, but among males for whom going into academia or going into business or doing something more “manly” with their brains was a real option, I’ve never heard of anyone so much as intimating that so-and-so is some kind of faggot for preferring a life spent researching over a life spent getting shit done, let alone making that accusation more forthrightly (eg a disapproving father). Among the lower orders, yes, there’s plenty of sneering at bookish types – no different to the Anglo world. (With respect to the rule of thumb I suggested above, my own experiences certainly count as evidence – though far from ironclad proof – to me, but they shouldn’t count as very strong evidence to you; perhaps just something to take into consideration.)
Fwiw, I certainly do believe that the balkans are less civilized than the west, and I know we’ve recently fought wars for ethnic reasons – something that civilized Europeans just aren’t supposed to do – but I don’t think the place is less civilized for the sorts of “brutish” reasons as may be suggested by those wars, but in more subtle ways, none of which by themselves is likely to tick you off, but the longer you spend there, their accumulation eventually gets to you. I suppose it’s similar to the occasional poster here Marshall Lentini’s experiences in Russia, though the particular things whose accumulation wore him down might have been different.
https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion/status/1371551391261589506
LOL. More like only Putin and Assad.
Did you peg for the latins before you heard them speak though? That would be the real test. Otherwise it’s too easy to fool yourself that you’re actually seeing something real rather than just imagining it.
I’m quite open to the idea that different ethnic groups do have detectably different gestures. Italians, for instance, have a reputation as gesticulators (I grew up around quite a few of them, and I am a big gesticulator myself, maybe that’s where I got it; prob not, but it’s fun to think so), but other ethnic mannerisms, if they exist, are probably more subtle than this. By mannerism here, I don’t have in mind single, distinctive gestures, peculiar to a given group, but the more subtle ways of standing or walking by which Dmitry thinks he identified Russians from their silhouettes.
Conceptually, this would be straightforward to construct a computerized test for. Just record people from different groups doing normal things like standing, talking, walking and then disguise them as silhouettes and see how many people can correctly distinguish them. My guess would be that people would grossly overrate their ability but I’d love to find out for sure. I think it would be like people – particularly ethnonationalists – who feel very confident of their ability to visually identity their own countrymen, but when put to the test, they fail spectacularly.
It’s hard to say, it was in a group of Brazilians. But it was striking, how they moved and had the exact same mannerisms as their darker co-nationals who weren’t of German (or Polish) descent.
The elites in the 5 eyes are Zio-Anglo. Hence it is still an Anglo empire.
Putin’s words are for internal opinion only. He knows very well that he won’t be heard in the West. But he needs to show Russians that he had replied in a based manner even though Biden was aggressive and stupid.
Biden calls Kamala Harris “President Harris “.
https://youtu.be/_lcBU5RTB8M
Congratulations America!
Combining two words is not an argument.
Maybe you haven’t noticed, but the United States foreign policy has been at the expense of the United Kingdom for over seventy years now. “Anglo supremacy” is not an apt phrase to describe this state of affairs. If we had Anglo supremacy, South Africa would not be in the state it is in now.
South Africa would not be in the state it is in now.
IMHO much of this has to do with the fact that they despised the Boers more than they did the Bantu.
Der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/An_AD_MISERICORDIAM_appeal_-_Lantern_-_13_March_1880.jpg/435px-An_AD_MISERICORDIAM_appeal_-_Lantern_-_13_March_1880.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boerehaat
Oh don’t worry about that, to me majority of world has drank Anglo kool aid, though I have understood that to you all people are innately equal or same inside? Weren’t you supporting Melanesian immigration to Australia or something little while ago? Aren’t Fijians Melanesian?
To me Westernisation is same as Anglo-Americanisation, before 1945 Germans and Italians were not part of the Western world, they became part of the West only after military defeat and occupation. The French were divided between liberal and traditional forces for most of the 19th century, but liberals finally got upper hand in the end of the 19th century and sealed their power with the secularisation law of 1905, by then Masons had total power over military and civil appointments. So gradually real Europe got Anglo-Americanised/Westernised and lost their original and native identities. Now the forces of evil have reached the borders of Holy Russia itself, but unlike Germany or France, Russia is protected by greater powers than they have knowledge of.
Oṃ tāre tuttāre ture svāhā
Erdogan was pretty devastated, and retired from politics for a while, briefly finding work as a confectioner and a semi-professional soccer player.
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-the-new-sultan
BASED.
The public face of the Anglo elite is becoming overtly diversified at least, in the British cabinet the two key power ministries are in the hands of British Indians, the prime minister is literally a ‘one man melting pot’, Biden is Irish, Harris is part Indian.
Looking at the British political commentary scene it’s observable that the rise of Wokeness has been very beneficial for globalists because pretty much the only available options are now the open borders, dismantle whiteness neo-Marxist woke vs. the colourblind ‘classical’ liberals; many of the most capable new spokespeople for the anti-woke side are now of recent Indian, African, Russian Jewish, Irish etc. descent.
Interesting, in the eyes of the Portuguese anti-liberal right, the post-1945 order in Europe (and the wider world) was mainly a joint US and Soviet construction. It is seen as marking the end of an independent Imperial Britain, and with it, the end of all of the European empires, and ultimately a whole tradition within Western politics.
Weren’t English traditionalists finally defeated in the Glorious Revolution of 1688? That’s when Whiggish or market oriented modernist forces gained power over one of the Great powers of Europe, the French had their revolution much later, and unlike Britons, they killed their most radical revolutionaries and established a great Pan-European empire, the French were so near to become the Latins or Macedonians of the New Era, an unifying ethnos of the European cultural region, they almost United whole Europe under their rule. Few seem to know that Napoleon thought himself as a successor of Roman Emperors and Charlemagne, he constantly made references about them and used imperial symbols of the past.
After all the French of the early 19th century were a land power, not a thassalocratic power of the seas like the English were, it was just natural that they quickly gravitated from liberal ideas to dreams of imperial grandeur, but after many, many losses, humiliations and defeats their natural character got twisted in the late 19th century and the perfidious Albion and it’s son America became the masters of the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderweg
“The term Sonderweg was first used by German conservatives in the imperial period, starting in the late 19th century as a source of pride at the “Golden Mean”[2] of governance that in their view had been attained by the German state, whose distinctiveness as an authoritarian state lay in taking the initiative in instituting social reforms, imposing them without waiting to be pressured by demands “from below”. This type of authoritarianism was seen to be avoiding both the autocracy of Imperial Russia and what they regarded as the weak, decadent and ineffective democratic governments of Britain and France.[3] The idea of Germany as a great Central European power, neither of the West nor of the East was to be a recurring feature of right-wing German thought right up to 1945.”
Indeed, the three greatest historical tragedies were the French Revolution, the defeat of the Central Powers in the First World War, and the Russian Revolution. Of course, history could have been even worse.
I would add that the Dutch were instrumental in that defeat. The Dutch themselves were strongly influenced by the Jewish financial interests. People often forget how important the Netherlands were in the inception of Capitalism and how judeophilic that system was since the very beginning.
Part of the explanation for this must be anti-communism ( why disproportionately more Hungarian or central European jews as director in place of Russians). Most of the main Hollywood film producers were Russian jewish ( ok plenty hungarian/german also), most of the famous Hollywood jewish actors were Russian Empire jew diaspora. Film scores – that clown Leonard Bernstein and Bernard Hermann were diaspora of Russian jews
Though the actors and producers have key part in artistic path of the film , the ultimate creative decision maker is the director – and with Russian jew being a synonym for Communist for some Americans , I think any Russian jew born after 1880 would automatically be suspected of being a communist……and they couldn’t allow the possibility of any communist-director propagating to Americans.
Hungarian jews were having a very high standard of living around the switchover in 19th to 19th centuries and likely to be much less suspected of Communist ideology.
So are we going to count urban liberal Dutch who disliked the Boers also as part of Anglo supremacy? Are international sanctions against Apartheid South Africa part of Anglo Supremacy too?
Since Bashibuzuk wants to emphasize Anglo elites, I will point out that the President of South Africa who oversaw the end of Apartheid was the Afrikaner F.W. de Klerk.
Did he really have a choice ?
It must depend on what definition of traditionalism and liberalism is being used, for example if James II’s ideal Catholic absolute monarchy is used as the criteria for anti-liberalism and traditionalism, Napoleon I would count as clearly liberal. By the late 1940s and 50s though, ancien-regime monarchy on the Louis XIV pattern was no longer being generally used as the criteria for determining this.
Karlin is wrong with his article claiming that Tsaris Russia was stronger than France. I have spoken abt this before but here is more evidence supporting the fact that I’m right and that Russia was a economically weak backwater before the Bolshevik’s came
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.rug.nl/ggdc/historicaldevelopment/maddison/publications/wp2.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwijy5bl3cHvAhWBB80KHVqUDgsQFjAAegQICBAC&usg=AOvVaw2FTiGEWATTCM7CHx0LkCc3
On par with saying that many Ukrainians are Slavicized Turks.
Open Thread 144, by Anatoly Karlin – The Unz Review
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